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David Shaw

Tom Coughlin

Mike Smith 

 

Those are the only current candidates we should be focusing on at the moment. The rest of those names people keep throwing around either have no head coaching experience or were terrible at it. Or, you'd have to give up a draft pick or two to trade for them. 

 

Shaw has a proven record at Stanford. He's learned from some of the best in the business like Dennis Green, Bill Walsh & Jim Harbaugh. He took over the reigns and continued to succeed and he runs a pro style offense. People sleep on him a lot as a candidate at the next level but I don't. He's been a positional coach for years in the NFL prior to his time at Stanford and he's just been around some really, really good football teams. 

 

Smith and Coughlin are the only other two candidates out there of recent memory that have had winning records at their last stints as head coaches. They have the history here already as well. So it just makes a lot of sense to bring one of them back here. 

So thus far we have definitely been linked to the following:

 

Tom Coughlin

Mike Smith

Josh McDaniels

Kyle Shanahan

 

Am I missing anyone so far?

Quote:David Shaw

Tom Coughlin

Mike Smith 

 

Those are the only current candidates we should be focusing on at the moment. The rest of those names people keep throwing around either have no head coaching experience or were terrible at it. Or, you'd have to give up a draft pick or two to trade for them. 

 

Shaw has a proven record at Stanford. He's learned from some of the best in the business like Dennis Green, Bill Walsh & Jim Harbaugh. He took over the reigns and continued to succeed and he runs a pro style offense. People sleep on him a lot as a candidate at the next level but I don't. He's been a positional coach for years in the NFL prior to his time at Stanford and he's just been around some really, really good football teams. 

 

Smith and Coughlin are the only other two candidates out there of recent memory that have had winning records at their last stints as head coaches. They have the history here already as well. So it just makes a lot of sense to bring one of them back here. 

David Shaw is definitely an intriguing candidate. 

I really like Matt Patricia.  I understand the past failures of BB lackeys, but McDaniels failed b/c his personality... not b/c of his Xs and Os. 

 

David needs to do his homework on Patricia, if he can be a leader of a team, I believe hes the best coach out there.  I'm tired of all 31 teams really have one set scheme and always sticking to it.  I'd like a coach who will change his scheme to fit his players and opponents.  Most candidates out there have had a lot of success because they had great players to work with.  NE defense is constantly getting rid of their better players and adjusting to the ones they have.  Again, the biggest question is how much is it Belichick?  I do think a lot of it is him, but I do think Patricia is a bright coach and deserves credit too for NEs defenses lately. 

Quote:David Shaw is definitely an intriguing candidate. 

 

 

I wouldn't hate that hire. I'd much rather have him than Mike Smith or Tom Coughlin.

Quote:David Shaw

Tom Coughlin

Mike Smith


Those are the only current candidates we should be focusing on at the moment. The rest of those names people keep throwing around either have no head coaching experience or were terrible at it. Or, you'd have to give up a draft pick or two to trade for them.


Shaw has a proven record at Stanford. He's learned from some of the best in the business like Dennis Green, Bill Walsh & Jim Harbaugh. He took over the reigns and continued to succeed and he runs a pro style offense. People sleep on him a lot as a candidate at the next level but I don't. He's been a positional coach for years in the NFL prior to his time at Stanford and he's just been around some really, really good football teams.


Smith and Coughlin are the only other two candidates out there of recent memory that have had winning records at their last stints as head coaches. They have the history here already as well. So it just makes a lot of sense to bring one of them back here.

Shaw is definitely promising but I am under the impression that Caldwell is not going to risk hiring a first time NFL head coach knowing his job is also on the line here.


Gus did too much losing to possibly repeat that.


Ownership likely knows the Jaguars need to hire someone with experience and at least a small history of success.


Shaw might wind up being really good for another team but I just don't see them making that hire here.


Right now my top 3 likely guys are Coughlin, Payton, and McDaniels.


I'm actually OK with any of the 3 as well, with Payton being my top pick out of the 3.

Mike Smith would be my choice, but he must get a strong offensive coordinator and quarterback coach. I'd initially be excited about T.C., but I just don't know about this one. The saying, "you can't come home" often comes true and his age is also a factor. I wonder if he'd consider a position as offensive coordinator/assistant head coach under Mike Smith. Coughlin always had a good offensive mind.

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Coughlin makes the most sense on many different levels. He should be the most pursued person IMO although his age does cause slight concern but we can't go through life worrying about that. His resume speaks for itself.

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 This probably will happen.   Yet,  when considering the Chargers being decimated by injuries the last 2 seasons and the stadium situation in San Diego,  it's hard to blame Mike McCoy for the Chargers finishing in last place in the AFC West in 2015 and 2016.

Quote:Coughlin makes the most sense on many different levels. He should be the most pursued person IMO although his age does cause slight concern but we can't go through life worrying about that. His resume speaks for itself.

 

   As long as Dave Caldwell and Tom Coughlin would be on the same page,  regarding realistic candidates,  I agree with you.

Quote: This probably will happen.   Yet,  when considering the Chargers being decimated by injuries the last 2 seasons and the stadium situation in San Diego,  it's hard to blame Mike McCoy for the Chargers finishing in last place in the AFC West in 2015 and 2016.

Bring in Coughlin or Mike Smith and make McCoy OC.

Quote:Coughlin football operations president and mentor to Kyle Shanahan would be the dream for me. 

 

Someone is going to have to explain this whole Football Operations President to me. To do what? To get a big salary and pontificate?

 

Coughlin has shown that he's not a General Manager. So what authority would he have? And why would a general manager want to work under such a system?

 

I assume some other teams have people under such titles, but is it just another name for GM?

Quote:Bring in Coughlin or Mike Smith and make McCoy OC.

 

 Mike McCoy would certainly be well worth considering in that role.   Being that the Chargers have played the Jaguars the last couple of seasons,   McCoy probably has a strong opinion of Blake Bortles one way or the other.  

Quote:David Shaw is definitely an intriguing candidate. 

 

Check out Peter King on SI's MMQB. King recently did a podcast with Shaw.

 

I haven't heard the podcast, but from the preview done by King it sounds like Shaw is very happy at Stanford. (Who wouldn't be.)

 

Shaw's not ruling out a return to the NFL in the future, but it doesn't sound imminent. He even mentions how money is not a determining factor.

Ya wanna change the culture and right the ship.  And bring in a hard nosed coach ya grab Norv Turner. 

Quote: Mike McCoy would certainly be well worth considering in that role.   Being that the Chargers have played the Jaguars the last couple of seasons,   McCoy probably has a strong opinion of Blake Bortles one way or the other.  

 

Speaking of chargers' coaches.... John Pagano and Ken Wisenhunt might be on a "HC interview short list" for those in the market as well. 

Quote:Speaking of chargers' coaches.... John Pagano and Ken Wisenhunt might be on a "HC interview short list" for those in the market as well. 

 

   In 2014,  Ken Whisenhunt was a hot HC candidate.   Though I can envision him getting an NFL HC Interview this time around,  I'm be shocked if he gets another NFL HC opportunity after the results that led to his firing in Tennessee.

 

  John Pagano is worth looking at from the standpoint that the Chargers Defense has looked very good at times.   Injuries have made his job extremely difficult.  

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<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;"><a class="bbc_url" href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Toub' title="External link">Dave Toub</a>, Special Teams Coach, Kansas City - This guy has grown on me these past few weeks but I love Offensive Linemen that turn to coaching and I like the success rates of Special Teams' coaches becoming Headers. See; Reid, Andy and Cowher, Bill. O line guys just seem to understand the game from a fundamental level and Special Teamers have to love the game.

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<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;"><a class="bbc_url" href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russ_Grimm' title="External link">Russ Grimm</a>, Offensive Line Coach, Tennessee - Although he'd need an extended shower replete with abrasive chemicals in order to get the Tennessee stink off of him, I've always liked the idea of Grimm as a Head Coach. He also fits Deacon's "former Offensive Linemen" profile as well.

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<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;"><a class="bbc_url" href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teryl_Austin' title="External link">Teryl Austin</a>, Defensive Coordinator, Detroit - Just look up anything D6 has stated about him. He seems to be the real deal. Also, he's gone to the Super Bowl as a coach three different times; with Seattle in '06, Arizona in '09 and Baltimore in '11.

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<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">I'd also like to add Les Miles as he always been a kind of favorite of mine.

If we hired McCoy, at least that would eliminate having to get blown out by him every year.


Seriously though, I think he's a decent coach.