Quote:Not trying to start an arguement, but where at in my post did i say he's one of the worst Qb's in the league?
Sorry my bad if you didn't.
Quote:I said his biggest problem is that he has the most balls batted down at the line of scrimmage and throws a lot of picks.
After looking up his numbers on pro football focus he's actually in the top 10 for performing well under pressure.
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according to NFL.com chad henne is a middle of the road Qb which is what his contract basically concurs with.
I would largely agree with this. He's not spectacular and has some limitations but can be productive given some support. I think he'll serve us well as a backup When We get our franchise guy next year.
I've said this before. But put Chad Henne or any NFL quarterback on a great team and good coach, they are making the playoffs. It's a simple game of numbers. Close to 40% of all NFL teams make the playoffs. On a bad or mediocre team, 4 TDs and 300 yards may win a game, but on a great team, a stat line of 1 TD 175 yards may win that same matchup. If his QB sucks, a good coach with a great team will take the ball out of the QBs hand and win another way.
We could have at least looked mediocre on offense with protection and having Blackmon all season. No running game hurt too. It was just annoying at the amount of batted/tipped passes.
What if pigs flew and cows did karate? Both of those are just as likely to happen.
Quote:Dolphin fans are laughing at this thread.
they finally got a respectable QB IMO. About time.
Well... anything is possible I suppose. However, it would be more likely that the rest of the team took us to the playoffs. I perceive Henne as being a mature leader, but he doesn't have a track record that would suggest that he has the physical tools himself to take a team to the playoffs. He isn't jughead, or eli, or brady or even near that caliber of quarterback. He is experienced though and he isn't getting paid premier quarterback pay. He could be a good mentor for a young hotshot quarterback to learn from for a year or two before being handed the reins...
Chad Henne could be our Alex Smith.
If we build the right team around him we can win despite his mediocre play.
And then our 2nd round draft pick (or 1st, or 3rd) comes in, in his second year and replaces him and makes us perennial contenders.
Quote:Chad Henne could be our Alex Smith.
If we build the right team around him we can win despite his mediocre play.
And then our 2nd round draft pick (or 1st, or 3rd) comes in, in his second year and replaces him and makes us perennial contenders.
The good thing is that we are going to be bringing in rookie QBs while Henne holds the fort down for the next year or 2.
Quote:Chad Henne could be our Alex Smith.
If we build the right team around him we can win despite his mediocre play.
And then our 2nd round draft pick (or 1st, or 3rd) comes in, in his second year and replaces him and makes us perennial contenders.
The only problem with this analogy is that Alex Smith is a much better QB than Henne
Quote:It would be cause of the team around him.
Who is that returning the kick in your signature video...?
Henne is not our QB. He will only hold it down until Dave & Gus draft there Franchise QB. I am not Hating on Henne that's there plan. Dave & Gus have a 3 year plan and Henne will not be here after the 3rd yr. When this team comes together and heading in the direction of Playoffs and Superbowls every year. Trust me it will not be Henne we will be cheering and routing for when that's happens. Now don't get me wrong, I will be cheering for whoever is our signal caller any yr the Jags suit up. I just know the reality. They are building from the ground up thru the draft and Henne will only play his small part of that building process.
Quote:The only problem with this analogy is that Alex Smith is a much better QB than Henne
He is... now.
Smith's first 5 years in the league he was terrible, because the niners were terrible. As soon as they built up a team around him, and he got some continuity he played better.
However, in his first real successful year with the 9ers, he still played much like a game manager. His play didn't warrant him keeping the job when Kap stepped in.
But I'll admit, he played well for the Chiefs and upped his game when the D started to fall apart with injuries.
Shame for him so many of his early years were wasted on an overall bad team with like 7 different OCs
I see what you are saying Kane but even with those first years added in Smith still has quite a few more TDs than INTs and has a winning record as a QB...Smith's first year of 1 TD and 11 INTs really drags him down...
Smith has thrown for more TDs and INTs 5 out of the 8 years he has played games and had the same 1 year...so only 2 times has he thrown for more INTs than TDs...that was his rookie year and a year in which he had 2 TDs and 4 INTs.
Henne has never thrown for more TDs than INTs.
Smith has led teams to the play offs and has a winning record as a starting QB...Henne has never led a team to the play offs nor won more than 7 games when he started the majority of the games and has a seriously losing record as a starting QB.
Now I am not saying Smith is good...but when comparing careers Smith is the better QB.
Also would you say that Henne or Smith had the "rougher" road during their first 5 or 6 years in the league...I would say Smith.
Do you honestly think that Henne could have led KC to the same record this year or SF to the same record in 2011 or started 7 - 1 in 2012? Because I don't even with all that talent around him.
Quote:I see what you are saying Kane but even with those first years added in Smith still has quite a few more TDs than INTs and has a winning record as a QB...Smith's first year of 1 TD and 11 INTs really drags him down...
Smith has thrown for more TDs and INTs 5 out of the 8 years he has played games and had the same 1 year...so only 2 times has he thrown for more INTs than TDs...that was his rookie year and a year in which he had 2 TDs and 4 INTs.
Henne has never thrown for more TDs than INTs.
Smith has led teams to the play offs and has a winning record as a starting QB...Henne has never led a team to the play offs nor won more than 7 games when he started the majority of the games and has a seriously losing record as a starting QB.
Now I am not saying Smith is good...but when comparing careers Smith is the better QB.
Also would you say that Henne or Smith had the "rougher" road during their first 5 or 6 years in the league...I would say Smith.
Do you honestly think that Henne could have led KC to the same record this year or SF to the same record in 2011 or started 7 - 1 in 2012? Because I don't even with all that talent around?
I don't think anyone can fairly answer that question. Alex Smith has played with a talented 49 and KC team. Henne has never been given the chance to play for a talented team. Henne is tough and will stand in the pocket and take a hit to make a play. I want to see what he has in him with a talented team and coming into the season as the starter. The big issue with Henne is he throws too many ints. Henne is simply a hot/cold QB. At times he looks good while other times you can't stand him. I do know certain HOF QB's like Farve made a career out of being a hot/cold QB. I am going to give the guy a shot and see what happens.
We won 4 games last year with a bunch of rookies, no names, and a first year head coach. With a good draft, this year I could see us realistically winning 7 or 8. He could surprise us and win 9, then playoffs. It's not impossible
Chad Henne hasn't equaled playoffs for either pro team he's played for. And I don't see that changing. He is who he is, which is to say a bad starting QB.
To this day, he has not had a single year in the NFL where he's thrown more TD's than INT's. He's not changing. And we won't get anywhere near the playoffs until he's not the QB, which I think will be corrected very soon.
Well to be fair, he's played for a couple of very bad teams. People give the QB to much credit when a team wins and to much blame when they lose. Chad Henne is a veteran who knows the game, has some physical limitations, and given some support can play reasonably well. That's not to say we'd be better served with him sitting on the bench but until something better is available, I'm happy with him as the starter. If the team is good enough in other areas he certainly won't prevent us from getting to the playoffs.
Quote:Chad Henne hasn't equaled playoffs for either pro team he's played for. And I don't see that changing. He is who he is, which is to say a bad starting QB.
To this day, he has not had a single year in the NFL where he's thrown more TD's than INT's. He's not changing. And we won't get anywhere near the playoffs until he's not the QB, which I think will be corrected very soon.
So you are blaming Henne for playing for a very bad Dolphins team and a terrible Jaguars one? I don't think he has been given a fair shot.
No. Sorry Henne is Dr. jeckyl Mr. hyde.