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Quote:Wouldn't want either.

Lol you can never have enough pass rushers dude, even if we draft 2 guys, I would still be happy with one of them, but Bennett is off the market now

Quote:Aaron Kampman for about 7 minutes.

Man I loved Kampman too. It's a shame he blew ACL again.

Quote:Lol you can never have enough pass rushers dude, even if we draft 2 guys, I would still be happy with one of them, but Bennett is off the market now

Would rather continue with the youth movement.

Quote:Would rather continue with the youth movement.

even young team like Seattle have vets on the roster like Cliff Avril, Bennett, Clemmons, and others, having a team full of guys 4 years or less not gonna win you anything 

Quote:Dang it. Michael Bennet signs 4 yr deal to stay in seattle.

 

Don't be disappointed. I think it was either Seattle or Chicago for him.

Quote:I wouldn't have minded to overpay for legit top flight pass rushing talent like Greg Hardy or even Orakpo, but I do mind overpaying for average guys like Bennett, M Johnson, and a few others that are left in FA. 

 

I'd rather just address pass rushers in the draft at this point. 

 

If you think Michael Johnson & Michael Bennett (he recently signed) are "average" DE's you are truly mistaken, Michael Johnson was dominant against the run last year and was amongst league leaders in QB pressures with 61, disruptive is production, and Michael Johnson has been truly disruptive in Cincinnatti over the past 2 years, he's one of the best DE's in football. You can't cherry pick stats as they don't always tell the story.

Quote:Clemons really ain't that good.

 

Hawk fan here. He very much is in the Pete Carroll/Gus Bradley System. Monster at the LEO in 2011 and 2012 before tearing his ACL in the playoffs against the Redskins.

Was not in the same form early in 2013 with the addition of Michael Bennett (Just re-signed with Seatte) and Cliff Avril. Showed great improvement toward old self in playoffs and SB.

 

He is very likely to be a cap casualty (9.6 cap number and 2.1 in dead money) following the re-signing of Bennett.

 

If Hawks cut him, expect the Jags to go after him.

Quote:If you think Michael Johnson & Michael Bennett (he recently signed) are "average" DE's you are truly mistaken, Michael Johnson was dominant against the run last year and was amongst league leaders in QB pressures with 61, disruptive is production, and Michael Johnson has been truly disruptive in Cincinnatti over the past 2 years, he's one of the best DE's in football. You can't cherry pick stats as they don't always tell the story.

Michael Johnson isn't even best De on Bengals. Carlos Dunlap and Dt Geno Atkins are beast.

Quote:Hawk fan here. He very much is in the Pete Carroll/Gus Bradley System. Monster at the LEO in 2011 and 2012 before tearing his ACL in the playoffs against the Redskins.

Was not in the same form early in 2013 with the addition of Michael Bennett (Just re-signed with Seatte) and Cliff Avril. Showed great improvement toward old self in playoffs and SB.

 

He is very likely to be a cap casualty (9.6 cap number and 2.1 in dead money) following the re-signing of Bennett.

 

If Hawks cut him, expect the Jags to go after him.

 

Would make alot of sense here.

The only elite LEO canidate is Micheal Johnson, but Im not sure Caldwell will want to compete with all the other teams who want him. If there is a player to "overspend" on though its him. Still young and he  can play LEO or SAM.

 

With no players to re-sign for big deals the only way to reach the 89% bench mark is through free agency.

Sign Schoffeld and Willie Young.

Pass rush instantly improved!

There's something fishy about this.   Babin is 33 years old and was scheduled to make $6 million this season.   It wouldn't seem like such a wise choice for him to void this contract on his own decision.   The team must have told him something.   What did they tell him?   That they don't need him now, since they have lined up a replacement in free agency?  

Quote:The only elite LEO canidate is Micheal Johnson, but Im not sure Caldwell will want to compete with all the other teams who want him. If there is a player to "overspend" on though its him. Still young and he  can play LEO or SAM.

 

With no players to re-sign for big deals the only way to reach the 89% bench mark is through free agency.

 

They don't need to reach 89% in any particular year.   It's a 4 year average, and the penalty for not reaching it is not that bad.  

Quote:There's something fishy about this.   Babin is 33 years old and was scheduled to make $6 million this season.   It wouldn't seem like such a wise choice for him to void this contract on his own decision.   The team must have told him something.   What did they tell him?   That they don't need him now, since they have lined up a replacement in free agency?  

They most likely told him to adjust his contract or hit the road, Jack.

Quote:There's something fishy about this. Babin is 33 years old and was scheduled to make $6 million this season. It wouldn't seem like such a wise choice for him to void this contract on his own decision. The team must have told him something. What did they tell him? That they don't need him now, since they have lined up a replacement in free agency?

Considering they haven't been able to talk to pending FAs I doubt they would be convinced enough that they can sign the guy they want, thus having something to do with the decision to let Babin go.

Quote:They most likely told him to adjust his contract or hit the road, Jack.

I hope they said "hit the road Jack" when they fired Del Rio

Quote:Considering they haven't been able to talk to pending FAs I doubt they would be convinced enough that they can sign the guy they want, thus having something to do with the decision to let Babin go.

I think they were allowed to start talking to guys on the 8th, no?

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March 8-11 Clubs are permitted to contact, and enter into contract negotiations with, the certified agents of players who will become Unrestricted Free Agents upon the expiration of their 2013 Player Contracts at 4 p.m. ET on March 11. However, a contract cannot be executed with a new club until 4 p.m. ET on March 11.

 

NFL.com ^

Quote:Considering they haven't been able to talk to pending FAs I doubt they would be convinced enough that they can sign the guy they want, thus having something to do with the decision to let Babin go.

They were allowed to contact at noon today but I doubt that had a role in Babin leaving.

Quote:I think they were allowed to start talking to guys on the 8th, no?

NFL.com ^

I don't believe they would be in a position to guarantee a player would sign with Jacksonville.

Quote:I don't believe they would be in a position to guarantee a player would sign with Jacksonville.

Not saying one has to do with the other - only that they have likely been negotiating with at least one agent representing a FA DE.