Additional undisclosed Data sources have revealed that the aircraft flight terminated in the South China Sea.
There are other Satellite links between the plane and ground stations that confirm the aircraft and all on board are lost.
It may be months or years before the data is in the open. I hope the black boxes are recovered.
What a tragic loss
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Quote:Massive electronic failure or pilot planned or take over.
Did not have fuel to make it to Pakistan or some terrorist place, nor would it made it across India without detection.
As DF mentioned...it took 2 years to get the black box on Air France...and they knew where it went down ( mysteriously at the time, but alleged determination was mechanical failure)
It is however one the most intriguing flight mysteries of all time.
But some speculations have proved we live in a world where many have dropped waaaay to much acid.
I haven't really commented on this because I'm simply perplexed by what happened. I don't buy a massive electronics failure. Far too many redundant systems on board those aircraft, and the fact that not a single distress call was made just plain makes no sense. DF can attest to this, but if every piece of communication equipment was lost on the flight deck, they could have manually dropped the RAT and established communications from one of the other backups located on the plane. The RAT would not have been affected by electronics failures on the flight deck. Plus, the ACARS system was operational. ACARS is not only used to relay automated information, but is also used to send text type messages. I've used ACARS extensively. There's a website where if you have a proper login and password, you can send a text to any flight crew on any aircraft in the air worldwide. I could do it right now, as I have those credentials.
I won't even pretend to know what happened to that plane, but the only thing I can't eliminate personally is a deliberate action, either by a crew member, or someone else aboard that flight. I'm sticking with that until I read something that disproves it.
Quote:I haven't really commented on this because I'm simply perplexed by what happened. I don't buy a massive electronics failure. Far too many redundant systems on board those aircraft, and the fact that not a single distress call was made just plain makes no sense. DF can attest to this, but if every piece of communication equipment was lost on the flight deck, they could have manually dropped the RAT and established communications from one of the other backups located on the plane. The RAT would not have been affected by electronics failures on the flight deck. Plus, the ACARS system was operational. ACARS is not only used to relay automated information, but is also used to send text type messages. I've used ACARS extensively. There's a website where if you have a proper login and password, you can send a text to any flight crew on any aircraft in the air worldwide. I could do it right now, as I have those credentials.
I won't even pretend to know what happened to that plane, but the only thing I can't eliminate personally is a deliberate action, either by a crew member, or someone else aboard that flight. I'm sticking with that until I read something that disproves it.
Of them all, this is the theory that's made the most sense to me.
http://www.wired.com/autopia/2014/03/mh3...ical-fire/
Blown tire catches fire on takeoff, fire spreads - taking out the electronics systems and flooding the entire plane with smoke (especially dangerous with the cargo they were carrying.) Pilots tried their best without having their nav system (and while they were still conscious before being overtaken with smoke.) Like with Payne Stewart, the plane may have ended up being a hearse that eventually ran out of fuel.
Quote:Of them all, this is the theory that's made the most sense to me.
http://www.wired.com/autopia/2014/03/mh3...ical-fire/
Blown tire catches fire on takeoff, fire spreads - taking out the electronics systems and flooding the entire plane with smoke (especially dangerous with the cargo they were carrying.) Pilots tried their best without having their nav system (and while they were still conscious before being overtaken with smoke.) Like with Payne Stewart, the plane may have ended up being a hearse that eventually ran out of fuel.
They still could have made a distress call via ACARS, which was operational. They have oxygen, and backup portable oxygen, so I still don't buy into that one either. Plus, blown tires when taking off always leave debris on the runway or the general area of the runway. None was found, and you can rest assured, they looked. Air France 4590 is a perfect example of such a thing. If you look at what transpired there, you would see a lot of things that should have happened but didn't with the Malaysian plane.
Quote:Of them all, this is the theory that's made the most sense to me.
http://www.wired.com/autopia/2014/03/mh3...ical-fire/
Blown tire catches fire on takeoff, fire spreads - taking out the electronics systems and flooding the entire plane with smoke (especially dangerous with the cargo they were carrying.) Pilots tried their best without having their nav system (and while they were still conscious before being overtaken with smoke.) Like with Payne Stewart, the plane may have ended up being a hearse that eventually ran out of fuel.
I agree, this seems to be the most plausible scenario presented so far.
Imagine an interior scene of the plane flying for hours with over 240 dead souls on board, the sounds of the engines droning ceaselessly as the bodies gently sway and jostle in unison to the movements of the pilot-less aircraft reacting to turbulence and air currents.
Dang...
Quote:I agree, this seems to be the most plausible scenario presented so far.
Imagine an interior scene of the plane flying for hours with over 240 dead souls on board, the sounds of the engines droning ceaselessly as the bodies gently sway and jostle in unison to the movements of the pilot-less aircraft reacting to turbulence and air currents.
Dang...
That was more than a little bit creepy.
Quote:They still could have made a distress call via ACARS, which was operational. They have oxygen, and backup portable oxygen, so I still don't buy into that one either. Plus, blown tires when taking off always leave debris on the runway or the general area of the runway. None was found, and you can rest assured, they looked. Air France 4590 is a perfect example of such a thing. If you look at what transpired there, you would see a lot of things that should have happened but didn't with the Malaysian plane.
Pumping oxygen into a fire is a bad idea. And a slow puncture could have preventing debris, though it wouldn't lead to an electrical fault.
Quote:I agree, this seems to be the most plausible scenario presented so far.
Imagine an interior scene of the plane flying for hours with over 240 dead souls on board, the sounds of the engines droning ceaselessly as the bodies gently sway and jostle in unison to the movements of the pilot-less aircraft reacting to turbulence and air currents.
Dang...
Technically souls can't be dead.
Quote:Pumping oxygen into a fire is a bad idea. And a slow puncture could have preventing debris, though it wouldn't lead to an electrical fault.
Technically souls can't be dead.
I was referring to the lungs of the flight crew when I referenced the oxygen.
Plus, a slow leak/puncture would be a non-event, especially in flight. It may cause minor complications during landing, but each main bogey has six wheels on a 777. Losing one of 12 tires on the mains wouldn't scare too many pilots. It may get their attention, but wouldn't scare them one bit.
A pretty good description and visual of a 777 RAT.
http://youtu.be/FfB2EP71hqY
Edit: You have to go to the youtube page for the description.
Quote:Technically souls can't be dead.
Except yours.
Quote:Except yours.
I don't have a soul.
Plane found. Passengers on the soul train to the hereafter
Quote:Plane found. Passengers on the soul train to the hereafter
Did they actually find it...or are they saying they are sure the plane went into the ocean?
Quote:Did they actually find it...or are they saying they are sure the plane went into the ocean?
That's what I was wondering too. All I heard was that they are just acknowledging that it is in the ocean and everyone is dead. All I heard was "with the latest data..."
There is no evidence to confirm what the Malaysian Authorities are now saying. Until something physical is located to back up their claim, it's not a certainty. I am certainly not signing off on that explanation. Give me a piece of wreckage, or at least a definitive photo of it, and I may start believing it.
Quote:There is no evidence to confirm what the Malaysian Authorities are now saying. Until something physical is located to back up their claim, it's not a certainty. I am certainly not signing off on that explanation. Give me a piece of wreckage, or at least a definitive photo of it, and I may start believing it.
Yeah...kinda feels like "nothing to see here...move along".
Hard to tell where that 777-200 is, it could be anywhere. But something that big shouldn't have just vanished in to thin air. If anything, the Black Box has a transponder on it and they should be able to pick up the signal.
Quote:Hard to tell where that 777-200 is, it could be anywhere. But something that big shouldn't have just vanished in to thin air. If anything, the Black Box has a transponder on it and they should be able to pick up the signal.
With all the satellites and radar and just plain old spying that goes on over in that part of the world, you'd think they would have some sort of idea where the darn plane went! :yes:
I'd like to see the ACTUAL radar screen recording, NOT the animation that they published. Just to see if there was an unexplained "plume" (from a massive explosion) on the screen
Quote:I'd like to see the ACTUAL radar screen recording, NOT the animation that they published. Just to see if there was an unexplained "plume" (from a massive explosion) on the screen
You wouldn't. That's not how radar works, unfortunately.