Lost in the argument about the importance of a second black starting quarterback winning the Super Bowl is this fact: For the first time in NFL history a deaf player had a chance to win it. His name is Derrick Coleman and he wears #40. Now, the first deaf offensive player in NFL history is getting a Super Bowl ring. Congratulations, Derrick.
This is not the guy who waited until the third round to get picked because he is short. This is the guy who was not even drafted because he can't hear, got cut after three preseason games, and went from one practice squad to another before finally being put on Seattle's active roster. That is impressive by itself but even more so for a guy who needed an MRI to gain clearance to play football because he is legally deaf.
I don't understand why nobody else seems to care about this. If you don't think this is a major accomplishment worthy of praise, something is wrong with you.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2013/sto...ck-coleman
Really?
Edit: I'm leaving my original response. But I will add this. I know it may mean a lot to you. That's great that it does. If you can relate and use it as inspiration that is even better. But, do we really need a thread about this? We didn't need the Russell Wilson one. Congrats to both for their achievements. But I don't feel they need special accolades for being partially black and deaf. Don't fuel the hatred.
Smh....... The dead zone has started people....
Jaggy, yes I did need a new thread about this because when I talked about it in the Russell Wilson one, everybody ignored me.
Quote:Really?
Edit: I'm leaving my original response. But I will add this. I know it may mean a lot to you. That's great that it does. If you can relate and use it as inspiration that is even better. But, do we really need a thread about this? We didn't need the Russell Wilson one. Congrats to both for their achievements. But I don't feel they need special accolades for being partially black and deaf. Don't fuel the hatred.
I"m kinda confused as to why you don't think this is an awesome accomplishment. You know how hard it was to even get picked up on a team for him and you're acting like it was a small accomplishment. There's people who have all of their senses in tact and still don't' make the team. Furthermore the fact that he's a fullback is even more so an accomplishment. It's not like you're on defense and just watch the ball get snapped as your que, He's behind the Qb and they can't give any ques, so if something is blocking his view if he's not instantly off the ball he's already behind a step. I have no restrictions but I think it's a D bag move to say that it isn't special or try to demean it in any way. Think about all of the children and teenagers that are trying that have his same circumstances. This now gives them living proof that if they work hard and stick with it they can accomplish their dream if it's to play a professional sport.
I think that's pretty awesome for the guy. Its a feel good story. If I had knowen I would've posted it myself.
Quote:Jaggy, yes I did need a new thread about this because when I talked about it in the Russell Wilson one, everybody ignored me.
I did not ignore you, I acknowledged Coleman's achievement as well.
I even posted a link to his story for those who may not have known his situation.
Nevertheless, thanks for the thread.
Quote:I"m kinda confused as to why you don't think this is an awesome accomplishment. You know how hard it was to even get picked up on a team for him and you're acting like it was a small accomplishment. There's people who have all of their senses in tact and still don't' make the team. Furthermore the fact that he's a fullback is even more so an accomplishment. It's not like you're on defense and just watch the ball get snapped as your que, He's behind the Qb and they can't give any ques, so if something is blocking his view if he's not instantly off the ball he's already behind a step. I have no restrictions but I think it's a D bag move to say that it isn't special or try to demean it in any way. Think about all of the children and teenagers that are trying that have his same circumstances. This now gives them living proof that if they work hard and stick with it they can accomplish their dream if it's to play a professional sport.
Agree.
This is inspiration to those both adults and kids that even if they are hearing impaired can still overcome the everyday obstacles they face.
Quote:I"m kinda confused as to why you don't think this is an awesome accomplishment. You know how hard it was to even get picked up on a team for him and you're acting like it was a small accomplishment. There's people who have all of their senses in tact and still don't' make the team. Furthermore the fact that he's a fullback is even more so an accomplishment. It's not like you're on defense and just watch the ball get snapped as your que, He's behind the Qb and they can't give any ques, so if something is blocking his view if he's not instantly off the ball he's already behind a step. I have no restrictions but I think it's a D bag move to say that it isn't special or try to demean it in any way. Think about all of the children and teenagers that are trying that have his same circumstances. This now gives them living proof that if they work hard and stick with it they can accomplish their dream if it's to play a professional sport.
Hard work and dedication will get just about achieve whatever anyone is working for. To be a professional football player you need to work hard and keep at it no matter what. Doesn't matter wether your deaf or not. It can happen and this man proved it. You said it yourself. You want to label me a d bag. I'm sorry you feel that way. I just feel anyone can accomplish their dreams.
Quote:Lost in the argument about the importance of a second black starting quarterback winning the Super Bowl is this fact: For the first time in NFL history a deaf player had a chance to win it. His name is Derrick Coleman and he wears #40. Now, the first deaf offensive player in NFL history is getting a Super Bowl ring. Congratulations, Derrick.
This is not the guy who waited until the third round to get picked because he is short. This is the guy who was not even drafted because he can't hear, got cut after three preseason games, and went from one practice squad to another before finally being put on Seattle's active roster. That is impressive by itself but even more so for a guy who needed an MRI to gain clearance to play football because he is legally deaf.
I don't understand why nobody else seems to care about this. If you don't think this is a major accomplishment worthy of praise, something is wrong with you.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2013/sto...ck-coleman
Maybe something is wrong with YOU. Are you some kind of power and control freak or something? Who the hell do you think you are to sit here and dictate to us what we should be interested in. Your level of creepiness is starting to reach epic levels.
Quote:Jaggy, yes I did need a new thread about this because when I talked about it in the Russell Wilson one, everybody ignored me.
Maybe people ignore you because you're a real turn off to a whole lot of people. You're an absolute [BLEEP] to a lot of people. I know you have a syndrome which limits your social behaviors, but all that aside, if people don't respond the way you want them to, you act like a 2 year old who just had their toy taken away. You're on some kind of freaky power trip about how people should act toward you and on this board in general. You think you should start every important thread. (Personally, I don't give a flying [BLEEP] about who starts a thread, but your incessant whining about it makes it really hard to ignore.) Just like this very thread for instance. There is already an existing thread about this very thing which you participated heavily in.
http://jungle.jaguars.com/index.php?/top...k-is-deaf/
But I guess you had to make YOUR thread about it so you can tell all of us how we're supposed to think and feel. It's beyond creepy.
I am truly sorry about your affliction, but you should seriously consider if you can handle this kind of socialization. As far as this kind of thing is concerned, you seriously need to seek help. You don't handle it well at all.
Quote:Maybe something is wrong with YOU. Are you some kind of power and control freak or something? Who the hell do you think you are to sit here and dictate to us what we should be interested in. Your level of creepiness is starting to reach epic levels.
Maybe people ignore you because you're a real turn off to a whole lot of people. You're an absolute [BLEEP] to a lot of people. I know you have a syndrome which limits your social behaviors, but all that aside, if people don't respond the way you want them to, you act like a 2 year old who just had their toy taken away. You're on some kind of freaky power trip about how people should act toward you and on this board in general. You think you should start every important thread. (Personally, I don't give a flying [BAD WORD REMOVED] about who starts a thread, but your incessant whining about it makes it really hard to ignore.) Just like this very thread for instance. There is already an existing thread about this very thing which you participated heavily in.
<a class="bbc_url" href='http://jungle.jaguars.com/index.php?/topic/2644-seahawks-fullback-is-deaf/'>http://jungle.jaguars.com/index.php?/topic/2644-seahawks-fullback-is-deaf/</a>
But I guess you had to make YOUR thread about it so you can tell all of us how we're supposed to think and feel. It's beyond creepy.
I am truly sorry about your affliction, but you should seriously consider if you can handle this kind of socialization. As far as this kind of thing is concerned, you seriously need to seek help. You don't handle it well at all.
Wow, I didn't even realize another thread had already been created on Coleman.
A lot of what you are saying is coming full circle.
Quote:This is inspiration to those both adults and kids that even if they are hearing impaired can still overcome the everyday obstacles they face.
Definitely. It also is a self-esteem helper, especially for kids who get picked on because of their hearing aids.
That is why he starred in a Duracell commercial - to show everybody you can prove people wrong and do what you want to do even if you have a handicap.
always nice for someone to overcome a disability. congratulations to Mr. Coleman.
Quote:Always nice for someone to overcome a disability. Congratulations to Mr. Coleman.
Yes it is. The fact Coleman plays
behind the quarterback makes it even more impressive. It amazes me that he does not even think of it as a disability.
Really cool. Congrats to him, Wonder if we will see a story on him on NFL Network or something, I'd watch it.
Quote:Really cool. Congrats to him, Wonder if we will see a story on him on NFL Network or something. I'd watch it.
I think he should be on A Football Life. The link I posted is for the whole story from losing hearing in his left ear to winning the NFC Championship. Ironically the reason he started playing football is the reason he did not get drafted. His mom got the idea after mean kids attacked him in a park and took his hearing aids out.
I dont see it as a big of an accomplishment as you keep trying to make it be, and its probably the same for most since "no one is making a big deal about it." He wears hearing aids and CAN hear, so its not like hes 100% deaf. He said "10 being normal hearing, im a 6,7, or 8 depending on the day." Congratulations on overcoming an obstacle and winning the superbowl.
Quote:I dont see it as a big of an accomplishment as you keep trying to make it be, and its probably the same for most since "no one is making a big deal about it." He wears hearing aids and CAN hear, so its not like hes 100% deaf. He said "10 being normal hearing, im a 6,7, or 8 depending on the day." Congratulations on overcoming an obstacle and winning the superbowl.
A deaf person who wears hearing aids is still deaf. That is not my opinion. That is a scientifically proven fact and how Derrick Coleman identifies himself.
"It's anchorMAN not anchorLADY, and that is a scientific fact!"
Quote:"It's anchorMAN not anchorLADY, and that is a scientific fact!"
What are you talking about?