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Quote:Jax should try to add the top scout that was fired....lets face it, the Texans have drafted well, their roster isn't the main issue. 
 

 

Keep in mind though that the top scout was a Pro Scout, not a College scout.   Whle I have no idea at all what the scout's pro personnel recommendations were,  the Texans free agent signings have been a mixed bag.
Quote:Only thing we lose is the opportunity to trade for leftwich minus the wind up
 

These comments are hilarious. 

 

Its as if none of these people have seen Mallett play at all and are going on word of message boards...

 

Mallett's lack of mobility was highly overstated. 

Quote:These comments are hilarious.


Its as if none of these people have seen Mallett play at all and are going on word of message boards...


Nahh.
Quote:Keep in mind though that the top scout was a Pro Scout, not a College scout.   Whle I have no idea at all what the scout's pro personnel recommendations were,  the Texans free agent signings have been a mixed bag.
 

oh, in reading some of the comments those people seemed to think it was a college scout that was let go in addition to the pro personnel guy. 
Quote:The above is [BLEEP]....what amongst Ryan Mallett's college career footage, suggests he'll be that bad as a starter in the pro's?? :wacko:

 

Thats nothing but blind wishful thinking. 

 

 

Yes, and as said, among those first 6 you mentioned, few thought they were any good to begin with. I know I never thought those 6 were anything worth trading for. Thats why I mentioned QB like Brunell, Hasselbeck, et al, they were seen by me as worth it, as is Mallett. 
I see your point, but I am not sure that the rest of us were/are able to predict the success or failures of said QBs with the same aptness as you were/are.  I know that there were at least a handful of GMs that were wrong.  Mallet might end up being good (and according to your track record it sounds like he will) but I still think there is as good a chance that he doesn't pan out, like a lot of backups before him.

Quote:oh, in reading some of the comments those people seemed to think it was a college scout that was let go in addition to the pro personnel guy. 
 

 

According to the Texans Official Website,  Kevin Murphy is listed as a Pro Scout.   Some of the people participating in the comment section apparently misread the article or made an incorrect assumption.   

 

Being that Murphy was fired,  his name probably won't be listed on the following page much longer.  But for now,   he's listed as a Pro Scout:

 

http://www.houstontexans.com/team/front-office.html
Mallet has questionable decision making and was a risk taker in college. recipe for being a turnover machine.
Quote:These comments are hilarious. 

 

Its as if none of these people have seen Mallett play at all and are going on word of message boards...

 

Mallett's lack of mobility was highly overstated. 
 

 

Ryan Mallett has only thrown 4 passes in the regular season in his first 3 seasons combined,  with one being intercepted.  Combining this with Ryan Mallett lasting to the 3rd Round of the 2011 Draft,  it's more than understandable why people would be skeptical.   
Quote:Ryan Mallett has only thrown 4 passes in the regular season in his first 3 seasons combined,  with one being intercepted.  Combining this with Ryan Mallett lasting to the 3rd Round of the 2011 Draft,  it's more than understandable why people would be skeptical.   
 

I'm speaking about him in college. 
Quote:Mallet has questionable decision making and was a risk taker in college. recipe for being a turnover machine.
 

Yep, another one afraid of a non game manager QB. I guess game manager type QB is all we're used to around here...

Quote:I'm speaking about him in college. 
 

 

Why do you think Ryan Mallett lasted to pick # 74 in Round 3?   

 

Unlike Russell Wilson,  who went in a similar spot of the draft a year later,  Mallett had the size that many teams look for.  
Quote:Yep, another one afraid of a non game manager QB. I guess game manager type QB is all we're used to around here...
 

Nice strawman.  I know what I want in a QB.  Mallet hasn't proven squat.. not even in the NFL pre-season.  He's got a good arm and can throw the ball pretty well, but he's also been known for horrible decision making in college.  Why you would trade a 2nd or 3rd for a guy that has 1 year left on his contract with that resume is absolutely hilarious.
Quote:Why do you think Ryan Mallett lasted to pick # 74 in Round 3?   

 

Unlike Russell Wilson,  who went in a similar spot of the draft a year later,  Mallett had the size that many teams look for.  
 

He lacked the decision making, and also had some red flags about his character IIRC...
Quote:Why do you think Ryan Mallett lasted to pick # 74 in Round 3?   

 

Unlike Russell Wilson,  who went in a similar spot of the draft a year later,  Mallett had the size that many teams look for.  
 

I know why....off field/ character concerns/ rumors of drug use. 

Quote:He lacked the decision making, and also had some red flags about his character IIRC...
 

 

This is a major part of what I recall why Ryan Mallett lasted.  Considering that there was a run on QB's earlier in that draft,   it's safe to assume that many teams had major doubts about Mallett.
Quote:This is a major part of what I recall why Ryan Mallett lasted.  Considering that there was a run on QB's earlier in that draft,   it's safe to assume that many teams had major doubts about Mallett.
 

Yeah, but it was largely the off field crap. Talent was never the issue. 
Quote:I know why....off field/ character concerns/ rumors of drug use. 
 

With the demand for starting caliber of QB's in the NFL being noticeably greater than the supply,  at least one team would have taken a chance on Ryan Mallett in the first 2 Rounds of the draft if they thought that he had the reliability,  work ethic,  and leadership combo necessary to succeed as a starter in the league. 

 

W/o having a much greater body of NFL work,  how can a team give up a high 2nd Round pick for a player that is basically an unknown on the NFL regular season level?
Quote:Yeah, but it was largely the off field crap. Talent was never the issue. 
 

If a QB isn't responsible and dependable enough off the field,  how can he be trusted over the course of a long season?
He also had a pathetic workout....

 

I just looked it up.  He ran a 5.3 forty and had a 24" vertical, which is pretty laughable.  That's slower than pretty much most offensive lineman too.

 

He can basically throw lasers with his arm.  

 

When pressured, he made bad throws/bad decisions.

 

He doesn't have the athletic ability to evade pressures. Combine that with his character concerns and there's why he lasted to the third round.

Quote:If a QB isn't responsible and dependable enough off the field,  how can he be trusted over the course of a long season?
 

Have we heard a peep of any off field crap since he's been a Patriot?
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