im an fsu fan and have supported this team though the last crappy decade and im stoked we just won the glass ball but......we got our butt(would like to use a better word) kicked... both sides of the ball.... auburn shut down jameis and we had no answer for mason or that middle of the road qb,... dont get me wrong, im stoked we won.... but.... for some reason, i feel like we got our butt kicked.
Auburn won the Time of Possession battle, the yardage was slightly in Auburn's favor also. The turnover ratio was 1-1, and FSU was actually penalized more than Auburn.
FSU was also an atrocious 2-12 on third down compared to Auburn that was 10-18.
FSU won the game through special teams. Their kicker was better than Auburn's, and they made plays in the return game.
FSU was dominated in the first half, but I think they performed very well in the second. Nothing to complain about, they finished a 14-0 championship season with a Heisman QB. That's a dream come true season and it's nothing to look down on.
The better team lost tonight. Trust me. Huge Auburn hater but it seemed like FSU just lucked out. I liked Jameis but after tonight I could careless if anyone tanked for him now.
Quote:The better team lost tonight. Trust me. Huge Auburn hater but it seemed like FSU just lucked out. I liked Jameis but after tonight I could careless if anyone tanked for him now.
Jameis Winston solidified his status as an elite quarterback. His performance in the face of adversity was all-time great for any level of play.
The greatest players relish the opportunity to have the ball in their hands when the stakes are high and the job seems impossible. Greatness is determined by the results of facing adversity. When the requiem sounded for Florida State, Jameis took command and guided his team to victory.
As a quarterback, he's right up there with the very best to have played the game.
Former Jacksonville Jaguars CB and current NFL Media analyst, Bucky Brooks, said it best....
The mark of a great player isn't how well he performs when things are going well, but the championship traits that he displays when he doesn't have his A-game. While most focus on physical characteristics when evaluating players, it is the grit, determination and leadership skills that an elite player shows in critical moments that typically translates to success at the next level.
After watching Jameis Winston lead Florida State to the BCS national championship despite enduring one of the worst performances of his brief career, I believe the Heisman Trophy winner is not only the top player in college football, but he is destined to be a championship quarterback at the next level.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000...cs-triumph
Jameis was far from impressive tonight. Auburn sent 7 guys several times and Jameis was unable to find the open man. I'm honestly shocked that FSU didn't attempt more screens than they did.
A few good plays by his surrounding cast does little to further his "elite" status. He looked slow and undeserving of the Heisman. Dont quote me but his performance against his best competition all year did little to move him past a McCarron in college football. A few momentum shifts are all that put him in position to win. I was very afraid that he would be the next elite QB in the NFL but he looked very average in the face of pressure and while he scrambled decently, he looked very slow and awkward. Will be nothing more than an average QB. Im awaiting the fallout and flame of incoming comments but against a "mediocre" defense, I was very unimpressed. In terms of numbers my vote for best college player still goes to Manziel
Quote:Jameis was far from impressive tonight. Auburn sent 7 guys several times and Jameis was unable to find the open man. I'm honestly shocked that FSU didn't attempt more screens than they did.
You might want to read the Brooks article as it pulls perspective on the national championship night for Jameis Winston.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000...cs-triumph
The advent of the bubble screen and various pick-and-stick routes makes it easy for the quarterback to get the ball out of his hands before the pocket collapses. Florida State is one of the few teams on the college landscape that doesn't employ these quick-hit routes,
Quote:A few good plays by his surrounding cast does little to further his "elite" status. He looked slow and undeserving of the Heisman. Dont quote me but his performance against his best competition all year did little to move him past a McCarron in college football. A few momentum shifts are all that put him in position to win. I was very afraid that he would be the next elite QB in the NFL but he looked very average in the face of pressure and while he scrambled decently, he looked very slow and awkward. Will be nothing more than an average QB. Im awaiting the fallout and flame of incoming comments but against a "mediocre" defense, I was very unimpressed. In terms of numbers my vote for best college player still goes to Manziel
Jameis solidified his elite status.
If a quarterback is only great when he's good, no quarterback would be great.
Quote:You might want to read the Brooks article as it pulls perspective on the national championship night for Jameis Winston.
<a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000310272/article/jameis-winston-displays-it-factor-in-dramatic-bcs-triumph'>http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000310272/article/jameis-winston-displays-it-factor-in-dramatic-bcs-triumph</a>
The advent of the bubble screen and various pick-and-stick routes makes it easy for the quarterback to get the ball out of his hands before the pocket collapses. Florida State is one of the few teams on the college landscape that doesn't employ these quick-hit routes,
That's silly. I know they threw at least one, probably two but it should've been far more with how much Auburn was blitzing. Either way five receivers vs. four in coverage and Jameis did not make them pay. Special teams won the game. That fake punt lead to a TD drive, that return for a TD, and that missed FG by Auburn. FSU did not need Jameis to win tonight.
Quote:That's silly. I know they threw at least one, probably two but it should've been far more with how much Auburn was blitzing. Either way five receivers vs. four in coverage and Jameis did not make them pay. Special teams won the game. That fake punt lead to a TD drive, that return for a TD, and that missed FG by Auburn. FSU did not need Jameis to win tonight.
Winston led the game-winning drive. I guess the entire sports world is warped and you are correct?
Kirk Herbstreit doesn't take kindly to your type.
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Jameis was holding his team back tonight. Jimbo was nervous even putting the ball and the game in his hands. Impressive as a freshman, but if he wishes to go first overall he'll have to improve. His lack of experience was on full display tonight
Winston performed the best when he was needed most.
You guys are so used to style points, yet you complain when Winston/FSU wins the game with a style that resulted in certainly the most exciting BCS title game since Texas v. USC, if not the most exciting championship game in the BCS era.
Not every game is going to result in a blowout.
Quote:Jameis Winston solidified his status as an elite quarterback. His performance in the face of adversity was all-time great for any level of play.
The greatest players relish the opportunity to have the ball in their hands when the stakes are high and the job seems impossible. Greatness is determined by the results of facing adversity. When the requiem sounded for Florida State, Jameis took command and guided his team to victory.
As a quarterback, he's right up there with the very best to have played the game.
Former Jacksonville Jaguars CB and current NFL Media analyst, Bucky Brooks, said it best....
The mark of a great player isn't how well he performs when things are going well, but the championship traits that he displays when he doesn't have his A-game. While most focus on physical characteristics when evaluating players, it is the grit, determination and leadership skills that an elite player shows in critical moments that typically translates to success at the next level.
After watching Jameis Winston lead Florida State to the BCS national championship despite enduring one of the worst performances of his brief career, I believe the Heisman Trophy winner is not only the top player in college football, but he is destined to be a championship quarterback at the next level.
<a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000310272/article/jameis-winston-displays-it-factor-in-dramatic-bcs-triumph'>http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000310272/article/jameis-winston-displays-it-factor-in-dramatic-bcs-triumph</a>
You can get off your knees now.
Quote:Winston performed the best when he was needed most.
You guys are so used to style points, yet you complain when Winston/FSU wins the game with a style that resulted in certainly the most exciting BCS title game since Texas v. USC, if not the most exciting championship game in the BCS era.
Not every game is going to result in a blowout.
A blowout wasn't neccessary, he just flat out looked horrible most of the game. He was wildly inaccurate, couldn't find the open man, locked onto guys, couldn't read the blitzes. He was just plain ineffective. FSU won in spite of him. He definitely needs another year.
Winston did well for a redshirt freshman playing in a national championship game. He was definitely off but came through in the end.
I thought his WR and Oline let Winston down more then anything. I saw several times he hit his guy on the numbers and they just dropped it. As for the Oline they might as well have not even suited up, under pressure the entire game.
Quote:A blowout wasn't neccessary, he just flat out looked horrible most of the game. He was wildly inaccurate, couldn't find the open man, locked onto guys, couldn't read the blitzes. He was just plain ineffective. FSU won in spite of him. He definitely needs another year.
Did you see the pressure Auburn put on him?
Yes, he was off the first half.
The Auburn defense had a lot to do with it.
But despite all of that, with just over a minute left and the length of the field to go, he drove the team down the field for the winning score. Yes he got help on that short pass to the receiver who broke the tackles and ran to the Auburn 20, but Winston got the ball to him and the rest of his receivers 6-7 times on that last time, including the game winner with 13 seconds left.
Yes he likely needs at least another year, maybe two, before he is NFL ready. But not many redshirt freshman QBs start for an undefeated National Championship team and win the Heisman, much less win the National Championship in the final 13 seconds of the game.
Give the man some credit for what he accomplished on the college level, even if he isn't quite ready for the NFL yet.
Auburn left a lot of points on the field. I think it was something like 10 points in the first half. But you're right, OP, Auburn was the better team last night. Just one of those days where punters, kickers, and returners had their impact.
Forget the football game. How about that post game speech. I would imagine any representative of FSU cringes any time there is a mic in front of him. His butchering of the English language should be a embarrassment to him and the school that claims to be educating him. If you needed any proof that academics are a afterthought as it pertains to college football, there you go. There is not a doubt in my mind that that guy is functioning at a fifth grade level or below. he should not even be eligible to attend the school much less be on the field.
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