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Denver inquired About Drew during his holdout & Aaron Rodgers & mjd not a bad Combo..ijs

Quote:Caldwell just said the man deserves to see what his worth is in free agency. We have the right to match or not match the offer. Caldwell will not give up much to resign him. Personally, with him being near 30 and having been injured the last 2 years......no smart GM would take a chance.

"We have the right to match or not match the offer" from above fails to understand that once MJD hits free agency, there is no obligation for MJD or his agent the need to let the Jags match an offer. Caldwell would 'like' MJD to let him review and possibly match the offer, but it is in no way a legal 'right' to have such opportunity.

Something gone from all this is with the news that we are going to let him walk, pretty much admits we made a mistake not trading him at the holdout. There were apparently suitors who inquired but we turned them all down. -- And for what?...for 2 wins in 2012 and 4 wins in 2013?

 

Another bad decision. 

 

Should have took what we could in draft choice compensation at the time. 

Quote:Something gone from all this is with the news that we are going to let him walk, pretty much admits we made a mistake not trading him at the holdout. There were apparently suitors who inquired but we turned them all down. -- And for what?...for 2 wins in 2012 and 4 wins in 2013?

 

Another bad decision. 

 

Should have took what we could in draft choice compensation at the time. 

 

I am with you on this. However, in 2012 when he was holding out, Gene Smith was still the man in charge, not Caldwell. If there were deals out on the table prior to the 2013 season, then yes, it was a mistake not pursuing one of those deals. But, again, with it being Caldwell and Bradley's first year up to bat together, they probably didn't see any strategic advantage in trading away one of our star players. I think Caldwell has done a decent job so far. Trading Monroe to Baltimore ended up being a pretty slick move. Baltimore fell well under this year's expectations so those picks we got will be higher in value. It'll be interesting to see if he packages those together somehow and moves up to take his QB in potentially RD1 later on or RD2 or maybe even MJD's replacement. You never know.

Quote:Denver inquired About Drew during his holdout & Aaron Rodgers & mjd not a bad Combo..ijs

He won't get much playtime behind Lacy.

Mojo to chiefs possibly? I think the Raiders and Patriots are likely destinations.

Maurice would be a good fit, IMHO, out West in either Arizona or San Diego. I wouldn't be surprised if those are one of the teams that targets him early on during the off-season. The Chargers and Cardinals have been hurting for awhile now at the RB position.

Quote:"We have the right to match or not match the offer" from above fails to understand that once MJD hits free agency, there is no obligation for MJD or his agent the need to let the Jags match an offer. Caldwell would 'like' MJD to let him review and possibly match the offer, but it is in no way a legal 'right' to have such opportunity.

 

 

This is precisely the point I came here to make. Caldwell has no such right...it's merely a privilege if MJD were to allow it to happen. He should have chosen his words more carefully. Hopefully he chooses players with more care.

For me, the potential landing spots for MoJo are:

 

<p style="margin-left:40px;">- Tennessee Titans: dependant on Chris Johnson being cut/traded.

<p style="margin-left:40px;">- Miami Dolphins: they really need a big boost in the running game.

<p style="margin-left:40px;">- New York Jets: MoJo would be an improvement on what they've currently got. 

<p style="margin-left:40px;">- Cleveland Browns: probably go out and get one via the draft, but they have more than enough cap space to get him. 

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That being said, I do hope he ends up returning here as long as it is a team friendly deal. 

 

Quote:Mojo to chiefs possibly? I think the Raiders and Patriots are likely destinations.

 

The Pats could be a good destination for him, though with Ridley, Blount and Vereen they might stick with that combo. 

 

Not sure the Raiders will go for him unless they do not re-sign Jennings and/or McFadden, and to be honest, Jennings showed he could be a good starting RB for them. 

 

Quote:Maurice would be a good fit, IMHO, out West in either Arizona or San Diego. I wouldn't be surprised if those are one of the teams that targets him early on during the off-season. The Chargers and Cardinals have been hurting for awhile now at the RB position.

 

Can't see San Diego chasing him. Ryan Mathews is having a very good season and starting to show signs he could become an elite back. Obviously he needs to push on next season and stay healthy, but I think in Mathews they have their long term back. Plus with Woodhead as their change of pace/Darren Sproles type guy, I don't see MoJo doing much at San Diego. 

 

Arizona could be a good fit. 

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Arizona could be a good fit. 

 

Arizona would be a good fit. They like signing over the hill former stars. Remember when Emmitt ended his career there?

Quote:Wouldn't you rather have a non-leading rusher and be better than 5-11?

 

That's what's called a false choice, boys and girls.  Also, how dare MJD not surround himself with better talent!?!?  Clearly he should have cut or traded himself long ago, for the betterment of the team.   :teehee:

Quote:"We have the right to match or not match the offer" from above fails to understand that once MJD hits free agency, there is no obligation for MJD or his agent the need to let the Jags match an offer. Caldwell would 'like' MJD to let him review and possibly match the offer, but it is in no way a legal 'right' to have such opportunity.

 

 

Quote:This is precisely the point I came here to make. Caldwell has no such right...it's merely a privilege if MJD were to allow it to happen. He should have chosen his words more carefully. Hopefully he chooses players with more care.

   I hope you don't earn your living interpreting legal language.  Caldwell isn't suggesting the Jaguars have a legal right of first refusal; he's actually emphasizing the point that neither side will have a contractual obligation to the other.  Moreover, he's sending the message that if MJD goes "shopping", he does so at his peril as the team will be doing likewise.

   He understands that MJD will be free to sign with any other team without notice.  He also understands his 'right" to match, underbid, surpass or simply ignore any and all offers from other teams that MJD may choose to make known to him.

Quote:   I hope you don't earn your living interpreting legal language.  Caldwell isn't suggesting the Jaguars have a legal right of first refusal; he's actually emphasizing the point that neither side will have a contractual obligation to the other.  Moreover, he's sending the message that if MJD goes "shopping", he does so at his peril as the team will be doing likewise.

   He understands that MJD will be free to sign with any other team without notice.  He also understands his 'right" to match, underbid, surpass or simply ignore any and all offers from other teams that MJD may choose to make known to him.

 

 

I don't know where you got all of this from what he said. Here's his actual verbiage, and it looks straight forward to me...


 

<p style="margin-left:40px;">“I think he has earned the right to go see what his value in this market is, then it’s our right to decide if we want to match it and bring him back.”

Quote:I don't know where you got all of this from what he said. Here's his actual verbiage, and it looks straight forward to me...


 

<p style="margin-left:40px;">“I think he has earned the right to go see what his value in this market is, then it’s our right to decide if we want to match it and bring him back.”

It is straightforward..........straightforward P.R. rhetoric.  It's not meant to define legal rights and obligations.  You're reading WAY too much into it.

Quote:It is straightforward..........straightforward P.R. rhetoric.  It's not meant to define legal rights and obligations.  You're reading WAY too much into it.

nail on the head

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Quote:I don't know where you got all of this from what he said. Here's his actual verbiage, and it looks straight forward to me...


 

<p style="margin-left:40px;">“I think he has earned the right to go see what his value in this market is, then it’s our right to decide if we want to match
it and bring him back.”

 

Okay, come on now Deuce. Read that bolded part again slowly. "It's our right to decide if we want to match it and bring him back."

 

He's not saying that they have the right to the player, he's not saying that they can block other people/teams from talking to him. He's saying that it is the team's right to decide whether or not they want to spend the money that would be required to get him onto the roster.

 

It's just like a bidder's right at an auction; it's your decision whether or not you want to raise your little fan when that priceless piece of Louis XIV furniture comes around. That doesn't meant that other people can't raise their little fans as well.

You guys realize his rushing title wasn't even his most effective year, right? He ground out a very literal 4 yards per carry, and you could have seen then he no longer had that big play ability. It's a passing league fellas, and if you can't make the big play you're on your way out if you're a RB

Quote:I hope you don't earn your living interpreting legal language.  Caldwell isn't suggesting the Jaguars have a legal right of first refusal; he's actually emphasizing the point that neither side will have a contractual obligation to the other.  Moreover, he's sending the message that if MJD goes "shopping", he does so at his peril as the team will be doing likewise.
   He understands that MJD will be free to sign with any other team without notice.  He also understands his 'right" to match, underbid, surpass or simply ignore any and all offers from other teams that MJD may choose to make known to him.

If you took the time to read my post, I was clarifying the previous identified post's point that seemed to suggest that the Jags had a legal right of first refusal. I was not suggesting that Caldwell himself did not understand his rights, legal or otherwise. I disagree that he's "sending a message" that MJD has a peril in testing free agency. I hope you don't earn your living trying to interpret common reading comprehension and dialogue.

Quote:Arizona would be a good fit. They like signing over the hill former stars. Remember when Emmitt ended his career there?

 

You mean 10 years and 2 GM's ago?