we have to spend this coming offseason so after all the dust settles and hes still a fa, i would be willing to give him a fair contract, with our crappy division, we could challenge next season so thats a plus. i wonder if greg jones would come back for cheap too
Quote:we have to spend this coming offseason so after all the dust settles and hes still a fa, i would be willing to give him a fair contract, with our crappy division, we could challenge next season so thats a plus. i wonder if greg jones would come back for cheap too
Pretty sure he took less money to go play for the tinhorns. But i would love to see him back i think he is the main diff. in why we cant run.
Quote:Pretty sure he took less money to go play for the tinhorns. But i would love to see him back i think he is the main diff. in why we cant run.
Maybe we could get Brunell back, too...or Clyde Simmons.
Quote:Maybe we could get Brunell back, too...or Clyde Simmons.
Greg Jones is better then both of them combined .. besides id rather have Joel Smeengee
Someone will offer him more than the Jags will offer. Age and injuries have taken their toll, and father time has never lost.
Quote:....and father time has never lost.
Listening to Colin Cowherd today were we?....
Quote:I laugh when people say things like "He stuck it out with the franchise".
It's all about the money. Somebody will overpay him this off-season and he won't be a Jaguar ever again. Enjoy him these last few games.
You may be correct, but the league isn't trending that way.
Most GMs see little upside in paying for an "old" running back. How often does it happen?
One of the few times it has happened - i.e., Stephen Jackson going to Atlanta - hasn't turned out very well for the Falcons.
Doubt there will be much of a market. Wouldn't be surprised to see him return.
I'd offer him 2 years at around 3.5 mil per year - possibility of more in incentives if he produces. It also depends on what he does the rest of the way - my offer is contingent on him playing more like he did vs the tinhorns.
I think he'll want guaranteed money and go elsewhere.
Quote:I'd offer him 2 years at around 3.5 mil per year - possibility of more in incentives if he produces
Glad you're not our GM.
I'd be upset with that amount. Too much for what he's given you this season, and likely to be diminishing returns as we go forward.
Quote:Glad you're not our GM.
I'd be upset with that amount. Too much for what he's given you this season, and likely to be diminishing returns as we go forward.
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Quote:I'd offer him 2 years at around 3.5 mil
This is more like it.
Quote:This is more like it.
If you mean "total" then yes. But even then, I'd give that 2nd year as a team option. (meaning they can release him without pay after one year)
Quote:If you mean "total" then yes. But even then, I'd give that 2nd year as a team option. (meaning they can release him without pay after one year)
I meant total, that's why I deleted the per year part and said that's more like it.
I had thought this would be MJD's final season in Jacksonville, but given his lack of production and age, we may be his best option. I can't think of too many teams he would start for, if any, so Jacksonville may be his best opportunity to start for one-two more seasons.
ideally, I'd like us to draft his replacement, as we did with the Fred Taylor situation back in '06. I salivate at the thought of MJD and Melvin Gordon in the backfield together.
Quote:It depends on the amount of money and length of the contract. I'd offer him a 2 year deal at about 5 or 6 million per year.
Doesn't he make less than that now? I believe 4.5mil is his number. A reasonable rate would be 2-3 mill per year. RB do not get paid like they used too, and he just doesn't move laterally like he used to. Although his punishing style and dragging people is starting to come back. I would want to keep him for a couple more years, but hey, I am a fan.
Quote:I had thought this would be MJD's final season in Jacksonville, but given his lack of production and age, we may be his best option. I can't think of too many teams he would start for, if any, so Jacksonville may be his best opportunity to start for one-two more seasons.
ideally, I'd like us to draft his replacement, as we did with the Fred Taylor situation back in '06. I salivate at the thought of MJD and Melvin Gordon in the backfield together.
If there are issues with his lack of production, age, and decline in physcial abliltiy, why would the Jaguars want to bring him back.
Quote:If there are issues with his lack of production, age, and decline in physcial abliltiy, why would the Jaguars want to bring him back.
Because MJD has a history of great production, so maybe from a production standpoint, he is just having an off year. Clearly, he's not as explosive as he used to be, but I think he is still capable of being a productive back if he had a viable backup to spot him carries -- again, kind of like the Fred Taylor situation back in 2006.
I remember Fred Taylor had an off year in 2005, which lead to him signing a big-ish contract in 2006, if memory serves me correctly.
Only with a very large paycut and many preformance incentives
I'd favor bringing him back on the cheap 2 year deal. Here's my reasoning:
He is the best pass blocking back in the league bar none. He has reliable hands and is still an effective safety valve.
Both are extremely important to a young QB, which we all know we'll have next year, although I'd like to have a young RB splitting carries with him on 1st and 2nd down.