Quote:I wouldn't resign him. If he wanted to stay it would have to be on the cheap. That would be if I didn't have someone else I felt that would give me the same or more production.
If you run an NFL team on the cheap, you just want to repeat the past ten years.
Makes sense if you're in England though.
I'm surprised at the number of people wanting to bring back an aging, slow RB past his prime to this young developing team. Consider, too, his ill-advised holdout that set the tone for last year and his recent injury history. This is a rebuild, it doesn't help to keep him around, IMO.
Show him the door.
Quote:If you run an NFL team on the cheap, you just want to repeat the past ten years.
Makes sense if you're in England though.
Why would I give a beat,up non producing (recently), old rb a contract that wasn't cheap? We all love and respect mjd but business is business.
According to Ryan O'Halloran:
@ryanohalloran: Caldwell says "realistic possibility" of Jones-Drew staying with #Jaguars after this year.
Quote:If you run a play in the NFL on offense, you darn better be sure you can stop it.
If you have success in practice then run it on Sunday, it usually means it worked upon your own defense.
The NFL is a "me too" league.
If we run plays in practice, I would imagine the Jags would use those plays in the actual game.
That's why they are practicing it!
Also, whether it worked on our defense or not, has absolutely no bearing on whether it works on the other team's defense.
I just realized you threw a bunch of sentences and slogans together that make absolutely no sense, like saying
Drew needs to find a team committed to the run, as if we are not.
We have been Committed to the run his entire career here.
Quote:According to Ryan O'Halloran:
@ryanohalloran: Caldwell says "realistic possibility" of Jones-Drew staying with #Jaguars after this year.
Good. I expect him to be back; he knows what he is now and won't demand much compensation despite his (agent's) history.
Blocking needs to improve. Threat of a passing game, which we haven't had in forever, will help MJD too. MJD is still our best player on offense. I'd keep him. Although Caldwell is dedicated to future, MJD will not be here when we're becoming a perennial winner. Might be shown the door like Daryl Smith
I'm in disagreement with the majority of the sentiment here.
First of all, let assess the overall MB sentiment. Keep MJD, but keep him cheap.
I agree with that. Keep him cheap. But I think that cheap is the qualifier that I disagree with.
3.5 per year for 2 years I think would be a major steal. I don't think MJD is going to get a lot of offers in FA. With that said, I think the Jags should negotiate with him to keep him for 2 years. If the numbers work, I think we get a steal for him.
The consensus is that MJD is done. But he's only 28 now, 29 in 2014 season. MJD is an elite RB. He's got at least 2 years left of high level play.
I have been critical of his conditioning this year. He's clearly overweight from 2 years ago when he had an MVP type season. The injury from last year along with other factors have caused him to be below where he is accustomed in terms of production.
But I have no doubt that next year will be a huge year for MJD. A smart GM and owner would be able to leverage his lack of production this year into a position where we can keep him at a reasonable price. It would be stupid to just let him walk without giving an honest offer with incentives that make it worth his while.
Any team that would pick up MJD next year is gonna have a beast of a RB. We all love the passion of Bradley, if MJD has bought in to that as well, I'm sure he'll come aboard. But it's up to the GM to realize the potential vs. the money.
You can't look at MJD this year and not see that he's... hate to say it... FAT. He's way overweight. Caldwell has to figure out why that is. If he chooses to let go MJD it's because he thinks MJD has lost the fire to be a football player. If it's because of the injury, you gotta re-sign him and let him get back to his former self.
As a fan, I want to believe that MJD is still suffering from last year, and in the offseason of 2014 he'll become the player we all remember.
The above is a "Homer" perspective. But I think it is also reasonable. Injuries, unforeseen circumstances, and a crap-house O-line, create situations out of control for an Elite RB. MJD still has 2 years before we call him done. Let's allow this to play out before we write him off.
Give him a lesser offer from the highest FA offer with a higher incentive. Keep him here. Watch him remind everyone what a pocket Hercules means!!
I'm an MJD fan. Always will be.
Quote:According to Ryan O'Halloran:
@ryanohalloran: Caldwell says "realistic possibility" of Jones-Drew staying with #Jaguars after this year.
I think its mostly pillow talk at this point. I think it is unlikely he will return.
Quote:According to Ryan O'Halloran:
@ryanohalloran: Caldwell says "realistic possibility" of Jones-Drew staying with #Jaguars after this year.
I just hope Caldwell is saying that with the idea of getting another RB in here as well. It wouldn't be too bright to be depending on MoJo to be "THE guy" in the backfield anymore.
Quote:Good. I expect him to be back; he knows what he is now and won't demand much compensation despite his (agent's) history.
If MoJo costs a lot to sign, then it would be stupid to bring him back.
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The consensus is that MJD is done. But he's only 28 now, 29 in 2014 season. MJD is an elite RB. He's got at least 2 years left of high level play.
Only 28?.....thats getting up there for a RB, and its especially no spring chicken for the type of contact RB that MoJo is.
He's NOT an elite RB anymore. Saying he is is delusional.
He's not even playing at high level THIS year, so what makes you think he's got 2 years left at high level when he'll be even older??
The possibility of him coming back only exists because he has few options.
I doubt he is back but if he does, it will be a modest salary.
I'd give him Kobe money.
2 years $48m - shock the world
Quote:I'd give him Kobe money.
2 years $48m - shock the world
We want to resign him on the cheap side, not kill him with laughter..
Quote: If we run plays in practice, I would imagine the Jags would use those plays in the actual game.
That's why they are practicing it!
Also, whether it worked on our defense or not, has absolutely no bearing on whether it works on the other team's defense.
I just realized you threw a bunch of sentences and slogans together that make absolutely no sense, like saying
Drew needs to find a team committed to the run, as if we are not.
We have been Committed to the run his entire career here.
We aren't committed to the run and the stats show it.
I'll present two most recent years. Then I'll select two previous years. You can knock yourself out trying to debunk it.
2013 (2-9 thru 11 games)
JAGUARS TOTAL OFFENSIVE PLAYS - 655
Pass 402 - 61%
Rush 253 - 39%
OPPONENT TOTAL OFFENSIVE PLAYS - 704
Pass 362 - 51%
Rush 342 - 49%
2012 (2-14 thru 16 games)
JAGUARS TOTAL OFFENSIVE PLAYS - 944
Pass 586 - 62%
Rush 358 - 38%
OPPONENT TOTAL OFFENSIVE PLAYS - 1080
Pass 535 - 49%
Rush 545 - 51%
1996 (9-6 thru 16 games)
JAGUARS TOTAL OFFENSIVE PLAYS - 905
Pass 495 - 55%
Rush 410 - 45%
OPPONENT TOTAL OFFENSIVE PLAYS - 1013
Pass 509 - 50%
Rush 504 - 50%
1999 (14-2 thru 16 games)
JAGUARS TOTAL OFFENSIVE PLAYS - 1049
Pass 535 - 51%
Rush 514 - 49%
OPPONENT TOTAL OFFENSIVE PLAYS - 894
Pass 521 - 58%
Rush 373 - 42%
This elementary NFL coaching matter. Your coaching staff should be well-educated enough to understand you must maintain the balance between rushing the football and passing the football.
Quote:I'd give him Kobe money.
2 years $48m - shock the world
Kobe had a disgruntled wife to pay off though
The Jags have shown some signs of getting tougher with players instead of looking at past contributions- Daryl Smith, Montell Owens, Rashean Mathis, et al- and it's likely they'll do the same with MJD, IMO. It's a new era here.
There's no way I'd keep him. I'd rather see that money go to a FA OL piece and then pick up a RB through the draft, UDFA or from cuts. RBs aren't hard to find.
I don't know what he adds to the locker room. either. Gus and the FO will assess that but is he still bitter about his ill-advised holdout and a negative force in there? Who knows. What we do know is that he's aging, has an injury history, is slowing down and, as Anchorman said, is fat.
Why would you want that? His prime is in the rear view mirror.
Draft the kid from Boston College with one of the Monroe picks and move on.
With lack of production being so noticeable on a national scale we may get to resign him a lot cheaper than if we gave him a 5 year deal 2 years ago. He has looked a lot better since the bye and when the O-line has a good game he does too.
Quote:Only 28?.....thats getting up there for a RB, and its especially no spring chicken for the type of contact RB that MoJo is.
He's NOT an elite RB anymore. Saying he is is delusional.
He's not even playing at high level THIS year, so what makes you think he's got 2 years left at high level when he'll be even older??
I know there were alot of words in what I wrote. I am not offended that you didn't read them all. The answers to your questions were actually in there. Shame you couldn't focus long enough!
LOL :woot: :whistling:
Quote:We aren't committed to the run and the stats show it.
I'll present two most recent years. Then I'll select two previous years. You can knock yourself out trying to debunk it.
2013 (2-9 thru 11 games)
JAGUARS TOTAL OFFENSIVE PLAYS - 655
Pass 402 - 61%
Rush 253 - 39%
OPPONENT TOTAL OFFENSIVE PLAYS - 704
Pass 362 - 51%
Rush 342 - 49%
2012 (2-14 thru 16 games)
JAGUARS TOTAL OFFENSIVE PLAYS - 944
Pass 586 - 62%
Rush 358 - 38%
OPPONENT TOTAL OFFENSIVE PLAYS - 1080
Pass 535 - 49%
Rush 545 - 51%
1996 (9-6 thru 16 games)
JAGUARS TOTAL OFFENSIVE PLAYS - 905
Pass 495 - 55%
Rush 410 - 45%
OPPONENT TOTAL OFFENSIVE PLAYS - 1013
Pass 509 - 50%
Rush 504 - 50%
1999 (14-2 thru 16 games)
JAGUARS TOTAL OFFENSIVE PLAYS - 1049
Pass 535 - 51%
Rush 514 - 49%
OPPONENT TOTAL OFFENSIVE PLAYS - 894
Pass 521 - 58%
Rush 373 - 42%
This elementary NFL coaching matter. Your coaching staff should be well-educated enough to understand you must maintain the balance between rushing the football and passing the football.
Kinda hard to commit to the run this season when your behind most of the time.