Quote:You may need to read DF's post again.
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As I understand it, the robbery was over, the punks left the store where they were confronted by a bystander, and subsequently shot to death.
The details are sketchy, but I don't agree with vigilantism. Too many people may take the law into their own hands before due process. So without further information on this particular shooting, I only would side with the bystander if he was being threatened at that time.
Just need to make sure some rules are still followed. Other than that, they got what they deserved.
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I agree, and didnt realize this was 14 pages until after reading the first couple pages.
While I agree with your point, isnt it astounding that people would actually be mad at the end result of their relatives actions? If they didnt commit a felony in the first place, they would not be in these situations.
Well this is a fun thread.
Can I join? I've shot a gun before.
Oh it's now the drafters big gun topic? Saweet. Where do in register my biceps at?
Quote:While I agree with your point, isnt it astounding that people would actually be mad at the end result of their relatives actions? If they didnt commit a felony in the first place, they would not be in these situations.
Oh, I get that ... totally do. It may never change for them, and they have every reason to feel the way they do. :yes:
It's just part of your child being dead, and 9 out of every 10 parents would feel just like they do. Really crappy while laying their child to rest.
I don't agree with them, but I can
respect it. I can respect that they have to figure out a reason why their child shouldn't be dead, it is a part that they need to believe deep down their child wasn't an evil evil person.
If it helps some of them heal just a little?
I'm okay with them having that amount of belief in their child. It is exactly what you would expect to happen, it is natural, isn't it?
Can you imagine being Mason's family? Or Casey Anthony being your Daughter?
That would kill me in, and of itself. Parents react like Parents.
Quote:If I owned a store and I was being robbed, and somehow I was able to get a hold of my gun as well.....first reaction is to start shooting. If they are running because they see my gun, so be it.
Why do I have to show good judgement when someone enters my property to rob me and I am able to turn the table on them? If they had the chance to shoot him they would have taken it (or else why bring a gun?)
DragonFury doesn't understand the American use-of-force laws.
If you're defending yourself (
OR ANOTHER PERSON) from an offender that has the ability, opportunity, and manifested actions that support such intent, then you're allowed to use force in ending the life of said person.
In other words, when someone points, or pointed, a gun at anyone, then you're allowed to shoot them.
While it may be noted that if the threat is over, the the use-of-force is no longer present. If the person suspects that the offender may rob, harm, or attempt to harm another person, the the use-of-force is present again. DF is arguing with emotion, no logic.
Quote:DragonFury doesn't understand the American use-of-force laws.
If you're defending yourself (OR ANOTHER PERSON) from an offender that has the ability, opportunity, and manifested actions that support such intent, then you're allowed to use force in ending the life of said person.
In other words, when someone points, or pointed, a gun at anyone, then you're allowed to shoot them.
While it may be noted that if the threat is over, the the use-of-force is no longer present. If the person suspects that the offender may rob, harm, or attempt to harm another person, the the use-of-force is present again. DF is arguing with emotion, no logic.
And don't forget his "America Bad" tendencies.
Quote:And don't forget his "America Bad" tendencies.
... or how the Dutch's resistance in WWII was as significant as any other Allied contribution.
Maybe I'm the only one that remembers this...
Quote:While it may be noted that if the threat is over, the the use-of-force is no longer present. If the person suspects that the offender may rob, harm, or attempt to harm another person, the the use-of-force is present again. DF is arguing with emotion, no logic.
Is there an anonymity period? Would it be somewhere between 10 seconds, and 10 days?
LOL he merged them all because they are all the same situation...
Gun pulled, my obligation to help
Crime committed, no longer in progress, not my job. Get the plates and a description. Let the cops have a job. If they're worth their salt, they'll catch them.
DF, If you're ever back in the states and some thug has you at gunpoint to take al your precious euros off you. You'll hope I'm walking in the store. *Unless I know it's you, 'cause guns are bad mmmkay :whistling: