Quote:Wins is a pointless arguement. Gabbert got a win against Baltimore despite doing nothing.
Henne can move the chains Gabbert can't. I don't see how anyone can't see that
But lets stop act like henne is some major upgrade because he's not. If that was the case henne would have won us more than one win by now.
Quote:But lets stop act like henne is some major upgrade because he's not. If that was the case henne would have won us more than one win by now.
Is anybody acting like that? I don't see Henne as a "major upgrade" but he is clearly better. Which is sad, because he is not good. But Gabbert is just that bad.
Quote:Is anybody acting like that? I don't see Henne as a "major upgrade" but he is clearly better. Which is sad, because he is not good. But Gabbert is just that bad.
You're splitting hairs.
Saying he's not a major upgrade but that he's "clearly better" is where things are taking a turn for the idiotic.
If you think he's better then think that, but the results say he's the same guy but with more checkdowns and less throwing down the field.
If you like seeing a lot of checkdowns between the twenties instead of seeing a guy trying to push it and develop like Gabbert then Henne's your man, but it doesn't mean he's "clearly better."
Quote:You're splitting hairs.
Saying he's not a major upgrade but that he's "clearly better" is where things are taking a turn for the idiotic.
If you think he's better then think that, but the results say he's the same guy but with more checkdowns and less throwing down the field.
If you like seeing a lot of checkdowns between the twenties instead of seeing a guy trying to push it and develop like Gabbert then Henne's your man, but it doesn't mean he's "clearly better."
Not sure Gabbert pushes it or that he is developing. Look we all know they both suck, I (and others on here as well) just see this team sucking less with Henne. Gabbert has 1 TD pass and 7 interceptions. Henne has 2 TD passes and 5 interceptions. Gabbert has a QBR of 2... Henne with 24.
Now Henne isn't putting up world beater numbers and he is a piece of garbage but his numbers and play have been better than Gabberts. NO ONE WANTS EITHER QB ON THIS TEAM
Quote:You're splitting hairs.
Saying he's not a major upgrade but that he's "clearly better" is where things are taking a turn for the idiotic.
If you think he's better then think that, but the results say he's the same guy but with more checkdowns and less throwing down the field.
If you like seeing a lot of checkdowns between the twenties instead of seeing a guy trying to push it and develop like Gabbert then Henne's your man, but it doesn't mean he's "clearly better."
Henne is not a good quarterback, but he is better than Gabbert. This isn't even a discussion at this point. We've seen Gabbert play in three games. He is embarassing to watch and has twice gotten hurt. Why are you still defending that clown?
Quote:Not sure Gabbert pushes it or that he is developing. Look we all know they both suck, I (and others on here as well) just see this team sucking less with Henne. Gabbert has 1 TD pass and 7 interceptions. Henne has 2 TD passes and 5 interceptions. Gabbert has a QBR of 2... Henne with 24.
Now Henne isn't putting up world beater numbers and he is a piece of garbage but his numbers and play have been better than Gabberts. NO ONE WANTS EITHER QB ON THIS TEAM
No, Gabbert clearly hasn't developed, but it's also clear that the coaches told him to start slinging it around like the team should have done from the start.
He tried to go down the field a lot and it was abysmal. If he'd have done what Henne is doing and thrown a bunch of screens and checkdowns my guess is their performances would be practically the same. lots of garbage yards that don't lead to any points.
Quote:No, Gabbert clearly hasn't developed, but it's also clear that the coaches told him to start slinging it around like the team should have done from the start.
He tried to go down the field a lot and it was abysmal. If he'd have done what Henne is doing and thrown a bunch of screens and checkdowns my guess is their performances would be practically the same. lots of garbage yards that don't lead to any points.
He's never even been good enough to get garbage yards.
Quote:No, Gabbert clearly hasn't developed, but it's also clear that the coaches told him to start slinging it around like the team should have done from the start.
He tried to go down the field a lot and it was abysmal. If he'd have done what Henne is doing and thrown a bunch of screens and checkdowns my guess is their performances would be practically the same. lots of garbage yards that don't lead to any points.
You think Gabbert will be in the league in 3 years? Just curious...
Quote:You think Gabbert will be in the league in 3 years? Just curious...
I don't care and am not about to waste my time thinking about it. David Carr lasted a long time, so maybe Gabbert becomes someone's third stringer. It just doesn't move the needle for me when it comes to things I think are worth thinking about.
If Gabberts starts in London, some Premiere League team will probably inquire about his flopping skills
about time we changed
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Quote:You're splitting hairs.
Saying he's not a major upgrade but that he's "clearly better" is where things are taking a turn for the idiotic.
If you think he's better then think that, but the results say he's the same guy but with more checkdowns and less throwing down the field.
If you like seeing a lot of checkdowns between the twenties instead of seeing a guy trying to push it and develop like Gabbert then Henne's your man, but it doesn't mean he's "clearly better."
The " Gabbert doesnt check down" part of your post just made me shoot diet coke out of my nose.