Quote:How many of the QB's you spouted off were TOP 10 picks in the 1 st. RD. ? Vinny and Trent actually had nice stats in college....BLaine was a scrub in college with 16 TD passes in a spread offense, and he's continuing his scrubbery ways in the NFL. The NFL stands for NOT FOR LONG and Gabby's career will be that way. Very soon.
All time worst?
I think jaguar fans also over-underestimate our players too.
I will say this about Blaine Gabbert the team-mate: He's dealt with alot of fan critisim, all deserved- but I have not heard one story about his character. It takes a strong person to stink as bad has he does and not come out and be a complete jerk off the field. There are alot of QB's that would be throwing tantrums, yelling at team-mates on the sideline, sulking in the locker room, or just throwing everyone else under the bus.
I've never heard any reports on this MB or anywhere that Blaine is a bad team-mate. I could be wrong, cuz my research on this is extremely limited. But I'm sure that if there were rumors of Blaine's bad temperment it would have shown up here on the MB.
Props Blaine, you stink. But you seem to have a strong will and good character. I wish him the best of luck, I'm sure he got a good education and will be a positive contributing member of what ever community he lives in. Being a starting NFL QB isn't his path, but I'm pretty positive he'll find something else that he will be succesfull doing.
Of course, right after I post this, there will be some drama that he's involved in. Because Jaguars.
It's a stupid question, because there are thousands of guys who played quarterback in the NFL. Most don't register on the radar screen, because they only played a game or two. But I guarantee, there are literally thousands of quarterbacks in the history of the NFL who were worse than Blaine Gabbert.
See, the problem with "who's the worst ever" type of questions is, talent levels are spread like a pyramid. The best players are at the top, with very few other players. So you can actually ask the question, "who was the best." But the worst players are at the bottom of the pyramid, with thousands and thousands of other players. So you cannot ask "who was the worst" unless you eliminate most of them with a qualification, such as, "who was the worst quarterback who was selected in the top 10," or who was the worst quarterback who started at least 20 games."
It's just a poorly defined question, unanswerable as it is.
Quote:It's a stupid question, because there are thousands of guys who played quarterback in the NFL. Most don't register on the radar screen, because they only played a game or two. But I guarantee, there are literally thousands of quarterbacks in the history of the NFL who were worse than Blaine Gabbert.
See, the problem with "who's the worst ever" type of questions is, talent levels are spread like a pyramid. The best players are at the top, with very few other players. So you can actually ask the question, "who was the best." But the worst players are at the bottom of the pyramid, with thousands and thousands of other players. So you cannot ask "who was the worst" unless you eliminate most of them with a qualification, such as, "who was the worst quarterback who was selected in the top 10," or who was the worst quarterback who started at least 20 games."
It's just a poorly defined question, unanswerable as it is.
Good point maybe we could eliminate most of the Quarterbacks by including who was the worst starting quarterback for two and a half years. I can't remember a quarterback playing at this level for so long if you look at his stats, qb rating etc and just stink factor. Another vary high character person that is not cut out to be an NFL quarterback.
Quote:He has achieved one thing that I just don't understand, the ability to practice at a level that keeps coaches believing he will someday play that way in a game. That is the only answer to why he has been allowed to remain the starter for two plus years. I don't believe I can remember a quarterback who played any worse then Blaine. He is a game killer, a team killer and coach killer. He has no pocket presences, He can not throw on the run, He will slide at the first sight of contact, He locks on his primary receiver to the point that the defense can read his eyes and bat down passes, He floats passes five yards beyond the receiver, He throws interceptions at the worst possible times, he fumbles the ball, I can go on and on but what is the sense, He should have been benched a long time ago. i guess when you have a red shirt on and no one can hit you, you
can look like a real NFL quarterback!
Get to the stadium early some game day and watch him shuffle into work while looking at the ground. It looks like he wants to be anywhere but there. I've seen this twice.
Given the new NFL and the changes to a pass friendly league id say Gabbert is top 10 at least. Id put him just worse than Harrington and slightly less of a bust than Leaf. Only thing that killed Leaf was Manning and at least the other QBs from Gabbys draft (mostly the top 15 pick ones) havent been too hot either.
Quote:Given the new NFL and the changes to a pass friendly league id say Gabbert is top 10 at least. Id put him just worse than Harrington and slightly less of a bust than Leaf. Only thing that killed Leaf was Manning and at least the other QBs from Gabbys draft (mostly the top 15 pick ones) havent been too hot either.
Gabbert can't play but he works hard and is a good guy. Leaf and Russell were bad guys who didn't succeed because they didn't want to work at it. I think that makes them worse.
It should also be a reminder that no matter how much the draftnicks tout an incoming class we frequently don't get what they expected out of it. That should urge caution from the Teddy Messiah group lest you end up in this same frayed mindset if he comes here and can't play.
Edt: AND it always hurts the most in the present moment, but these moments don't last forever...even for the Cleveland Browns.
One more memory, lets not forget that Steve Spurrier was the third overall pick in the darft and he played back up to Brodie and punted before leading the expansion Bucs to the worst single season in NFL history.
I lived in Detroit during the Joey H. era and I watched pretty much every snap. He was better than Blaine. Blaine is bad, but not the worst ever. I think the fact the organization hasn't cut ties with him after being so obviously bad is what makes Gabbert feel like one of the worst all time. Most crappy QB's of his magnitude get pulled way before they've had the chance to suck this long.
Quote:Gabbert can't play but he works hard and is a good guy. Leaf and Russell were bad guys who didn't succeed because they didn't want to work at it. I think that makes them worse.
It should also be a reminder that no matter how much the draftnicks tout an incoming class we frequently don't get what they expected out of it. That should urge caution from the Teddy Messiah group lest you end up in this same frayed mindset if he comes here and can't play.
Edt: AND it always hurts the most in the present moment, but these moments don't last forever...even for the Cleveland Browns.
One more memory, lets not forget that Steve Spurrier was the third overall pick in the darft and he played back up to Brodie and punted before leading the expansion Bucs to the worst single season in NFL history.
He can't play simply because he has terrible pocket awareness.
He wasn't even the worst QB in Jaguars training camp this summer.
Quote:He can't play simply because he has terrible pocket awareness.
Ok, so what? That doesn't discount the rest of my statement and make him worse than Ryan Leaf or JaWalrus.
Quote:Ok, so what? That doesn't discount the rest of my statement and make him worse than Ryan Leaf or JaWalrus.
I wasn't in disagreement.
Quote:I wasn't in disagreement.
Ah, ok. :thanks:
Quote:I wasn't in disagreement.
That's a great .gif
If I can read Gabbert's thoughts during that moment, it'll probably be a bunch of "Oh sh*t! Oh sh*t! Oh sh*t! Oh sh*t! .... Awww sh*t"
Quote:He wasn't even the worst QB in Jaguars training camp this summer.
Gabbert is All Pro at practices I'll give him that.
Quote:If his career as a starter ended today he would sit at 28 Games Played, 53.3% Completion Rate (414/777), 156 YPG, 22 TDs, 24 INTs, 4,357 total yards, 66.4 QBR, and 5.6 YPA.
What do you guys think?
I'd still rank guys like JaMarcus Russel and Ryan Leaf in front of him. Tim Couch as well. I don't think he's a big as a bust as people are trying to make him out to be. Not trying to make excuses for the kid's bad play, but, let's be honest, it's not like he was a #1 overall selection. He clearly needed time to sit and learn and develop after being just 20 years old when he was selected with the 10th overall pick. He was the selection of Gene Smith, who has proven now that he CLEARLY didn't know what he was doing at the helm of the GM position of this front office. And the kid has gone thru 2 owners, 3 headcoaches, and 3 different systems. Plus, the contracts aren't what they used to be. Factor in Ponder's recent flop, and potentially Cam Newton here soon, that entire first round QB class of 2010 has been a HUGE dissapointment so far. Locker might save face. We'll see.
I'd have to do some homework. But for sure, I'd put guys like Russel, Leaf and Couch in front of him at this point in time. And I could probably find maybe two or three more QB's to put in front of him as well if I dug up some research.
Quote:That's a great .gif
If I can read Gabbert's thoughts during that moment, it'll probably be a bunch of "Oh sh*t! Oh sh*t! Oh sh*t! Oh sh*t! .... Awww sh*t"
I dont know if thats what he was thinking but i do know it was one of the better plays he made vs the rams.
Quote:Get to the stadium early some game day and watch him shuffle into work while looking at the ground. It looks like he wants to be anywhere but there. I've seen this twice.
He's the kid whose father made him play football, I see it all the time, I coach a team.
Quote:He's the kid whose father made him play football, I see it all the time, I coach a team.
ehh i might be anti gabbert but i will say i dont think this is the case. Going back to his mizzou days i saw a player who loved the game but didnt have the toughness and grit needed to elevate his game. He would play hard at times and give good effort but it wasnt enough.
I just think he thought it would be easier than this and is breaking down mentally and emotionally trying to adjust to the NFL. He had a spark and a fire when he came out (though i still say he sucked) but now the NFL has beaten even that out of him and all thats left is a empty husk .