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Dakota is correct. You have to wait at until at least the end of this week or next for swelling to decrease for the best MRI. This will be very important to look for "hidden" fractures that are not seen immediately, and to better look at the ligaments. The lower leg is notorious for having hidden fractures due to the tramautic forces. 

 

For surgery, it depends on how "displaced" the fracture is and on if it can be a stable fracture as JaguarsWoman stated. Displaced means that the edges of the break are not aligned like they need to be to heal correctly. 

 

Having said all that, this is a much better situation than say him having torn a muscle or tendon like Achilles, or him having a foot fracture (like MJD's Lisfranc). As long as he goes through the rehab appropriately, and does not have Gronkowski-like bad luck, he should return just like before, but with more strength since he will have time to just add to his frame and get stronger and more fit.

Quote:But why on Earth would Bradley say that unless there was a chance that Joeckel wouldn't be ready for offseason next spring?  And why would he specify offseason next spring unless there's a chance Joeckel won't be ready until after?  And why on Earth would he say "definitely" unless there's a question of doubt about the chances of a definite recovery?  

Gus Bradley fully expects Luke Joeckel to make a full recovery by next spring, but realizes setbacks happen all the time and plans change. Bradley also wants everybody to know what is most likely and be optimistic about Luke's recovery. In other words, we should be surprised if Luke is not ready for OTAs.

Quote:Gus Bradley fully expects Luke Joeckel to make a full recovery by next spring, but realizes setbacks happen all the time and plans change. Bradley also wants everybody to know what is most likely and be optimistic about Luke's recovery. In other words, we should be surprised if Luke is not ready for OTAs.

 

He also probably wants to tell everyone to not keep asking if he will be back this year or anything.

 

Also it is marking. He is highlighting about the situation in a positive spin "He will be great next year" rather than "He will be out this year".

 

It is another way in which the entire administration has basically been considering this entire year as a walkthrough to figure out what current players will stay next year and to future build up depth through another draft and possibly a few FA signings.

Quote:Dakota is correct. You have to wait at until at least the end of this week or next for swelling to decrease for the best MRI. This will be very important to look for "hidden" fractures that are not seen immediately, and to better look at the ligaments. The lower leg is notorious for having hidden fractures due to the tramautic forces. 

 

For surgery, it depends on how "displaced" the fracture is and on if it can be a stable fracture as JaguarsWoman stated. Displaced means that the edges of the break are not aligned like they need to be to heal correctly. 

 

Having said all that, this is a much better situation than say him having torn a muscle or tendon like Achilles, or him having a foot fracture (like MJD's Lisfranc). As long as he goes through the rehab appropriately, and does not have Gronkowski-like bad luck, he should return just like before, but with more strength since he will have time to just add to his frame and get stronger and more fit.

You explained a displaced fracture better than I did. Whether it needs surgery or not sometimes depends on which bone broke. I did not need surgery because they were in my left arm, but a collarbone can't be set the same way.

 

Why is this injury less severe than MJD's left foot? He said he might need surgery and definitely will be out for the year. Everyone expected MJD to play again in 2012.

Quote:He also probably wants to tell everyone to not keep asking if he will be back this year or anything.

 

Also it is marking. He is highlighting about the situation in a positive spin "He will be great next year" rather than "He will be out this year".

 

It is another way in which the entire administration has basically been considering this entire year as a walkthrough to figure out what current players will stay next year and to future build up depth through another draft and possibly a few FA signings.

Although the season basically is a walkthrough in some ways, the team is not thinking that at all. They are just trying to win games. But that topic is for another thread.

 

"He will be out this year" does not need to be said. Reporters know ankle fractures take several months to heal and the Jaguars have no chance of going to the playoffs, so they can figure out themselves Luke Joeckel is headed to injured reserve.

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Does anyone know what the thing he wears to get around is called? The article only says it looks like a tricycle and supports his right foot. I had never heard of or seen that kind of contraption, so I can't picture how he uses it.

 

After reading the whole article, I admired him for just calling what probably is the worst injury of his life "a bump in the road." Wow. He can't walk on his own and needed his mom to move in, but thinks it is like a speed bump? I could never see it that way.

I have seen comments that are odd or concerning. But odd and concerning scares me.

Waffles?

Quote:Thanks for the tip, JW.  I didn't realize that was selectable.  Animated gifs now turned off.

 

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Quote:I have seen comments that are odd or concerning. But odd and concerning scares me.

I personally don't see why anybody would think the comments are odd and concerning.  It is always a good thing to be optimistic about your recovery time because that helps you heal faster. What looks odd and concerning to me is not knowing if he will need surgery or having a definite recovery timeline, which indicates he may have ligament damage.

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Also, I am greatly enjoying the conversation!

Quote:why does everybody need a gif under their name?

 

Because they, including me, like them. There are a few ways to avoid seeing them explained in the jaguars.com forum.

Quote:Waffles?

 

 

Pancakes

 

Quote:Waffles?

In other words you don't know either.

Quote:Because it's a bigger deal for a 6'6 325 pound man to recover from lower body injuries, esp when your feet are maybe the biggest asset to a lineman other than brute strength ... You little 5'8 160 pounders have it much easier

Broken bones are the most predictable injuries to track.  The size of the patient doesn't change that, especially when the 6'6" 325 pound man has rehab options available to him that most mere mortals do not. 

Quote:In other words you don't know either.

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Quote:Does anyone know what the thing he wears to get around is called? The article only says it looks like a tricycle and supports his right foot. I had never heard of or seen that kind of contraption, so I can't picture how he uses it.

 

After reading the whole article, I admired him for just calling what probably is the worst injury of his life "a bump in the road." Wow. He can't walk on his own and needed his mom to move in, but thinks it is like a speed bump? I could never see it that way.

It's kind of like a wheelchair for his leg.  You put your leg up on it and push with your other leg.

Quote:It's kind of like a wheelchair for his leg.  You put your leg up on it and push with your other leg.

 

Too bad Ratso didn't have something like that