Quote:I get that. Im with you. But Who do you want us to start if not Gabbert? Henne? Scott? Tebow lol?
Gabbert has led the team to a total of 3 points in 2 games. Atleast Henne puts up points in garbage time.
Gabbert also has played both home games and Henne has played both on the west coast (where we always tend to stink up the joint).
I mean come on... He couldn't even get a lousy garbage time against the Colts?! Even Henne did that against Seattle IN Seattle.
Quote:Gabbert has led the team to a total of 3 points in 2 games. Atleast Henne puts up points in garbage time.
Gabbert also has played both home games and Henne has played both on the west coast (where we always tend to stink up the joint).
I mean come on... He couldn't even get a lousy garbage time against the Colts?! Even Henne did that against Seattle IN Seattle.
Last year Gabbert played better on the road than at home:
Home:
92/155 (59%)
810 yards
4 TDs
6 INT
5.2 YPA
Away:
70/123 (56%)
852 yards
9 TDs
0 INT
6.9 YPA
I know they're basically trying to say "We're tanking the season" without outright saying it but it's irritating hearing about competing and having the least competitive QB in the NFL as our starter.
Quote:Gabbert has led the team to a total of 3 points in 2 games. Atleast Henne puts up points in garbage time.
Gabbert also has played both home games and Henne has played both on the west coast (where we always tend to stink up the joint).
I mean come on... He couldn't even get a lousy garbage time against the Colts?! Even Henne did that against Seattle IN Seattle.
Against SEA backups.
Gus said today he watched the film and feels even stronger about BG starting. He is the head coach and if i had to choose between trusting his evaluation and yours it would be his.
http://www.jaguars.com/news/article-Jagu...69ca1a5def
You know, he's going to continue saying the same thing week after week until this season is done. He's not going to throw his QB under the bus, so I'm not sure what people are expecting here.
There were a couple of throws, including the first interception and the first pass he threw yesterday that were big time plays. One went well, and the other took the entire passing game off the tracks when Shorts didn't catch the pass.
The first completion he had was thrown into a super tight window, and he showed absolutely no hesitation in making the play. The pass that Shorts handed to the Colts was another well delivered pass that was in tight coverage, and it ended up being picked off. I think that rattled him when his most reliable target proved to be anything but yesterday. If you're a QB, and your best option at receiver isn't making the plays, it's human nature to be reluctant to lose some trust in that guy. Good QBs let it go and keep feeding the ball to that receiver knowing whatever it is will get worked out eventually. Gabbert's not a good QB. We used to see Garrard and even Mark Brunell do the same things. They'd throw it to a receiver, and if he screwed up, that was it for the day. Back to Jimmy and Keenan. Right now, Gabbert doesn't have a Jimmy or a Keenan. Hopefully with Blackmon back on the field, it will help him to gain some confidence. But, at this point in his career, that seems completely unlikely.
The real problem with Gabbert isn't mechanics, or even his smarts. It's what happens to him once he's been rattled. He doesn't recover. You start to see him feeling pressure that isn't quite there yet, so instead of stepping up in the pocket, he's forcing a throw or running from this pressure he senses. To be fair, Fisch should be designing more plays to allow him to roll out and throw the ball because he's actually not bad on the run if he can find an open target. The problem is, nobody is getting open. When he is forced to roll out, none of his receivers are recognizing this and trying to break off their routes to help their QB.
No matter how you look at it, Gabbert is dead man walking. You'd think he'd recognize this and say to heck with it, and cut loose out there. Right now, he's auditioning for his next team. Forget about worrying about making mistakes, and just fling it around. It really can't get much worse than what we've seen to date.
Quote:You know, he's going to continue saying the same thing week after week until this season is done. He's not going to throw his QB under the bus, so I'm not sure what people are expecting here.
There were a couple of throws, including the first interception and the first pass he threw yesterday that were big time plays. One went well, and the other took the entire passing game off the tracks when Shorts didn't catch the pass.
The first completion he had was thrown into a super tight window, and he showed absolutely no hesitation in making the play. The pass that Shorts handed to the Colts was another well delivered pass that was in tight coverage, and it ended up being picked off. I think that rattled him when his most reliable target proved to be anything but yesterday. If you're a QB, and your best option at receiver isn't making the plays, it's human nature to be reluctant to lose some trust in that guy. Good QBs let it go and keep feeding the ball to that receiver knowing whatever it is will get worked out eventually. Gabbert's not a good QB. We used to see Garrard and even Mark Brunell do the same things. They'd throw it to a receiver, and if he screwed up, that was it for the day. Back to Jimmy and Keenan. Right now, Gabbert doesn't have a Jimmy or a Keenan. Hopefully with Blackmon back on the field, it will help him to gain some confidence. But, at this point in his career, that seems completely unlikely.
The real problem with Gabbert isn't mechanics, or even his smarts. It's what happens to him once he's been rattled. He doesn't recover. You start to see him feeling pressure that isn't quite there yet, so instead of stepping up in the pocket, he's forcing a throw or running from this pressure he senses. To be fair, Fisch should be designing more plays to allow him to roll out and throw the ball because he's actually not bad on the run if he can find an open target. The problem is, nobody is getting open. When he is forced to roll out, none of his receivers are recognizing this and trying to break off their routes to help their QB.
No matter how you look at it, Gabbert is dead man walking. You'd think he'd recognize this and say to heck with it, and cut loose out there. Right now, he's auditioning for his next team. Forget about worrying about making mistakes, and just fling it around. It really can't get much worse than what we've seen to date.
I actually agree with this. Gabbert is to blame for some of the pass protection issues. He has a clean pocket and starts feeling ghost and runs to the sideline forcing the throw away. Once gabbert has a mistake he does not recover from it. I just hope we don't have to watch him all season. Just terrible
Gabbert needs to get in a groove to be effective, but when his receivers are dropping the ball, lineman are jumping off sides, blitzes aren't picked up, he gets rattled easily.
Fisch needs to give the offense 10 plays. Let them run the 10 plays over and over and over in practice until each one is perfectly executed. Then let Gabbert call the play at the line of scrimmage once he reads the defense. At least you know he'll be comfortable running the play he called.
Regards....................the Chiefjag
Gabbert is too busy looking at the pass rush to even notice WRs getting open. The pocket was there yesterday.
Quote:Gabbert is too busy looking at the pass rush to even notice WRs getting open. The pocket was there yesterday.
Agree 100%
Almost as if he's gotten so used to it, he's preparing for it before the snap.
Now if I can only sell you on AJ-LOL
Quote:Agree 100%
Almost as if he's gotten so used to it, he's preparing for it before the snap.
Now if I can only sell you on AJ-LOL
I like AJ. A lot actually. Didn't really at first, but he has turned into a legitimate prospect to me. He knows how to move around in the pocket, gets the ball to his play makers, and he is good under pressure.
Quote:Gabbert needs to get in a groove to be effective, but when his receivers are dropping the ball, lineman are jumping off sides, blitzes aren't picked up, he gets rattled easily.
Fisch needs to give the offense 10 plays. Let them run the 10 plays over and over and over in practice until each one is perfectly executed. Then let Gabbert call the play at the line of scrimmage once he reads the defense. At least you know he'll be comfortable running the play he called.
Regards....................the Chiefjag
Makes you wonder how someone that mentally fragile made it to the highest level of their profession
Quote:Makes you wonder how someone that mentally fragile made it to the highest level of their profession
He wasn't ready but they all thought his skills were too good to pass on. When he entered the draft he was only 2 seasons removed from high school.
Regards.......................the Chiefjag
He's just does not have it. Time to move on.
Quote:He's just does not have it. Time to move on.
Don't you guys ever get tired of whining about the same thing, over and over every week? You guys act like your crying about our bad QB situation is going to change something. If/when Gus and Caldwell want to go with somebody else, they will. Until then, you guys really need to get over it.
Quote:Came across this today and it made me sad
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/71447...-huge-bust
Just read it....He describes Gabby to a "T".
This guy should have been our GM then. When Mike Shanahan passed over him, I just knew something was wrong with Gabs, Everyone knew the Redskins needed a QB, Our genius former GM traded our 2nd rd. pick just to move up 6 spots in the draft.
I love the old schoolers on here that try to defend the QB and say our next qb will do just as bad with our O line blah blah blah. Thats all BS. A good QB will instanlty make our team MUCH better and entertaining to watch. A good QB makes defense completely change their attack. Do you guys really just think that all the awesome QBs in our league just continue to get lucky and get awesome O lines? Well heres a news flash, ITS NOT THE O LINES that make the QB good. The good QBs make the O Lines look good, since they actually throw passes with a quick relase often before receivers even get open. Put Gabbert behind NE or DEN starting O line and see what happens.
How about Terrele Prior? Anybody? Anybody? But ohhh the Raiders o line was SOOO bad. Everybody thought the Raiders were toast this year, now all of a sudden they look fun to watch and will win some games this year (maybe 8-8). TP comes in and the whole team puts up more better stats. Thats just how it works. Good QBs keep the chains moving, which wears out other teams D, and gives our D a rest. This is all so obvious I can't believe I'm explaining it right now.
Quote:Don't you guys ever get tired of whining about the same thing, over and over every week? You guys act like your crying about our bad QB situation is going to change something. If/when Gus and Caldwell want to go with somebody else, they will. Until then, you guys really need to get over it.
I get tired of seeing it every week. I'm scratching my head wondering why the coaches don't put just ANYBODY aside from gabbert/henne at the QB position. Anybody could do just as worse. Give stanzi a go.
Gabbert sucks and I won't get over it till he's gone.
Quote:Anybody could do just as worse.
I like what you did there, I like it alot.
Seriously though, +100000000000000000000000 so true. Anybody can play QB this bad so why not trying anybody out? If it gets worse cut him. I'd be ok with a new starting QB every week until one shows some potential.