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Quote:Who do you think will get cut at the end of the year because of bad contracts Gene handed, age, or just haven't lived up to expectations?


1. <b>Mercedes Lewis</b>- His base salary jumps from 4.2 mil to 6.7 mil for the next 2 years and he def. isn't worth almost 7 million a year in base salary, Antonio Gates, Tony Gonzalez, and Vernon Davis isn't even making the 8.25 mil cap hit that Lewis would make if we kept him. Rediculous amount of money for Lewis who isn't even that much of a receiving threat. It will cost us only 2.8 mil cap hit in dead money over the next 2 years to cut him. It would be well worth the 2.8 mil cap wit than paying him 16.5 mil over the next couple years.


2. <b>Jeremy Mincey</b>- Same with Lewis his salary jumps from 1.5 mil to 4.5 mil next year. He will cost us 4 mil. cap hit over the next 2 years in dead money or if we keep him it will be 13.5 mil cap hit over the next 2 years. He hasnt played that great either I say he needs to go also.


3. <b>Jason Babin</b>- Babin cap hit goes up from 4.3 mil to 6.1 mil next year. If Babin is cut at the end of the year it will cost us nothing in dead money. Babin is our best DE but he will be 34 and he isnt worth 6 mil a year at this point in his career.


4. <b>Paul Posluszny</b>- Poz has played pretty good for us but next year and 2015 his cap hit goes up to 9.5 mil. If we cut him we would only have 4 mil. in dead money over the next 2 yrs. Is a MLB really worth 19 mil. over the next 2 years? Poz isn't


So if you break it down, you cut these 4 guys at the end of the year it takes 28.5 mil off of our cap space and only 5.4 of that would be dead money in 2014. 2015 would be close to the same because they are all signed though 2015 and salaries and dead money would be close the the same.


I would of put Alu on the list but the way his contract is it would almost be better to keep him next year and cut him in 2015.


Any other players you guys think should be cut at the end of the year?



Thoughts?

 

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/jacksonville-jaguars/
 

 

I agree with the above, I honestly don't see any of the players on the 2014 roster, the contracts don't match the players.
The thing about Mincey is I think he can be a guy who fits on this roster. But he would have to take a paycut to do so. I compare him to a Rob Meier or Paul Spicer type player. But he just makes too much for that role.

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Forget Whataburger, go to Col. Mustard's Phat Burgers in Jax Beach, Poe's Tavern in Atlantic Beach or Jerry's Grill on Atlantic at Hodges.
Quote:Who do you think will get cut at the end of the year because of bad contracts Gene handed, age, or just haven't lived up to expectations?


1. <b>Mercedes Lewis</b>- His base salary jumps from 4.2 mil to 6.7 mil for the next 2 years and he def. isn't worth almost 7 million a year in base salary, Antonio Gates, Tony Gonzalez, and Vernon Davis isn't even making the 8.25 mil cap hit that Lewis would make if we kept him. Rediculous amount of money for Lewis who isn't even that much of a receiving threat. It will cost us only 2.8 mil cap hit in dead money over the next 2 years to cut him. It would be well worth the 2.8 mil cap wit than paying him 16.5 mil over the next couple years.


2. <b>Jeremy Mincey</b>- Same with Lewis his salary jumps from 1.5 mil to 4.5 mil next year. He will cost us 4 mil. cap hit over the next 2 years in dead money or if we keep him it will be 13.5 mil cap hit over the next 2 years. He hasnt played that great either I say he needs to go also.


3. <b>Jason Babin</b>- Babin cap hit goes up from 4.3 mil to 6.1 mil next year. If Babin is cut at the end of the year it will cost us nothing in dead money. Babin is our best DE but he will be 34 and he isnt worth 6 mil a year at this point in his career.


4. <b> Paul Posluszny</b>- Poz has played pretty good for us but next year and 2015 his cap hit goes up to 9.5 mil. If we cut him we would only have 4 mil. in dead money over the next 2 yrs. Is a MLB really worth 19 mil. over the next 2 years? Poz isn't
 

Definitely agree on Lewis and Mincey. Both are ordinary players at their positions, and yes, I know that Lewis is repeatedly called "the best blocking tight end in football", but if blocking's what the Jags want, sign a minimum-salary tackle who can line up at tight end to stand there and not catch passes. Mincey's a great story and has been a solid player in the past, but he's an aging, costly backup on a line that needs youth.

 

Babin remains to be seen. $6M is not a painfully-high price to pay for a solid DE, certainly not the best end on your team. Babin also came into the league at 24 and played sparingly for several years, so he's not as old of a 34 as, say, Tony Brackens would have been. That said, I believe that because of the way the waiver system works for veterans, Babin's contract expires at the end of this year anyway, which could make it a moot point.

 

Don't cut Poz. Period. He's the best player on defense, and its not even close. The salary cap argument is a solid one, but let's not forget that this team is swimming in cap space, and Poz is one of the few irreplaceable veterans who have skill and leadership ability. If anything, the Jags might approach Poz about restructuring.

 

I'd add a few players to the list:

 

MJD - I think his contract expires anyway, but even if it doesn't, let him go. He was a great running back for a long time, but the gas in his tank is expended thanks to injuries and a playing style that is typically reserved for backs who are a few inches taller and 15-20 lbs. heavier. As much as it pains me to say it, the Jaguars handled this type of situation right with Fred Taylor. They saw the decline coming, they grabbed a young back to replace him, and they let him go before he was running on empty. With MJD, the needle's on E, and they don't have anyone who looks as ready to step in and replace him as MJD did to replace Taylor.

 

Gabbert OR Henne - I think one of these two guys stays with the team next year for one reason: insurance. If the Jaguars do grab a QB high in the first round, great. The offensive line still won't be ready for prime time, and throwing Gabbert into the fire three games into his career worked out oh-so-well, didn't it? Let the rookie QB ride the pine for a year while Gabbert or Henne gets squashed. The rookie gets a year to learn and observe, and the Jaguars get an extra year to fix their line without running the risk of destroying their rookie QB. Assuming Henne's contract doesn't expire, I think he'd be the more likely option to stay under this scenario for two reasons. One, if the Jags are drafting a QB to replace Gabbert, it hardly makes sense to keep Gabbert around as the short-term starter. Two, Gabbert will be three years removed from being the tenth overall pick, and there may well be a coach out there willing to give up a fifth or sixth-round pick because he thinks he can fix Gabbert. Might as well get something to show for the investment.

 

Lowery - Bradley's defense requires a center-fielder with great speed at free safety. Lowery's got the instincts for the position, but he's limited by a lack of Earl Thomas-like speed. He's a solid player, but he doesn't look like a fit in Bradley's defense, and he's expensive.

 

Meester's contract expires, and he won't be brought back. He'll probably retire. Rackley's worth keeping around as cheap depth, maybe give him a shot to show something at center in training camp. Also, don't forget that signing high-priced free agents doesn't seem to be Caldwell's MO, at least not until the team is well within contention. I wouldn't count on seeing Brian Cushing, Brian Orakpo, Brandon Browner (who's on the wrong side of 30 anyway) or Jairus Byrd in Jacksonville next year unless we're playing their team.
Quote:Thats what he said but do you really think he should be making more than Gates, Gonzalez, and Davis.  I like Lewis but he def. isn't worth 8.25 mil a year, I would say he is worth maybe half of that.
 

I think it would be insane on his part to ask for that kind of money. I think with a reasonable contract he's worth bringing back. He's one of our best blockers sadly. I would like to see him back seeing how much we need him obviously. But only for the right money.
Quote:Lewis sucks. You could cut him now and won't be missed. 

 

 
 

In my opinion well get to see how valuable his blocking help is this weekend. The offensive line has looked ugly. Also I don't think this team has ever used him like they should. Can we find a good QB to get him the ball too? Not one who throws it 3 feet over his head or down at his shoelaces.  He's 6'6 !! How do we constantly over throw him. I know he's not perfect and had some key drops through his career. Also had nagging injuries which prevents him from even competing. I just feel he never knows where our QB is going to throw it at. Whether its been Blaine or whoever they've all been so inconsistent with where the ball goes. Good QB's put the ball within a certain area not at their ankles or 2 yards behind them.  I believe if he leaves he's gonna flourish on another team with a good QB.
Alot of people saying we need to cut Uche, he has actually been the best player on our oline the last couple of weeks.

"Uche Nwaneri found himself atop the offensive grades for the second straight week despite the poor offensive line play around him. Uche’s solid pass blocking (only 1 QB hurry) helped solidify his rating."

Shocker that Andre Branch actually graded out the highest of all defensive players for the Jags last week on pff. 

 

"Color me surprised to see Andre Branch anywhere near the top of the defensive grades. Branch’s 3 QB hurries netted him a (+1.8) pass rush grade."

Quote:Shocker that Andre Branch actually graded out the highest of all defensive players for the Jags last week on pff. 

 

"Color me surprised to see Andre Branch anywhere near the top of the defensive grades. Branch’s 3 QB hurries netted him a (+1.8) pass rush grade."
 

Where are the sacks though...
Quote:Where are the sacks though...
Sacks would be nice but if you can pressure the QB sometimes that can be just as good as a sack.  He couldn't even pressure the QB last year.
Paying a 2 down middle linebacker with suspect coverage skills $9,500,000.00 a year is not something smart teams do.  I'm hopeful that the Jags new regime will make smart decisions.

Quote:Paying a 2 down middle linebacker with suspect coverage skills $9,500,000.00 a year is not something smart teams do.  I'm hopeful that the Jags new regime will make smart decisions.
Gene Smith paid the wrong players - TE (Lewis), MLB (Poz), when the "smart" teams invest in QB's and pass rushers. 
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 Golden Corral and food is fantastic in the same sentence?
Mincey for sure. Rackley. Probably throw Alualu in there too. . .

A lot of people on here want to keep Poz after this year even thuough his salary jumps up to almost 10 mil. next year and will be the highest paid MLB in the league over guys like Patrick Willis and Navorro Bowman .  Here is his pff grade for the week.  He isnt that good of a LB.  He makes a big play from time to time but he gives up a lot more than he makes.  Once again another bad game for Poz.

 

 

 

Russell Allen (+1.9)

 

Russell Allen has quietly put together a solid year and is now the highest rated 4-3 outside linebacker (+3.5 overall on the year). He was particularly stout in coverage this week allowing only 6 yards on 3 receptions.

 

Paul Posluszny (-3.0),

 

Posluszny had another poor showing in stopping the run – the Rams managed 143 yards and 4 missed tackles despite a lack of talent in the backfield.

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Russell Allen (+1.9)

 

Russell Allen has quietly put together a solid year and is now the highest rated 4-3 outside linebacker (+3.5 overall on the year). He was particularly stout in coverage this week allowing only 6 yards on 3 receptions.

 
 

Anyone else notice Allen make 2 stops behind the line of scrimmage the other day?  He really has gotten better every year.  He's still just a good back-up on many teams, but he's not a liability like he was when forced into the line-up do to injury.  I find it hard not to root for the guy.  Would be cool to see him stick around as the #4 LB.   ( his cap hit is 2.4 mil next year  - only knock against him  - thanks Gene) 

Quote:Anyone else notice Allen make 2 stops behind the line of scrimmage the other day?  He really has gotten better every year.  He's still just a good back-up on many teams, but he's not a liability like he was when forced into the line-up do to injury.  I find it hard not to root for the guy.  Would be cool to see him stick around as the #4 LB.   ( his cap hit is 2.4 mil next year  - only knock against him  - thanks Gene) 
Hes still just a good back up on many teams but he is the highest rated 4-3 outside linebacker (+3.5 overall on the year)?  Makes sense, if he started on the Giants he would probably be there best LB.  Allen has turned into a decent OLB, much better than he was a couple of years ago.
Quote:Who do you think will get cut at the end of the year because of bad contracts Gene handed, age, or just haven't lived up to expectations?


1. <b>Mercedes Lewis</b>- His base salary jumps from 4.2 mil to 6.7 mil for the next 2 years and he def. isn't worth almost 7 million a year in base salary, Antonio Gates, Tony Gonzalez, and Vernon Davis isn't even making the 8.25 mil cap hit that Lewis would make if we kept him. Rediculous amount of money for Lewis who isn't even that much of a receiving threat. It will cost us only 2.8 mil cap hit in dead money over the next 2 years to cut him. It would be well worth the 2.8 mil cap wit than paying him 16.5 mil over the next couple years.


2. <b>Jeremy Mincey</b>- Same with Lewis his salary jumps from 1.5 mil to 4.5 mil next year. He will cost us 4 mil. cap hit over the next 2 years in dead money or if we keep him it will be 13.5 mil cap hit over the next 2 years. He hasnt played that great either I say he needs to go also.


3. <b>Jason Babin</b>- Babin cap hit goes up from 4.3 mil to 6.1 mil next year. If Babin is cut at the end of the year it will cost us nothing in dead money. Babin is our best DE but he will be 34 and he isnt worth 6 mil a year at this point in his career.


4. <b>Paul Posluszny</b>- Poz has played pretty good for us but next year and 2015 his cap hit goes up to 9.5 mil. If we cut him we would only have 4 mil. in dead money over the next 2 yrs. Is a MLB really worth 19 mil. over the next 2 years? Poz isn't


So if you break it down, you cut these 4 guys at the end of the year it takes 28.5 mil off of our cap space and only 5.4 of that would be dead money in 2014. 2015 would be close to the same because they are all signed though 2015 and salaries and dead money would be close the the same.


I would of put Alu on the list but the way his contract is it would almost be better to keep him next year and cut him in 2015.


Any other players you guys think should be cut at the end of the year?



Thoughts?

 

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/jacksonville-jaguars/
 

For me...

 

1.  Gabbert

2.  Prosinski

3.  Rackley

4. Babin

5.  Alualu
Quote:For me...

 

1.  Gabbert

2.  Prosinski

3.  Rackley

4. Babin

5.  Alualu
Prosinski has a blocked punt and 2 or 3 nice hits on ST.  I don't want to see him on defense - but those stats alone should put him further down on your list. 
Quote:For me...

 

1.  Gabbert

2.  Prosinski

3.  Rackley

4. Babin

5.  Alualu
1.  I should of added Gabbert to the list. 

2.  Pros is our best ST player not counting the kickers.  He makes big play almost every week, this week it was a blocked punt.

3.  Rackley has gotten better each week, so its too early to tell on him

4.  Babin will be gone at the end of the year, we wont eat any dead money cutting him.

5.  The way Alu contract is it would probably just be better off to keep him and cut him next year
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