A couple of things that are mind numbing..
1. What this ultimately says is that our entire off-season plan for the QB position has been "Hope and Pray." Regardless of what Blake did this off season to try to get better, there was no plan aside for crossing our fingers the QB play improves.
2. Marrone is positioning this as an open competition now. We have had the same QB room since he has gotten here. What does he think he is going to see that he hasn't seen a hundred times already? They are who they've always been.
(08-21-2017, 10:31 AM)Krayz_Jville_D Wrote: [ -> ] (08-21-2017, 08:50 AM)I am Yoda Wrote: [ -> ]From the NFL.com article cited above: "Kaepernick is a clearly regressing quarterback who has struggled not only with the rudimentary passing elements such as accuracy, anticipation and touch, but also with protections, field vision and decision making."
Colin's a good athlete, but a marginal qb. He isn't worth looking at. Turn off the constant drumbeat of ESPN and their leftist political agenda. Based on football considerations, Kap is not going to help a team as a starter.
are you failing to see that this was written in the 2015 season?
in 2016 Kap put up a 91 QB rating and 16 passing tds and 4 int's in 11 starts
get your facts strait plz, he absolutely would be an upgrade to the trash heap we have at QB right now
well why then will no one pick him up? If he was any good the distraction he really is would't matter if he was an upgrade to any QB needy team...
(08-21-2017, 10:44 AM)Kotite Wrote: [ -> ]A couple of things that are mind numbing..
1. What this ultimately says is that our entire off-season plan for the QB position has been "Hope and Pray." Regardless of what Blake did this off season to try to get better, there was no plan aside for crossing our fingers the QB play improves.
2. Marrone is positioning this as an open competition now. We have had the same QB room since he has gotten here. What does he think he is going to see that he hasn't seen a hundred times already? They are who they've always been.
Maybe he is just trying to give Blake that extra "kick in the rear end" to step it up? IMO that is what is really happening anyway.
(08-21-2017, 11:21 AM)wrong_box Wrote: [ -> ] (08-21-2017, 10:31 AM)Krayz_Jville_D Wrote: [ -> ]are you failing to see that this was written in the 2015 season?
in 2016 Kap put up a 91 QB rating and 16 passing tds and 4 int's in 11 starts
get your facts strait plz, he absolutely would be an upgrade to the trash heap we have at QB right now
well why then will no one pick him up? If he was any good the distraction he really is would't matter if he was an upgrade to any QB needy team...
This eludes those who just want to pummel THIS front office. He's available to every team. They're not exactly beating his door down. Must be the lingering results of that injury that caused Gabbert to start over him, right?
(08-20-2017, 04:59 PM)jtmoney Wrote: [ -> ] (08-20-2017, 04:57 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]Too many fans are satisfied by mediocrity and that's why teams never improve.
When were we mediocre? Please remind me cuz I can't seem to remember.
(08-20-2017, 04:58 PM)B2hibry Wrote: [ -> ]You have to believe he is weighing the entirety of the situation.
And I think he is overplaying the politics side while not putting enough on the fans seeing awful football for 10 years side. If Kap started for us and we were winning, no one would care. He isn't going to kneel anymore. It would be a small fuss right when he was signed and then all anyone would care about is how he played.
I would care very much if this organization went out and signed Kap. For starters, he isn't that good himself; but more importantly, I absolutely see no wisdom in bringing someone into this team who would be divisive... and I think that's the reason that most owners don't want him on their team either.
There are bigger issues in life than football.
(08-21-2017, 11:21 AM)wrong_box Wrote: [ -> ] (08-21-2017, 10:31 AM)Krayz_Jville_D Wrote: [ -> ]are you failing to see that this was written in the 2015 season?
in 2016 Kap put up a 91 QB rating and 16 passing tds and 4 int's in 11 starts
get your facts strait plz, he absolutely would be an upgrade to the trash heap we have at QB right now
well why then will no one pick him up? If he was any good the distraction he really is would't matter if he was an upgrade to any QB needy team...
Its pretty obvioud why.. have u been living under a rock? Also, few teams are as bad at qb as we once a [BLEEP] gain are
RG3 is available if we're going with a heavy run offense ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
(08-21-2017, 12:13 PM)Krayz_Jville_D Wrote: [ -> ] (08-21-2017, 11:21 AM)wrong_box Wrote: [ -> ]well why then will no one pick him up? If he was any good the distraction he really is would't matter if he was an upgrade to any QB needy team...
Its pretty obvioud why.. have u been living under a rock? Also, few teams are as bad at qb as we once a [BLEEP] gain are
If teams will take Vick with his dog fighting episode, a player voicing political views would be snapped up if he was any good
(08-20-2017, 05:18 PM)jtmoney Wrote: [ -> ] (08-20-2017, 05:17 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]A web based journalist likes to whine about Kaepernick?? Say it isn't so!!
That's what dozens of these clowns are doing to generate clicks currently.
LOL
Guys - there's no rule that says you need to start a thread every time some joker says something about the Jags' QB situation.
We've got three marginally talented QBs. Do we really need a fourth?
I guess it depends on if you think Kap is the same as what we have which I don't and others don't. Bring in football players. Why wouldn't you?
I stated that in the post you quoted. We have three sub-par QBs. A fourth one isn't going to fix anything.
Is Brandon Allen categorized as sub-par because of his ability, or lack of experience? Honest question. The guy has such a small body of work it's hard to make a determination if he has potential as a starter.
(08-21-2017, 01:04 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]Is Brandon Allen categorized as sub-par because of his ability, or lack of experience? Honest question. The guy has such a small body of work it's hard to make a determination if he has potential as a starter.
He's more "unproven" than "sub-par."
But I've watched his preseason work this year and last year. He's had a number of completions against the "threes" that would likely have been INTs vs the "ones." I'm hopeful for him.
(08-21-2017, 12:28 PM)wrong_box Wrote: [ -> ] (08-21-2017, 12:13 PM)Krayz_Jville_D Wrote: [ -> ]Its pretty obvioud why.. have u been living under a rock? Also, few teams are as bad at qb as we once a [BLEEP] gain are
If teams will take Vick with his dog fighting episode, a player voicing political views would be snapped up if he was any good
Again you are wrong. The ravens have come out and said they would have signed him already except their fans made it known they would be pissed.. fact is kap had a 91 qb rating and a 4:1 td to into ratio last year on a way worse offense than ours. That is the facts. Those facts show he was better than bortles on a worse team last year
(08-21-2017, 01:35 PM)Krayz_Jville_D Wrote: [ -> ] (08-21-2017, 12:28 PM)wrong_box Wrote: [ -> ]If teams will take Vick with his dog fighting episode, a player voicing political views would be snapped up if he was any good
Again you are wrong. The ravens have come out and said they would have signed him already except their fans made it known they would be pissed.. fact is kap had a 91 qb rating and a 4:1 td to into ratio last year on a way worse offense than ours. That is the facts. Those facts show he was better than bortles on a worse team last year
You don't think the Ravens might be using the fans as a human shield to protect them from the protests by those who demand that some team sign him, otherwise every team is racist? You've got people out there already saying this in an effort to almost threaten some team to take Kaepernick or face the consequences. If Baltimore says "We would have signed him, but our fans..." it's most likely because saying he's not good enough to hold a clipboard on their roster would bring the fire down on their heads.
Kaepernick and that 91 QB rating are the most overrated stats to prop up. Sorry, but he didn't wind up in the doghouse in SF because of his political views. He doesn't represent a FOOTBALL upgrade that's worth the headache for this team. If he did, he'd be on a roster somewhere already. It's not like there's a glut of QB talent out there just jamming up rosters.
(08-20-2017, 04:22 PM)BklynJag Wrote: [ -> ]@mikesilver Right now the Jags' QB strategy seems to be: Hope Bortles has a good game Thursday, or pray Henne improves steeply and suddenly...
He also said Coughlin is the reason we are not bringing in Kap.
Man, team is in disarray and we still in the preseason. It's baffling to me why no other QB was brought in during the off-season.
Silver is a political activist posing as a journalist. if Kaep were a blue-chip talent, a team would've brought him in by now, but as with Tebow even lesser talents like Henne are much more attractive minus all the baggage. It's comparable to Ray Rice. Sure, he was probably better than a lot of backs in the league after his domestic violence, but he wasn't worth the baggage. The irony here is that if sports journalists were to foment a successful NFL boycott, their jobs would end too.
(08-21-2017, 11:40 AM)knarnn Wrote: [ -> ]Maybe he is just trying to give Blake that extra "kick in the rear end" to step it up? IMO that is what is really happening anyway.
This. Exactly. Barring injury, BB5 will be starting week one at tinhorns.
I will bet two internet cookies.
(08-21-2017, 01:44 PM)FBT Wrote: [ -> ] (08-21-2017, 01:35 PM)Krayz_Jville_D Wrote: [ -> ]Again you are wrong. The ravens have come out and said they would have signed him already except their fans made it known they would be pissed.. fact is kap had a 91 qb rating and a 4:1 td to into ratio last year on a way worse offense than ours. That is the facts. Those facts show he was better than bortles on a worse team last year
You don't think the Ravens might be using the fans as a human shield to protect them from the protests by those who demand that some team sign him, otherwise every team is racist? You've got people out there already saying this in an effort to almost threaten some team to take Kaepernick or face the consequences. If Baltimore says "We would have signed him, but our fans..." it's most likely because saying he's not good enough to hold a clipboard on their roster would bring the fire down on their heads.
Kaepernick and that 91 QB rating are the most overrated stats to prop up. Sorry, but he didn't wind up in the doghouse in SF because of his political views. He doesn't represent a FOOTBALL upgrade that's worth the headache for this team. If he did, he'd be on a roster somewhere already. It's not like there's a glut of QB talent out there just jamming up rosters.
I could be wrong but I thought I remember reading that the ravens put out like a poll or a feeler out to the public to see their reaction and that the reaction was really negative towards his signing. If that is true then they weren't just making it up.
Also, I am not implying Kap is the answer or our future or even good... however, he IS better than Bortles at this point and IS better than Henne. We know what we have, and what we have is trash that has never won. Kap has won before, brings an element with his legs that CAN give defenses fits, and has shown the ability to atleast throw TD's and limit interceptions, something bortles has not shown the ability to do
16 and 4 is better than anything bortles is capable of... acting like Kap is beneath us in any way just once again shows that you guys still dont realize how bad this franchise is
(08-21-2017, 01:35 PM)Krayz_Jville_D Wrote: [ -> ] (08-21-2017, 12:28 PM)wrong_box Wrote: [ -> ]If teams will take Vick with his dog fighting episode, a player voicing political views would be snapped up if he was any good
Again you are wrong. The ravens have come out and said they would have signed him already except their fans made it known they would be pissed.. fact is kap had a 91 qb rating and a 4:1 td to into ratio last year on a way worse offense than ours. That is the facts. Those facts show he was better than bortles on a worse team last year
LINK? Pretty sure that's not exactly what they said...Kap had a good year one year and sucked the rest...He's not an upgrade to what we already have
(08-21-2017, 01:04 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]Is Brandon Allen categorized as sub-par because of his ability, or lack of experience? Honest question. The guy has such a small body of work it's hard to make a determination if he has potential as a starter.
Good Question ....
Final Year - College Stats below:
Allen 244-370 for 3440 yds 30 tds 8 ints (vs SEC defense)
Bortles 259-382 for 3581 yards 25 tds 9 ints (vs AAC defense)
They essentially have similar college stats so i'd have to think Brandon's size 6'-2" 210 LBs prevented him from getting the opportunity that Bortles got at 6'4" 230 LBs coming out of college.
(08-21-2017, 03:43 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ] (08-21-2017, 01:04 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]Is Brandon Allen categorized as sub-par because of his ability, or lack of experience? Honest question. The guy has such a small body of work it's hard to make a determination if he has potential as a starter.
Good Question ....
Final Year - College Stats below:
Allen 244-370 for 3440 yds 30 tds 8 ints (vs SEC defense)
Bortles 259-382 for 3581 yards 25 tds 9 ints (vs AAC defense)
The essentially have similar college stats so i'd have to think Brandon's size 6'-2" 210 LBs prevented him from getting the opportunity that Bortles got at 6'4" 230 LBs coming out of college.
That is good info and so far for one hasn't translated to the NFL..the duck thrower.