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(01-31-2018, 09:51 PM)TrivialPursuit Wrote: [ -> ]Yea, Bradley didn't have the chutzpah to lead anyone to anything except ping pong tables and ice cream sundaes.

He didn't get beyond soft serve.

(01-31-2018, 07:19 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-31-2018, 05:34 PM)JNev Wrote: [ -> ]Okaaaayyyyyyy then

https://www.footballdb.com/leaders/caree...tdintratio

Ok fine, look at this list and tell me it's not silly to compare TD:INT between eras. Bortles is among the worst of the active QBs in it, and he is still top 50 all time. Steve Young is the only one in the top dozen that wasn't active within the last 3 years. All timers like Dalton, Flacco, Tannehill, Jameis, and Schaub are in the top 40 all time. It's simply the worst stat to try to use to compare players between eras.

Look at this quote from footballperspective: "Consider this: just ten quarterbacks in NFL history have a career TD/INT ratio better than the 2015 league average! Those quarterbacks are Aaron Rodgers, Russell Wilson, Tom Brady, Steve Young, Peyton Manning, Tony Romo, Drew Brees, Philip Rivers, Donovan McNabb, and Joe Montana." Literally from every QB who ever played only Steve Young, Joe Montana, and Donovan McNabb were retired QBs better than the 2015 league average in TD:INT.

My point wasn’t that there are no distinct Eras it was that those guys are in enough of a similar “era” it’s not an unfair comparison. This isn’t a Namath to Watson comparison

(01-31-2018, 05:56 PM)DragonFury Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-31-2018, 05:43 PM)Rico Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah, right.  They were talking about his leadership skills long before the season started.  But you keep pretending like you know better.

Pretending, being the key phrase.

You know what leadership without any other relevant skills gets you? Four years of Gus Bradley. Bradley was a terrible head coach but because he was a good leader he got everyone to buy into a philosophy that doomed the team to the basement of the NFL. Remember all those interviews about how great a guy Bradley was and how players were buying into the "just get better" idea? A player or coach can produce great results without being a great leader but it doesn't work the other way around.

So far off here...Bradley and leader are at opposite ends of the Leadership spectrum.  And head coaches cannot produce great results (getting the most out of every player and winning) without being a great leader.

(01-31-2018, 05:56 PM)DragonFury Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-31-2018, 05:43 PM)Rico Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah, right.  They were talking about his leadership skills long before the season started.  But you keep pretending like you know better.

Pretending, being the key phrase.

You know what leadership without any other relevant skills gets you? Four years of Gus Bradley. Bradley was a terrible head coach but because he was a good leader he got everyone to buy into a philosophy that doomed the team to the basement of the NFL. Remember all those interviews about how great a guy Bradley was and how players were buying into the "just get better" idea? A player or coach can produce great results without being a great leader but it doesn't work the other way around.

If you think Gus Bradley was a good leader, it explains a lot.  Keep reaching to try to prove an incorrect point.

(01-31-2018, 05:24 PM)JNev Wrote: [ -> ]

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(01-31-2018, 05:18 PM)MoJagFan Wrote: [ -> ]Brees and Rivers are amazing outliers in the grand scheme of the QB position.  Honestly when you look at their mechanics and passes it is amazing they are as productive as they are.

So Brees, Rivers, Smith, and Eli are all outliers? That's a lot of outliers

Brees and Rivers are outliers with their mechanics.

Have you all still not learned. no matter who qb is Jags will never make it to super bowl while in Jacksonville. Everyone knows nfl hates the city of Jacksonville. When the team moves to london then all of a sudden Jags will be alloewed in the Super bowl.

(01-26-2018, 01:14 PM)TrivialPursuit Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-26-2018, 01:09 PM)TheSchmidt Wrote: [ -> ]its alarming the people who don't realize how much better Cousins is than Bortles

It's alarming how many people think Cousins is anything special. He is not going to deserve the money he will get and I have a feeling once he gets the money he will be done. Matt Cassel

Its alarming how many people don't understand the salary cap...

(02-01-2018, 09:34 AM)snowwolf776 Wrote: [ -> ]Have you all still not learned. no matter who qb is Jags will never make it to super bowl while in Jacksonville. Everyone knows nfl hates the city of Jacksonville. When the team moves to london then all of a sudden Jags will be alloewed in the Super bowl.

Don't sweat it Wolf man! 

It' like the wise Vince Young once said when asked if he would return for his senior year after winning the National Championship...

"OH, WE BE BACK!"



(Vince would declare for the draft just days later, but we're gonna choose to ignore that part.)