(04-28-2018, 06:08 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ]Awesome pick. Very athletic thumper with a great work ethic.
The SAM competition will be Jacobs and Brown. Jacobs profiles much better there and is real good at shedding blocks. Blair is still quite talented though so I wouldn't rule him out.
I doubt he will be in the mix for a starting position this year. He's a developmental guy.
The physical tools are there, but right now he lacks the instincts and proper skills and techniques to be a starter.
I think if he sees the field this year it will be on special teams or as a DPR in some defensive packages.
He's definitely at SAM. Marrone explained that right now Blaire is our starting SAM, but later said that Leon will get a look at SAM.
That said, it was even more clear on the draft selection call when Caldwell told him directly, "You're going to bust your BLEEP on special teams, and play some SAM backer for us."
(04-28-2018, 07:52 PM)Predator Wrote: [ -> ] (04-28-2018, 06:08 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ]Awesome pick. Very athletic thumper with a great work ethic.
The SAM competition will be Jacobs and Brown. Jacobs profiles much better there and is real good at shedding blocks. Blair is still quite talented though so I wouldn't rule him out.
I doubt he will be in the mix for a starting position this year. He's a developmental guy.
The physical tools are there, but right now he lacks the instincts and proper skills and techniques to be a starter.
I think if he sees the field this year it will be on special teams or as a DPR in some defensive packages.
I'd say he will be.
He's actually pretty talented at shedding blocks and keying in on his run fits. For a Sam LB in our schemes that's the meat and bones of the job. He's also a very good blitzer so we can work different packages off that.
Won't be surprised at all if he starts week 1.
(04-28-2018, 07:54 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ] (04-28-2018, 07:52 PM)Predator Wrote: [ -> ]I doubt he will be in the mix for a starting position this year. He's a developmental guy.
The physical tools are there, but right now he lacks the instincts and proper skills and techniques to be a starter.
I think if he sees the field this year it will be on special teams or as a DPR in some defensive packages.
I'd say he will be.
He's actually pretty talented at shedding blocks and keying in on his run fits. For a Sam LB in our schemes that's the meat and bones of the job. He's also a very good blitzer so we can work different packages off that.
Won't be surprised at all if he starts week 1.
Might as well ask again, just in general, anyone know why he stuck around that late?
Based on his physical attributes and the way people talk about this guy it sounds like he should have gone higher.
He certainly has the weight/size you're looking for in SAM.
(04-28-2018, 07:54 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ] (04-28-2018, 07:52 PM)Predator Wrote: [ -> ]I doubt he will be in the mix for a starting position this year. He's a developmental guy.
The physical tools are there, but right now he lacks the instincts and proper skills and techniques to be a starter.
I think if he sees the field this year it will be on special teams or as a DPR in some defensive packages.
I'd say he will be.
He's actually pretty talented at shedding blocks and keying in on his run fits. For a Sam LB in our schemes that's the meat and bones of the job. He's also a very good blitzer so we can work different packages off that.
Won't be surprised at all if he starts week 1.
If he was everything you say he is at this point, he wouldn't be sitting there in the 7th rd.
His lack of instincts and ability to read and react is his biggest knock and makes him a liability in the run game.
The ability to do these things isn't something that develops overnight if they even develop at all.
(04-28-2018, 08:14 PM)Achilles Wrote: [ -> ] (04-28-2018, 07:54 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ]I'd say he will be.
He's actually pretty talented at shedding blocks and keying in on his run fits. For a Sam LB in our schemes that's the meat and bones of the job. He's also a very good blitzer so we can work different packages off that.
Won't be surprised at all if he starts week 1.
Might as well ask again, just in general, anyone know why he stuck around that late?
Based on his physical attributes and the way people talk about this guy it sounds like he should have gone higher.
One of the networks had him listed as the mythical "edge" position, meaning they saw him as a tweener pass rusher rather than pure LB.
All ya'll doubting Blair Brown gonna be eatin' crow by season's end.
(04-28-2018, 08:20 PM)Predator Wrote: [ -> ] (04-28-2018, 07:54 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ]I'd say he will be.
He's actually pretty talented at shedding blocks and keying in on his run fits. For a Sam LB in our schemes that's the meat and bones of the job. He's also a very good blitzer so we can work different packages off that.
Won't be surprised at all if he starts week 1.
If he was everything you say he is at this point, he wouldn't be sitting there in the 7th rd.
His lack of instincts and ability to read and react is his biggest knock and makes him a liability in the run game.
The ability to do these things isn't something that develops overnight if they even develop at all.
Every player has flaws. The reason Jacobs is in the 7th round is becuade he isn't very good in coverage, gets caught out by PA, and can be overly aggressive.
His blocking shedding , run fits and blitzing are all starter level traits he has. Which is why he will be in competition with Brown for the Sam spot.
(04-28-2018, 08:14 PM)Achilles Wrote: [ -> ] (04-28-2018, 07:54 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ]I'd say he will be.
He's actually pretty talented at shedding blocks and keying in on his run fits. For a Sam LB in our schemes that's the meat and bones of the job. He's also a very good blitzer so we can work different packages off that.
Won't be surprised at all if he starts week 1.
Might as well ask again, just in general, anyone know why he stuck around that late?
Based on his physical attributes and the way people talk about this guy it sounds like he should have gone higher.
He doesnt't have good instincts and is slow to diagnose and react to plays. Traits that are often "either you have it or you don't" type. The physical tools are elite if he can ever mentally catch up to the speed of the game.
He will require a lot of work at the mental aspects of the game to become a starter, but even if he just makes it as a special teams player, it would represent good value with the pick.
Born in Nigeria, that's kind of cool
(04-28-2018, 07:06 PM)knarnn Wrote: [ -> ]Well he definitely has a future in bodybuilding if the NFL doesn’t work out. They said he played a little fullback too. We needed a new ripped Greg Jones style enforcer on the team.
I miss Greg Jones for sure. He was a beast.
(04-28-2018, 08:28 PM)Predator Wrote: [ -> ] (04-28-2018, 08:14 PM)Achilles Wrote: [ -> ]Might as well ask again, just in general, anyone know why he stuck around that late?
Based on his physical attributes and the way people talk about this guy it sounds like he should have gone higher.
He doesnt't have good instincts and is slow to diagnose and react to plays. Traits that are often "either you have it or you don't" type. The physical tools are elite if he can ever mentally catch up to the speed of the game.
He will require a lot of work at the mental aspects of the game to become a starter, but even if he just makes it as a special teams player, it would represent good value with the pick.
In the pass game sure. In the run nah, I like what he brings there. I'd prefer to let Blair brown play there personally.
That's what the competition will be in camp.
(04-28-2018, 08:28 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ] (04-28-2018, 08:20 PM)Predator Wrote: [ -> ]If he was everything you say he is at this point, he wouldn't be sitting there in the 7th rd.
His lack of instincts and ability to read and react is his biggest knock and makes him a liability in the run game.
The ability to do these things isn't something that develops overnight if they even develop at all.
Every player has flaws. The reason Jacobs is in the 7th round is becuade he isn't very good in coverage, gets caught out by PA, and can be overly aggressive.
His blocking shedding , run fits and blitzing are all starter level traits he has. Which is why he will be in competition with Brown for the Sam spot.
People don't drop to the 7th rd with his physical abilities if those were their only flaws.
He will have to show much more on defense than he did in college or excel at special teams to make the roster.
(04-28-2018, 08:38 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ] (04-28-2018, 08:28 PM)Predator Wrote: [ -> ]He doesnt't have good instincts and is slow to diagnose and react to plays. Traits that are often "either you have it or you don't" type. The physical tools are elite if he can ever mentally catch up to the speed of the game.
He will require a lot of work at the mental aspects of the game to become a starter, but even if he just makes it as a special teams player, it would represent good value with the pick.
In the pass game sure. In the run nah, I like what he brings there. I'd prefer to let Blair brown play there personally.
That's what the competition will be in camp.
He wouldn't drop to the 7th if coverage was his only issue considering Sam LBs often come off the field or are used to rush the passer in pass situations.
He struggles with things you may not be able to teach. That is why he was still there in the 7th.
(04-28-2018, 08:42 PM)Predator Wrote: [ -> ] (04-28-2018, 08:28 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ]Every player has flaws. The reason Jacobs is in the 7th round is becuade he isn't very good in coverage, gets caught out by PA, and can be overly aggressive.
His blocking shedding , run fits and blitzing are all starter level traits he has. Which is why he will be in competition with Brown for the Sam spot.
People don't drop to the 7th rd with his physical abilities if those were their only flaws.
He will have to show much more on defense than he did in college or excel at special teams to make the roster.
(04-28-2018, 08:38 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ]In the pass game sure. In the run nah, I like what he brings there. I'd prefer to let Blair brown play there personally.
That's what the competition will be in camp.
He wouldn't drop to the 7th if coverage was his only issue considering Sam LBs often come off the field or are used to rush the passer in pass situations.
He struggles with things you may not be able to teach. That is why he was still there in the 7th.
Coverage isn't his only issue though. As I listed above. And yeah Sams come off the field? Not sure what you are trying to argue here.
(04-28-2018, 08:42 PM)Predator Wrote: [ -> ] (04-28-2018, 08:28 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ]Every player has flaws. The reason Jacobs is in the 7th round is becuade he isn't very good in coverage, gets caught out by PA, and can be overly aggressive.
His blocking shedding , run fits and blitzing are all starter level traits he has. Which is why he will be in competition with Brown for the Sam spot.
People don't drop to the 7th rd with his physical abilities if those were their only flaws.
He will have to show much more on defense than he did in college or excel at special teams to make the roster.
(04-28-2018, 08:38 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ]In the pass game sure. In the run nah, I like what he brings there. I'd prefer to let Blair brown play there personally.
That's what the competition will be in camp.
He wouldn't drop to the 7th if coverage was his only issue considering Sam LBs often come off the field or are used to rush the passer in pass situations.
He struggles with things you may not be able to teach. That is why he was still there in the 7th.
It's a passing league now. Players the league deems 2 down players aren't valuable at all.
(04-28-2018, 09:02 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ] (04-28-2018, 08:42 PM)Predator Wrote: [ -> ]People don't drop to the 7th rd with his physical abilities if those were their only flaws.
He will have to show much more on defense than he did in college or excel at special teams to make the roster.
He wouldn't drop to the 7th if coverage was his only issue considering Sam LBs often come off the field or are used to rush the passer in pass situations.
He struggles with things you may not be able to teach. That is why he was still there in the 7th.
Coverage isn't his only issue though. As I listed above. And yeah Sams come off the field? Not sure what you are trying to argue here.
You said coverage was his main liability. So why would 32 teams pass on a "day one starter" for 6-7 rounds if his biggest liability is something he would rarely be asked to do in the first place?
I know coverage isn't his only issue. He has poor instincts against the run also which is why he went in the 7th rd.
I hope one day he becomes a perennial pro bowler, but with his current level of development, the odds of him being a starter this year are astronomically small.
(04-28-2018, 09:22 PM)Predator Wrote: [ -> ] (04-28-2018, 09:02 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ]Coverage isn't his only issue though. As I listed above. And yeah Sams come off the field? Not sure what you are trying to argue here.
You said coverage was his main liability. So why would 32 teams pass on a "day one starter" for 6-7 rounds if his biggest liability is something he would rarely be asked to do in the first place?
I know coverage isn't his only issue. He has poor instincts against the run also which is why he went in the 7th rd.
I hope one day he becomes a perennial pro bowler, but with his current level of development, the odds of him being a starter this year are astronomically small.
No I said coverage, playaction, and being too aggressive were his main liabilities. Which they are. Also, I said him and Blair brown will be in competition for the starting SAM job. Which they are.
Which games do you think were his worst games with his run fits and reads?
Based on our personnel the odds of becoming a starter are not astronomically small.
This dude looks like he curls school busses.