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(10-12-2018, 03:06 PM)JagFanFirst Wrote: [ -> ]Hope Walker can play.

Walker and Flowers are the equivalent to hot garbage and hot manure. Both stink! There were no good options, but Will Beatty, Austin Pasztor, Alex Boone or even Joke would've been better options.
(10-12-2018, 06:56 PM)jessepeck1213 Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-12-2018, 04:50 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]That's weird, I've seen this exact phrase three times now today. Where is this narrative coming from?

He is 60th percentile in height, 64th percentile in arm length, and 32nd percentile in hand size. He's barely above average in size, if that. He also isn't a rare athlete if anyone tries to go with that angle.

Hes 6'6 330 and he carries it damn well. He also put up 37 reps at the combine. That's a rare size and power combi

And it means nothing when he has an NFL pass rusher in front of him.
I wonder how much of it is a lazy/work ethic thing? Probably quite a bit. I still remember this from the post game conference. He obviously isn't putting in the work in the film room.

https://twitter.com/art_stapleton/status...7606793217
(10-12-2018, 08:34 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]I wonder how much of it is a lazy/work ethic thing? Probably quite a bit. I still remember this from the post game conference. He obviously isn't putting in the world in the film room.

https://twitter.com/art_stapleton/status...7606793217

I swear I was wondering the EXACT same thing.

How could a guy with his physical tools fail so spectacularly?

He got good coaching.

I don't recall any serious injuries that hindered his ability to play.

Heck, I don't even recall any substance abuse issues with him.
The Flowers signing certainly smacks of desperation to get bodies on the depth chart at tackle.

I'm just hoping Flaherty and Hackett have some plans to give some help to whoever starts. Hopefully they adjust the game-plan a bit from week to week to limit Blake's vulnerability from that side.
I seem to recall them experimenting with Cann at LT during camp a couple of years ago. If it gets bad enough for the team to try him at LT again, I wonder if Flowers could kick inside to G.
(10-12-2018, 08:57 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ]I seem to recall them experimenting with Cann at LT during camp a couple of years ago.  If it gets bad enough for the team to try him at LT again, I wonder if Flowers could kick inside to G.

Early on in this season Marrone said that Linder, or Cann could play LT if needed.
Wow.

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(10-12-2018, 02:43 PM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: [ -> ]Lol, Caldwell blows

This is the equivalent of the welfare line shopping.  Just got cut by the 1-5 Giants.
(10-12-2018, 07:32 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ]I wonder why they chose Flowers over Joeckel.  Are they thinking that at least with his bulk, he at least may be able to run block?

The fact this discussion exists on the board is cringe worthy.


I'm thinking Coughlin knows him a bit more having been his HC for a couple years, and that there would be even more turmoil and bad mouthing among fans if Joeckel returned.

(10-12-2018, 08:39 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-12-2018, 08:34 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]I wonder how much of it is a lazy/work ethic thing? Probably quite a bit. I still remember this from the post game conference. He obviously isn't putting in the world in the film room.

https://twitter.com/art_stapleton/status...7606793217

I swear I was wondering the EXACT same thing.

How could a guy with his physical tools fail so spectacularly?

He got good coaching.

I don't recall any serious injuries that hindered his ability to play.

Heck, I don't even recall any substance abuse issues with him.


Plus it's not like he's been learning the game on the sidelines. Flowers have been a 16-game starter since entering the league in 2015.
(10-12-2018, 09:48 PM)Jags02 Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-12-2018, 07:32 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ]I wonder why they chose Flowers over Joeckel.  Are they thinking that at least with his bulk, he at least may be able to run block?

The fact this discussion exists on the board is cringe worthy.


I'm thinking Coughlin knows him a bit more having been his HC for a couple years, and that there would be even more turmoil and bad mouthing among fans if Joeckel returned.


I think he figured wrong. As bad as Joekel was, Flowers is worse. Quite a bit worse. He's like, Ephraim Salaam bad.
(10-12-2018, 10:48 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-12-2018, 09:48 PM)Jags02 Wrote: [ -> ]I'm thinking Coughlin knows him a bit more having been his HC for a couple years, and that there would be even more turmoil and bad mouthing among fans if Joeckel returned.


I think he figured wrong. As bad as Joekel was, Flowers is worse. Quite a bit worse. He's like, Ephraim Salaam bad.


He can't be as bad as Ephraim "Holding" Salaam.
Woooow! How do u sign a guy that has nothing but tape of getting embarrassed. They even saw it first hand week one. How do they rationalize all the tape on him. Surely there was a body on someone's practice squad that couldn't do any worse.
(10-12-2018, 11:05 PM)Jags02 Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-12-2018, 10:48 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]I think he figured wrong. As bad as Joekel was, Flowers is worse. Quite a bit worse. He's like, Ephraim Salaam bad.


He can't be as bad as Ephraim "Holding" Salaam.

If he's not as bad, he's darn close. Ironically, the Jags have had both the best and the worst LT's of any teams I have ever seen in my lifetime. Tony Boselli was the best and Salaam was the worst.
Oh, the calamity! I kind of missed this board being in meltdown mode and parts of this thread reminded me of one of my favorite South Park moments:

(10-12-2018, 02:17 PM)JagDelRio Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/RapSheet?ref_src=tws...r%5Eauthor

Ereck Floqers signs 1 year deal.

Train wreck in slow motion about to happen.
(10-12-2018, 11:50 PM)temporaryname Wrote: [ -> ]Oh, the calamity! I kind of missed this board being in meltdown mode and parts of this thread reminded me of one of my favorite South Park moments:


Bravo, one of my favorites too

Chill out everyone, he's a week 6 pickup due to injury, we didn't trade for him, spend draft picks or waste cap. TC and the coaches know him and will see what he has to offer. Also, where is this endless list of quality LT's just sitting about? A lot of average LT's getting paid crazy money due to that. The O line is becoming the weakest position with true quality depth across the league.

Yes, anyone who has watched a Giants game has seen Flowers get beat but we have to get lucky with a pickup at some point?!
(10-13-2018, 01:15 AM)JagFan81 Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-12-2018, 11:50 PM)temporaryname Wrote: [ -> ]Oh, the calamity! I kind of missed this board being in meltdown mode and parts of this thread reminded me of one of my favorite South Park moments:


Bravo, one of my favorites too

Chill out everyone, he's a week 6 pickup due to injury, we didn't trade for him, spend draft picks or waste cap. TC and the coaches know him and will see what he has to offer. Also, where is this endless list of quality LT's just sitting about? A lot of average LT's getting paid crazy money due to that. The O line is becoming the weakest position with true quality depth across the league.

Yes, anyone who has watched a Giants game has seen Flowers get beat but we have to get lucky with a pickup at some point?!

The way the College game is currently being played, it's completely destroying OL prospects at the NFL level.

Joe Thomas is probably the last elite NFL OT we'll ever see, unless the college game completely changes in the near future.
Is this a joke? Its not funny!!!
Well, he could play better here. Sometimes with the right motivation, the right circumstances and learning how to bend ones legs; one could become serviceable.
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