(10-22-2018, 06:11 PM)Predator Wrote: [ -> ] (10-22-2018, 05:31 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ]I wouldn't call letting him start against the Eagles accountable , his play doesn't warrant it.
I can see Blake playing well against the Eagles in London and then stinking it up over the last half of the season, likely getting benched again.
Benching the guy who has struggled working under the most adverse conditions of anyone on the team while letting the healthy pro bowl laden side of the ball who are also struggling slide, wouldn't be sending a message of accountability.
That is a valid argument.
Charles was released as well lol. I bet he regrets that decision now... Come to a contender he said lol
Speaking of Charles' release. Does that mean we have an open spot on the roster (did I miss something else?)? Maybe looking to bring in another QB or Olineman?
(10-22-2018, 06:00 PM)Krayz_Jville_D Wrote: [ -> ]LOL
well if the locker room wasnt lost before, IT CERTAINLY WILL BE NOW!
anyone with a brain saw a better, albeit still not great, QB in Kessler
if the team announced we are just tanking, which I know they cant, I'd be fine with this as blake gives us our best chance to LOSE, but they genuinely are going with Blake AND try to win at the same time
this is why we will FOREVER be right there with the browns and raiders as complete LAUGHING STOCKS
the fans dont deserve this [BLEEP], but the organization DOES deserve this product and trash
Dude.
Chill.
No one is happy to lose, it sucks.
But I think football is affecting you more than is psychologically healthy
(10-22-2018, 06:11 PM)Predator Wrote: [ -> ] (10-22-2018, 05:31 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ]I wouldn't call letting him start against the Eagles accountable , his play doesn't warrant it.
I can see Blake playing well against the Eagles in London and then stinking it up over the last half of the season, likely getting benched again.
Benching the guy who has struggled working under the most adverse conditions of anyone on the team while letting the healthy pro bowl laden side of the ball who are also struggling slide, wouldn't be sending a message of accountability.
The defense has played at a well above average level this year. Blake has played like one of the worst QBs in football.
Stop giving him excuses.
(10-22-2018, 06:40 PM)jvillejagsn1 Wrote: [ -> ]Charles was released as well lol. I bet he regrets that decision now... Come to a contender he said lol
Speaking of Charles' release. Does that mean we have an open spot on the roster (did I miss something else?)? Maybe looking to bring in another QB or Olineman?
He was released so jags could sighn a LB off thier own pratice squad.
here is a link to it.
https://www.jaguars.com/news/day-after-w...s-a-chance
(10-22-2018, 06:49 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ] (10-22-2018, 06:11 PM)Predator Wrote: [ -> ]Benching the guy who has struggled working under the most adverse conditions of anyone on the team while letting the healthy pro bowl laden side of the ball who are also struggling slide, wouldn't be sending a message of accountability.
The defense has played at a well above average level this year. Blake has played like one of the worst QBs in football.
Stop giving him excuses.
The defense hasn't played well since the injuries on offense piled up to a critical state.
That's why there is fighting in the locker room. It has nothing to do with Bortles. It's the fact that some players on the defense, which is healthy and the backbone of this team, haven't stepped at a time when the team needed them the most and guys on that squad are demanding accountability from them and theirselves.
(10-22-2018, 07:06 PM)Predator Wrote: [ -> ] (10-22-2018, 06:49 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ]The defense has played at a well above average level this year. Blake has played like one of the worst QBs in football.
Stop giving him excuses.
The defense hasn't played well since the injuries on offense piled up to a critical state.
That's why there is fighting in the locker room. It has nothing to do with Bortles. It's the fact that some players on the defense, which is healthy and the backbone of this team, haven't stepped at a time when the team needed them the most and guys on that squad are demanding accountability from them and theirselves.
The defense is top 5 in a ton of categories. It's playing well above average , just not on the level of last year. And that is partly due to ineptitude of the offense as well as poor coaching and some regression of key players.
Saying that the frustration in the locker room right now has NOTHING to do with Blake is not based in reality, certainly not this one anyway.
Blake is the #1 problem on the team right now. By far.
Playing Blake right now makes sense considering the team is traveling to London right before a BYE. If they want to make a change, let Kessler have 2 weeks to prepare.
If Blake plays well, he continues to start. If he continues putting up zero points in the first half of the Eagles game, bench him and now Kessler is the starter.
This team just wont move on from Bortles. Front office is so arrogant
No surprise. With his contract, he's almost guaranteed to start no matter how bad he does.
So much back and forth between posters on what is wrong. Be it Blake, the defense, injuries, coaching etc. yet, I can’t really disagree with anyone. Both sides on all counts are right to a degree. Bottom line, I think this team was hyped up (rightfully so) to make a deep run into playoffs and possibly into the SB. I think they coaches and players all believed they could as well. Injuries struck and struck bad. Coaches made bad decisions a year ago as well as when trying to compensate for adversity throughout the season. Defense fed up with doing their job as well as coaching schemes yet the bad losses. Just seems like an all out meltdown all around. Almost like a perfect storm of misfortune and reaction by all parties.
(10-22-2018, 07:12 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ] (10-22-2018, 07:06 PM)Predator Wrote: [ -> ]The defense hasn't played well since the injuries on offense piled up to a critical state.
That's why there is fighting in the locker room. It has nothing to do with Bortles. It's the fact that some players on the defense, which is healthy and the backbone of this team, haven't stepped at a time when the team needed them the most and guys on that squad are demanding accountability from them and theirselves.
The defense is top 5 in a ton of categories. It's playing well above average , just not on the level of last year. And that is partly due to ineptitude of the offense as well as poor coaching and some regression of key players.
Saying that the frustration in the locker room right now has NOTHING to do with Blake is not based in reality, certainly not this one anyway.
Blake is the #1 problem on the team right now. By far.
The defense was number 1 in those categories before the three game slide and the beginning of that slide also coincides with the crescendo of injuries on offense when the team needed the defense to step up the most.
Saying the locker room is divided over Blake is a complete fabrication by fans such as yourself.
The reality based on what the players are saying themselves, is that the tension in the locker room is within the defense itself.
Malik spoke about the building tension just last week.
"Guys were trying to do too much," Jackson said. "Guys with a lot of accolades in the past, and they don't have the stats this year they want, they're out there trying to do too much and are stressing other guys out at other positions."
Obviously Bortles needs to play better, but it is unrealistic to think the team would be ganging up on the guy they know is having to play with serious disadvantages. They see a guy out there trying to do everything he can under bad circumstances, but unfortunately the results of that effort keep blowing up in his face.
(10-22-2018, 07:40 PM)Predator Wrote: [ -> ] (10-22-2018, 07:12 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ]The defense is top 5 in a ton of categories. It's playing well above average , just not on the level of last year. And that is partly due to ineptitude of the offense as well as poor coaching and some regression of key players.
Saying that the frustration in the locker room right now has NOTHING to do with Blake is not based in reality, certainly not this one anyway.
Blake is the #1 problem on the team right now. By far.
The defense was number 1 in those categories before the three game slide and the beginning of that slide also coincides with the crescendo of injuries on offense when the team needed the defense to step up the most.
Saying the locker room is divided over Blake is a complete fabrication by fans such as yourself.
The reality based on what the players are saying themselves, is that the tension in the locker room is within the defense itself.
Malik spoke about the building tension just last week.
"Guys were trying to do too much," Jackson said. "Guys with a lot of accolades in the past, and they don't have the stats this year they want, they're out there trying to do too much and are stressing other guys out at other positions."
Obviously Bortles needs to play better, but it is unrealistic to think the team would be ganging up on the guy they know is having to play with serious disadvantages. They see a guy out there trying to do everything he can under bad circumstances, but unfortunately the results of that effort keep blowing up in his face.
Unless it’s been stated otherwise, sounds like he’s talking about Ramsey.
(10-22-2018, 07:43 PM)Jags Wrote: [ -> ] (10-22-2018, 07:40 PM)Predator Wrote: [ -> ]The defense was number 1 in those categories before the three game slide and the beginning of that slide also coincides with the crescendo of injuries on offense when the team needed the defense to step up the most.
Saying the locker room is divided over Blake is a complete fabrication by fans such as yourself.
The reality based on what the players are saying themselves, is that the tension in the locker room is within the defense itself.
Malik spoke about the building tension just last week.
"Guys were trying to do too much," Jackson said. "Guys with a lot of accolades in the past, and they don't have the stats this year they want, they're out there trying to do too much and are stressing other guys out at other positions."
Obviously Bortles needs to play better, but it is unrealistic to think the team would be ganging up on the guy they know is having to play with serious disadvantages. They see a guy out there trying to do everything he can under bad circumstances, but unfortunately the results of that effort keep blowing up in his face.
Unless it’s been stated otherwise, sounds like he’s talking about Ramsey.
definitely sounds like hes talking about Ramsey
(10-22-2018, 07:16 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]Playing Blake right now makes sense considering the team is traveling to London right before a BYE. If they want to make a change, let Kessler have 2 weeks to prepare.
If Blake plays well, he continues to start. If he continues putting up zero points in the first half of the Eagles game, bench him and now Kessler is the starter.
I can understand them playing Bortles this week. He responded well after Henne replaced him last preseason.
If Bortles doesn't play well and we drop another game, I can definitely see this scenario playing out.
A four game slide would put us in full desperation mode to save the season and they will have to pull out all the stops.
(10-22-2018, 07:48 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ] (10-22-2018, 07:43 PM)Jags Wrote: [ -> ]Unless it’s been stated otherwise, sounds like he’s talking about Ramsey.
definitely sounds like hes talking about Ramsey
At what point does one consider a player a “cancer to the locker room”? I’m not suggesting he is, but it looks like it could head that way if others are feeling the same way.
@mortespn Jaguars not trading for QB, which includes Eli, as much love as EVP Tom Coughlin has for him. Jags believe debut of Carlos Hyde, eventual return of Fournette, gives them "hammer" RBs they need for QBs, defense and injury-riddled O-line, which still needs somewhat mobile QB.
So dumb. This front office loves status quo
I don't get it. Kessler played lights out when he was in there. The INT was not his fault. Kessler was accurate and quick. And he didn't make dumb decisions. Everything we need at the QB position right now. Makes no sense.
Blake shows flashes of brilliance, and then all of a sudden he will have a string of games where he sucks so bad he looks like the worst QB in the league. Then we'll face a team who will gameplan on "sucky" Blake, then out of nowhere Blake will have one of his brilliant games and sneak up on a team and we win.
That's pretty much how we won some games last season.
(10-22-2018, 07:43 PM)Jags Wrote: [ -> ] (10-22-2018, 07:40 PM)Predator Wrote: [ -> ]The defense was number 1 in those categories before the three game slide and the beginning of that slide also coincides with the crescendo of injuries on offense when the team needed the defense to step up the most.
Saying the locker room is divided over Blake is a complete fabrication by fans such as yourself.
The reality based on what the players are saying themselves, is that the tension in the locker room is within the defense itself.
Malik spoke about the building tension just last week.
"Guys were trying to do too much," Jackson said. "Guys with a lot of accolades in the past, and they don't have the stats this year they want, they're out there trying to do too much and are stressing other guys out at other positions."
Obviously Bortles needs to play better, but it is unrealistic to think the team would be ganging up on the guy they know is having to play with serious disadvantages. They see a guy out there trying to do everything he can under bad circumstances, but unfortunately the results of that effort keep blowing up in his face.
Unless it’s been stated otherwise, sounds like he’s talking about Ramsey.
I was thinking Ngakoue all the way. Jalen didn't really have amazing "stats" last year.