(11-02-2018, 07:08 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ].I think everyone involved, from the front office, to the coaching staff, to the fans in 443 row EE, is absolutely done chalking up Bortles' inconsistencies to anything other than Blake Bortles.
While this is true I know there sure are many that are chalking up every other players/coaches inconsistencies to Bortles fault though.
(11-02-2018, 07:13 PM)Jagwired Wrote: [ -> ] (11-02-2018, 07:08 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ].I think everyone involved, from the front office, to the coaching staff, to the fans in 443 row EE, is absolutely done chalking up Bortles' inconsistencies to anything other than Blake Bortles.
While this is true I know there sure are many that are chalking up every other players/coaches inconsistencies to Bortles fault though.
Can you imagine what Kyle Shanahan in SF could do with this team? I know the Falcons are missing him.
(11-02-2018, 07:13 PM)Jagwired Wrote: [ -> ] (11-02-2018, 07:08 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ].I think everyone involved, from the front office, to the coaching staff, to the fans in 443 row EE, is absolutely done chalking up Bortles' inconsistencies to anything other than Blake Bortles.
While this is true I know there sure are many that are chalking up every other players/coaches inconsistencies to Bortles fault though.
Yeah. There are plenty of folks that can't distinguish between the two. Both have some blame to reckon with.
Even though I think Hackett has had his fair share gaffs calling plays, I do feel like he's practically doing so with one hand tied behind his back when "bad Blake" shows up to play. Even when it's good Blake week, Hackett doesn't exactly have a wide open playbook to work with. Mitigating Blake's mistakes has definitely affected the playbook negatively.
I would say after last weeks calls that Hackett would say he feels more hamstrung by the running game failure than anything Blake is or is not doing.
(11-02-2018, 07:52 PM)Jagwired Wrote: [ -> ]I would say after last weeks calls that Hackett would say he feels more hamstrung by the running game failure than anything Blake is or is not doing.
They both need fixing IMO. I mean, wouldn't it be nice to have no need to lean on one or the other to pull through, but to have both available to get the job done vs any given opponent?
I feel as much as Bortles' flaws are hyperbolized around here, we've reached a tipping point.
Injuries have rendered the running game ineffective and that's gotta get right too.
And sure, Hackett could have dialed up some smarter smoke and mirrors at times to hobble this offense along and move the chains more effectively.
(11-02-2018, 07:08 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]I think everyone involved, from the front office, to the coaching staff, to the fans in 443 row EE, is absolutely done chalking up Bortles' inconsistencies to anything other than Blake Bortles.
Unfortunately, I think you severely underestimate Dave Caldwell. We have heard him suspend logic multiple times before to defend/justify Blake and his inadequacies. He can easily do it again using injuries.
(11-02-2018, 09:43 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ] (11-02-2018, 07:08 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]I think everyone involved, from the front office, to the coaching staff, to the fans in 443 row EE, is absolutely done chalking up Bortles' inconsistencies to anything other than Blake Bortles.
Unfortunately, I think you severely underestimate Dave Caldwell. We have heard him suspend logic multiple times before to defend/justify Blake and his inadequacies. He can easily do it again using injuries.
Yep he has no rational thought with Bortles he is blind. He knows when he admits Bortles is not it hes cooked.
(11-02-2018, 09:43 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ] (11-02-2018, 07:08 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]I think everyone involved, from the front office, to the coaching staff, to the fans in 443 row EE, is absolutely done chalking up Bortles' inconsistencies to anything other than Blake Bortles.
Unfortunately, I think you severely underestimate Dave Caldwell. We have heard him suspend logic multiple times before to defend/justify Blake and his inadequacies. He can easily do it again using injuries.
Nah. I think he sees what we all see and knows it's time to move on. If Caldwell is still here in July and Bortles isn't either gone or in a camp competition with a new QB I'll be shocked. I'd definitely not defend the guy any longer if that were to happen. But I really can't imagine it going down like that.
I hope every member of the team, the coaching staff and front office really does get
their stuff back together in the bye....and beat the stuffings out of the clots come Sunday week
(11-03-2018, 08:42 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ] (11-02-2018, 09:43 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]Unfortunately, I think you severely underestimate Dave Caldwell. We have heard him suspend logic multiple times before to defend/justify Blake and his inadequacies. He can easily do it again using injuries.
Nah. I think he sees what we all see and knows it's time to move on. If Caldwell is still here in July and Bortles isn't either gone or in a camp competition with a new QB I'll be shocked. I'd definitely not defend the guy any longer if that were to happen. But I really can't imagine it going down like that.
And this is why I like the Corona help line Tony Romo commercials. All we can do is grab a beer and sit down and watch it happen. Well and post on these here forums
(10-29-2018, 02:59 PM)nate Wrote: [ -> ] (10-29-2018, 09:28 AM)Jagwired Wrote: [ -> ]So this game was on BB5 to? Buuuuwwwwaaaaaaa!!!
Our fans hate on our QB's in an amazing way, with varying degrees of deservability.
One thing, do people realize that Bridgewater had an amazing D, Adrian Peterson, Stephon Diggs, Mike Wallace, and Kyle Rudolph and still only managed 14 TDs in a complete year?
I continue to watch so many teams with weapons that Bortles could only reminisce about, to the days of having Arob.....
I just don't know how this shallow-mindedness continues, what to they expect a QB is going to do with NO running game, NO reliable receivers, ZERO contribution from the TE's, and a back-up-back-up-back-up at LT?
What would Bortles do with say,,,,I don't know, having the weapons they often-mentioned-traded-to-us Eli? Beckom? Shepard? Engram?
I mean, wow. Blake is as good as gone, I am sure, but people cannot stop themselves from pounding on a guy who has been nothing but class all the way, despite all of the gutless garbage thrown his way.
That's what we do in Jax, and several other cities, I am sure. Can't wait to bury the next guy too, I am sure. Fill-in the blank.
The thing about it is, we had a plan going into the year, one that was solid and reasonable, but fragile nevertheless. I am sure most teams do.
We have to adjust everywhere you look, and that is not an excuse, but the actual reason- for LT, regression from WR's, and drops that are killers, TE injuries that are laughable at this point, and a focal point of the O being absent since the 1st half of the 1st half.
Just a fragile plan, that fell apart, because of circumstances. It is what it is.
You sir own post of the 2018 season. I've been saying this for years. No matter who is behind center, Jags fans will have a problem with him. BB5 our here running for first downs, getting killed because his WRs cant catch (Cole) or don't try (Moncrief), and he is down to his 5th or 6th TE. You can show all the screenshots you want, if you don't have any confidence in your receivers outside of Westbrook, and no confidence in your Oline, then you are going to get the results that you have seen for weeks. I don't blame Blake for the recent play in the last few weeks. its crazy the injuries and "inconsistencies" of the pieces around him.
(10-29-2018, 03:32 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ] (10-29-2018, 02:59 PM)nate Wrote: [ -> ]Our fans hate on our QB's in an amazing way, with varying degrees of deservability.
One thing, do people realize that Bridgewater had an amazing D, Adrian Peterson, Stephon Diggs, Mike Wallace, and Kyle Rudolph and still only managed 14 TDs in a complete year?
I continue to watch so many teams with weapons that Bortles could only reminisce about, to the days of having Arob.....
I just don't know how this shallow-mindedness continues, what to they expect a QB is going to do with NO running game, NO reliable receivers, ZERO contribution from the TE's, and a back-up-back-up-back-up at LT?
What would Bortles do with say,,,,I don't know, having the weapons they often-mentioned-traded-to-us Eli? Beckom? Shepard? Engram?
I mean, wow. Blake is as good as gone, I am sure, but people cannot stop themselves from pounding on a guy who has been nothing but class all the way, despite all of the gutless garbage thrown his way.
That's what we do in Jax, and several other cities, I am sure. Can't wait to bury the next guy too, I am sure. Fill-in the blank.
The thing about it is, we had a plan going into the year, one that was solid and reasonable, but fragile nevertheless. I am sure most teams do.
We have to adjust everywhere you look, and that is not an excuse, but the actual reason- for LT, regression from WR's, and drops that are killers, TE injuries that are laughable at this point, and a focal point of the O being absent since the 1st half of the 1st half.
Just a fragile plan, that fell apart, because of circumstances. It is what it is.
He would probably throw an interception.
Does Blake have the best weapons in the league? No. Does he miss open receivers and rarely throws with anticipation? Yes.
Let me get a warning real quick.
You stupid.