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(11-18-2018, 05:50 PM)TearExtractor Wrote: [ -> ]Bortles cant be trusted to do anything else.

This

(11-18-2018, 07:35 PM)Mowerguy Wrote: [ -> ]we throw when we should run.....and run when we should throw.
Why is this so when its so obvious to almost every one

I enjoyed Romo making fun of Hackett today. "I would come out in a run formation and hit them with pass since the line can't pass block" "I'm sure they will play action soon"


HEHEHEHE

(11-18-2018, 05:50 PM)TearExtractor Wrote: [ -> ]Bortles cant be trusted to do anything else.

he can run bootleg for 5 yards and get us a 1st down. Hackett is 100% why we lost this game. Marone said to hacket on the 3rd down play what is our best pass play to get 5 yards. and hackett said we need to run it up the middle. that right there tells me hacket has no intellegence to call plays and should be fired tonight.

(11-18-2018, 05:46 PM)SeldomRite Wrote: [ -> ]The game plan would have worked if they're have thrown in a couple of Bortles keepers. The offensive line was atrocious in pass protection.

I was calling that keeper the whole 2nd half.   They never called it.   Killed me.

Agree with your whole post.

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(11-18-2018, 07:49 PM)JagsFanClubOfMD Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-18-2018, 05:50 PM)TearExtractor Wrote: [ -> ]Bortles cant be trusted to do anything else.

This

I guess the fact that the other QB threw pick after pick after pick and tried to throw more didn’t discourage the other OC from throwing, for some reason.  


Seriously, it was the approach, not the play of the QB.   They just played not to lose and rely on the D, and the D gave it up when they needed the BIG stop.

(11-18-2018, 08:02 PM)JAGFAN88 Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-18-2018, 05:50 PM)TearExtractor Wrote: [ -> ]Bortles cant be trusted to do anything else.

he can run bootleg for 5 yards and get us a 1st down. Hackett is 100% why we lost this game. Marone said to hacket on the 3rd down play what is our best pass play to get 5 yards. and hackett said we need to run it up the middle. that right there tells me hacket has no intellegence to call plays and should be fired tonight.

In other news, unless I’m mistaken, we competed our first slant of the year, to chark.  

Never seen a team run like 5 slants all year.  Takes away the sluggos and posts other teams are successful with, and we just take it completely out of the game plan.   

We bring the defenders to the box, and tell them how to defend us and what to not be concerned with.

The reason we didn’t throw it on 3rd and 5 is because of Bortles. He can’t be trusted when the game is on the line. Period.

(11-18-2018, 07:55 PM)jags_r_bake Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-18-2018, 07:35 PM)Mowerguy Wrote: [ -> ]we throw when we should run.....and run when we should throw.
Why is this so when its so obvious to almost every one

I enjoyed Romo making fun of Hackett today. "I would come out in a run formation and hit them with pass since the line can't pass block" "I'm sure they will play action soon"


HEHEHEHE

Play calling was freaking horrible.

This game may cost Marrone and Hackett their jobs.

I love the idea of blaming the coaches when they have substandard material to work with. You guys want "heads to roll" because they can't find a way to win with the most incompetent QB in the league?. It's like firing the Chef and kitchen staff because they can't make a five star meal out of elbow noodles and low-fat ranch dressing.

(11-18-2018, 08:31 PM)JagFanatic24 Wrote: [ -> ]The reason we didn’t throw it on 3rd and 5 is because of Bortles. He can’t be trusted when the game is on the line. Period.

More like the O Line cant pass protect to SAVE their lives.....

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(11-18-2018, 08:02 PM)JAGFAN88 Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-18-2018, 05:50 PM)TearExtractor Wrote: [ -> ]Bortles cant be trusted to do anything else.

he can run bootleg for 5 yards and get us a 1st down. Hackett is 100% why we lost this game. Marone said to hacket on the 3rd down play what is our best pass play to get 5 yards. and hackett said we need to run it up the middle. that right there tells me hacket has no intellegence to call plays and should be fired tonight.

Agreed no Rollouts or QB Keepers.....I am totally miffed.

Why not use Bortles on bootlegs or designed QB runs...

(11-18-2018, 09:25 PM)IndyJagsFan Wrote: [ -> ]I love the idea of blaming the coaches when they have substandard material to work with. You guys want "heads to roll" because they can't find a way to win with the most incompetent QB in the league?. It's like firing the Chef and kitchen staff because they can't make a five star meal out of elbow noodles and low-fat ranch dressing.

Nah that chef sux too.  This isn't something new or a one time thing.

Went conserative? I'm confused... wasn't this expected? What did you want? Something else? WHO DIDNT SEE THAT LAST DRIVE ?

This reminds me a little of the AFC Championship game. In the second half, Marrone didn't trust Bortles to throw the ball...although in that game, Bortles actually played well in the first half. In this game, Bortles played poorly throughout the game, and Doug just didn't trust him on that last possession, deep in our own territory.

You have to wonder how many more chances Bortles is going to get if the coach doesn't have faith in him with the game on the line.

(11-18-2018, 05:46 PM)SeldomRite Wrote: [ -> ]The game plan would have worked if they're have thrown in a couple of Bortles keepers. The offensive line was atrocious in pass protection.

Game plan? The game plan was run Fournette and avoid Bortles throwing the ball. Is that a game plan? That's football ca: 1900. It worked for the first half but then Pittsburgh made adjustments at half time and just stuffed the box and dared Bortles to throw. So we kept running Fournette up the middle into their wall of defenders. Didn't the OC figure it out at halftime that Pittsburgh would adjust for that? Sure didn't look like it.

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(11-18-2018, 05:46 PM)SeldomRite Wrote: [ -> ]The game plan would have worked if they're have thrown in a couple of Bortles keepers. The offensive line was atrocious in pass protection.

Game plan? The game plan was run Fournette and avoid Bortles throwing the ball. Is that a game plan? That's football ca: 1900. It worked for the first half but then Pittsburgh made adjustments at half time and just stuffed the box and dared Bortles to throw. So we kept running Fournette up the middle into their wall of defenders. Didn't the OC figure it out at halftime that Pittsburgh would adjust for that? Sure didn't look like it.

The game plan was archaic. You can’t play around your quarterback and expect to win consistently

(11-18-2018, 09:25 PM)old_man Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-18-2018, 08:31 PM)JagFanatic24 Wrote: [ -> ]The reason we didn’t throw it on 3rd and 5 is because of Bortles. He can’t be trusted when the game is on the line. Period.

More like the O Line cant pass protect to SAVE their lives.....

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(11-18-2018, 08:02 PM)JAGFAN88 Wrote: [ -> ]he can run bootleg for 5 yards and get us a 1st down. Hackett is 100% why we lost this game. Marone said to hacket on the 3rd down play what is our best pass play to get 5 yards. and hackett said we need to run it up the middle. that right there tells me hacket has no intellegence to call plays and should be fired tonight.

Agreed no Rollouts or QB Keepers.....I am totally miffed.

Why not use Bortles on bootlegs or designed QB runs...

There was constant pressure on the edges.  The one play they showed where Bortles could have run for a first down to the left had the edge pass rusher biting on the run up the middle.

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(11-19-2018, 04:20 AM)JagFanFirst Wrote: [ -> ]This reminds me a little of the AFC Championship game.  In the second half, Marrone didn't trust Bortles to throw the ball...although in that game, Bortles actually played well in the first half.  In this game, Bortles played poorly throughout the game, and Doug just didn't trust him on that last possession, deep in our own territory.

You have to wonder how many more chances Bortles is going to get if the coach doesn't have faith in him with the game on the line.

The offense just tries to not allow Bortles to turn the ball over.  They think that pounding the ball will keep this to a minimum.

(11-18-2018, 05:45 PM)knarnn Wrote: [ -> ]When will this team learn? How many more times do we have to witness this play out?

I don't get it.  They just needed a couple of first downs to win.  

How in the hell they couldn't manufacture a designed QB rollout run option, a quick dump to a TE, or something vaguely creative enough to make the defense have to think, it's just beyond me. 

Very disappointed with the play calling down stretch in the fourth quarter in this one. They just needed to control clock for ~2 more minutes and they couldn't convert.  The penalties in the prior drive were daggers as well.

(11-19-2018, 10:21 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-18-2018, 05:45 PM)knarnn Wrote: [ -> ]When will this team learn? How many more times do we have to witness this play out?

I don't get it.  They just needed a couple of first downs to win.  

How in the hell they couldn't manufacture a designed QB rollout run option, a quick dump to a TE, or something vaguely creative enough to make the defense have to think, it's just beyond me. 

Very disappointed with the play calling down stretch in the fourth quarter in this one. They just needed to control clock for ~2 more minutes and they couldn't convert.  The penalties in the prior drive were daggers as well.

Agreed.  Not one rollout or designed QB run.....

(11-19-2018, 04:20 AM)JagFanFirst Wrote: [ -> ]This reminds me a little of the AFC Championship game.  In the second half, Marrone didn't trust Bortles to throw the ball...although in that game, Bortles actually played well in the first half.  In this game, Bortles played poorly throughout the game, and Doug just didn't trust him on that last possession, deep in our own territory.

You have to wonder how many more chances Bortles is going to get if the coach doesn't have faith in him with the game on the line.

There is 1 similarity in the 2 games in that the coaching staff didn't trust the passing game in crunch time. There is a good chance the Jags would have gone to the Super Bowl if Hackett/Marrone didn't get so conservative at the end. The passing game was effective, yet they still abandoned it. Who knows when the next time will be when the Jaguar fans will have realistic expectations of going to the Super Bowl?

As far as yesterday's game goes, it was a very different situation than against the Patriots. Our offensive line could not pass protect at all. That being said, how do they not come up with 1 stinking play to get a game-winning first down? We are talking 1 play. That particular series of play-calling (3 runs up the middle) should cost Hackett his job. This season was going nowhere even if they beat the Steelers, but our fans deserve better than how that game ended. Having to listen to all those Steeler fans celebrate after being totally dominated for 3 quarters is more than anyone should have to take.

(11-19-2018, 10:27 AM)old_man Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-19-2018, 10:21 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]I don't get it.  They just needed a couple of first downs to win.  

How in the hell they couldn't manufacture a designed QB rollout run option, a quick dump to a TE, or something vaguely creative enough to make the defense have to think, it's just beyond me. 

Very disappointed with the play calling down stretch in the fourth quarter in this one. They just needed to control clock for ~2 more minutes and they couldn't convert.  The penalties in the prior drive were daggers as well.

Agreed.  Not one rollout or designed QB run.....

Did any of you not see the 2 minute drill we tried to be executed by in the first half?  For passing, the Bortles likes the shotgun formation and that is like a big come and get me play.  The QB can't execute.

You are right they would need to install some crazy play for situations like that.  A play where there isn't a lot of tape for a team to diagnose or react to.  If you are going to completely disregard the QB position you have to do something.

you guys went way to conservative. Steelers adjusted to stop the run and you guys didn't readjust. last 5 or 6 drives on your end was just attempts to kill the clock. not to get anymore points