What does yourbigboard look like as of now. Of course they will change a bit as we all start looking a little deeper just wondering what yours looks like?
1. Grier
2. Bosa
3. Herbert
4a. Oliver
4b. Williams
5. Lock
Wildcard: Greg Little
1) Bosa
2) Q.Williams
3) Oliver
4) Herbert/Haskins
5) Haskins/Herbert
Holsterhusto has a good list.
(11-27-2018, 10:39 AM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]Holsterhusto has a good list.
I thought it was tank for Haskins? Hes already been bumped down to 4th or 5th on your bigboard?
(11-27-2018, 11:34 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ] (11-27-2018, 10:39 AM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]Holsterhusto has a good list.
I thought it was tank for Haskins? Hes already been bumped down to 4th or 5th on your bigboard?
Your big board and who you want to draft can be two totally different rankings.
Bosa, Oliver and Williams are all great prospects but the team has put so much draft stock in the DLine that taking one of those guys would be a bad move. Not to mention his rankings could be very close in ratings which would lead to drafting a position of need when the ratings are close.
(11-27-2018, 11:37 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ] (11-27-2018, 11:34 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]I thought it was tank for Haskins? Hes already been bumped down to 4th or 5th on your bigboard?
Your big board and who you want to draft can be two totally different rankings.
Bosa, Oliver and Williams are all great prospects but the team has put so much draft stock in the DLine that taking one of those guys would be a bad move. Not to mention his rankings could be very close in ratings which would lead to drafting a position of need when the ratings are close.
Yeah, I meant to put your bigboard for the Jags. If we draft Bosa or Oliver that wouldnt be a bad move, best player in the draft. He could take Campbells spot
(11-27-2018, 11:48 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ] (11-27-2018, 11:37 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]Your big board and who you want to draft can be two totally different rankings.
Bosa, Oliver and Williams are all great prospects but the team has put so much draft stock in the DLine that taking one of those guys would be a bad move. Not to mention his rankings could be very close in ratings which would lead to drafting a position of need when the ratings are close.
Yeah, I meant to put your bigboard for the Jags. If we draft Bosa or Oliver that wouldnt be a bad move, best player in the draft. He could take Campbells spot
I think the Jags pretty much have to go QB round 1. They can’t keep playing around with the most important position on football.
Haskins or Herbert or Grier.... doesn’t matter as long as they’re the guy to lead this team for 10-15 years.
(11-27-2018, 11:50 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ] (11-27-2018, 11:48 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah, I meant to put your bigboard for the Jags. If we draft Bosa or Oliver that wouldnt be a bad move, best player in the draft. He could take Campbells spot
I think the Jags pretty much have to go QB round 1. They can’t keep playing around with the most important position on football.
Haskins or Herbert or Grier.... doesn’t matter as long as they’re the guy to lead this team for 10-15 years.
Not if the guy they want is gone. I dont think you should take a QB just to take one. The could do like Oak. did and take Bosa if their top QBs are gone and trade back in to the first and grab a QB. I wouldnt ever take a position just to take one. Hopefully their top QB will be available though so we wont have to worry about it.
1. Bosa
2. Haskins
3. Q. Williams
4. Oliver
5. J. Williams
1. Bosa
2. Q Williams
3. Oliver
4. Haskins or Grier
5. Rashan Gary
Honestly if I'm making a big board none of the QBs make top 5...
That isn't a knock on the QBs only a testament to the amount of shear defensive talent at the top of this draft.
Which, in theory, could be good... maybe we trade back, add picks, and still get Grier or Lock.
My top 5
4 best pass rushers, 3 edge 1 interior
Bosa
Oliver
Ferrell
Allen
Williams (best OT)
Based on Needs:
1. Dwayne Haskins - Ohio State
2. Will Grier - QB - West Virginia
3. A.J Brown - WR - Ole Miss
4. Devin White - LB - LSU
5. Mack Wilson - LB - Alabama
Based On Best Overall:
1. Nick Bosa - DE - Ohio State
2. Clelin Ferrell - DE - Clemson
3. Quinnen Williams - DT - Alabama
4. Greg Little - OT - Ole Miss
5. Ed Oliver - DT - Houston
I don't have the order, but here is my current top 10 players.
Ed Oliver, DT, Houston
Nick Bosa, DE, OSU
Josh Allen, DE/OLB, Kentucky
Greedy Williams, CB, LSU
Devin White, LB, LSU
Quinnen Williams, DT, Alabama
Clelin Ferrell, DE, Clemson
Jerry Tillery, DT, Notre Dame
Dre'mont Jones, DT, Ohio State
Justin Herbert, QB, Oregon
(11-27-2018, 02:31 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]I don't have the order, but here is my current top 10 players.
Ed Oliver, DT, Houston
Nick Bosa, DE, OSU
Josh Allen, DE/OLB, Kentucky
Greedy Williams, CB, LSU
Devin White, LB, LSU
Quinnen Williams, DT, Alabama
Clelin Ferrell, DE, Clemson
Jerry Tillery, DT, Notre Dame
Dre'mont Jones, DT, Ohio State
Justin Herbert, QB, Oregon
Not that I dislike any of these players but if the Jags draft a DT in the top 10 I honestly believe there will be an uprising like never seen before in the civilized world.
herbert or haskins in that order
(11-27-2018, 10:55 PM)knarnn Wrote: [ -> ] (11-27-2018, 02:31 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]I don't have the order, but here is my current top 10 players.
Ed Oliver, DT, Houston
Nick Bosa, DE, OSU
Josh Allen, DE/OLB, Kentucky
Greedy Williams, CB, LSU
Devin White, LB, LSU
Quinnen Williams, DT, Alabama
Clelin Ferrell, DE, Clemson
Jerry Tillery, DT, Notre Dame
Dre'mont Jones, DT, Ohio State
Justin Herbert, QB, Oregon
Not that I dislike any of these players but if the Jags draft a DT in the top 10 I honestly believe there will be an uprising like never seen before in the civilized world.
This really isn't a draft board for the Jags. It's more of what I consider a top 10 overall players in the draft. It's a very defense heavy draft, particularly on the defensive line. If we would've drafted a QB last year, we still could've ended up with a DT/DE in the 2019 draft, better than Bryan.
Haskins and Herbert would be my top 2 guys. Grier would be a solid 3rd. Obviously, these are not the best 3 players in the draft, but the Jags need to focus on the offense. They need help on the offensive line, tight end and wide receiver in addition to quarterback. Harrison should take over for Church next season and Bryan will replace Malik Jackson. If the linebackers (Smith and Jack) can play at the level they did last season, the defense will be fine.
One of these years we’ll get a gm who really takes the best available player and not their opinion on best available need. Pretty sure that’s why our top five drafts picks have mostly sucked. If one of those d lineman is the unquestioned best player when we pick, take him. Prime example we took need(Bortles) over BAP(Mack) and it makes no sense to continue to do the same over and over. If we take another qb just off need and he’s [BLEEP], they might as well move to London.
(11-28-2018, 10:13 AM)P. Haze Wrote: [ -> ]One of these years we’ll get a gm who really takes the best available player and not their opinion on best available need. Pretty sure that’s why our top five drafts picks have mostly sucked. If one of those d lineman is the unquestioned best player when we pick, take him. Prime example we took need(Bortles) over BAP(Mack) and it makes no sense to continue to do the same over and over. If we take another qb just off need and he’s [BLEEP], they might as well move to London.
This is a weird take on things...
We needed a QB and they took a RB top 5.
We needed an OL guy and they took a DL guy.
-shrug-
I don't think there's a perfect method. It's the guy making the picks that is the problem.
This idea that this draft's crop of QBs isn't as good is a misnomer.
I remember hearing this every other draft or so... "next years crop of [insert position here] is better"
Truth is... no one of us, or any draftnik, really know if next years crop is going to be any better, healthier, or anything.
If you need a QB you go get one... you don't put your fanbase through THIS kind of season and then sit on the problem for a whole year.
Other than Tua (and Herbert if he stays in) I'm not sure how "next years QBs" are gonna be any better, and there is no guarantee Tua comes out as a Jr and there is no guarantee we're in position to get either next year.
If we're picking top 10 and Grier or Haskins or Lock is available I think it'd be pretty stupid to not select one of them.
But that's just like, my opinion, man.
(11-28-2018, 12:04 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ] (11-27-2018, 10:55 PM)knarnn Wrote: [ -> ]Not that I dislike any of these players but if the Jags draft a DT in the top 10 I honestly believe there will be an uprising like never seen before in the civilized world.
This really isn't a draft board for the Jags. It's more of what I consider a top 10 overall players in the draft. It's a very defense heavy draft, particularly on the defensive line. If we would've drafted a QB last year, we still could've ended up with a DT/DE in the 2019 draft, better than Bryan.
You're not wrong.
However, we could have done better by going OL or TE and then QB in the first here and STILL end up with prem-o d talent in rounds 2 because of how heavy and deep this draft is (and how other teams will reach for offensive positions of need)
Ah well... hopefully the guy(s) in charge of those screw ups is gone.....
(11-27-2018, 10:55 PM)knarnn Wrote: [ -> ] (11-27-2018, 02:31 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]I don't have the order, but here is my current top 10 players.
Ed Oliver, DT, Houston
Nick Bosa, DE, OSU
Josh Allen, DE/OLB, Kentucky
Greedy Williams, CB, LSU
Devin White, LB, LSU
Quinnen Williams, DT, Alabama
Clelin Ferrell, DE, Clemson
Jerry Tillery, DT, Notre Dame
Dre'mont Jones, DT, Ohio State
Justin Herbert, QB, Oregon
Not that I dislike any of these players but if the Jags draft a DT in the top 10 I honestly believe there will be an uprising like never seen before in the civilized world.
Indeed...
If the pick isn't QB it better be OL.
There really isn't anything else that is excusable, barring a trade down.
(11-28-2018, 10:25 AM)Kane Wrote: [ -> ] (11-28-2018, 10:13 AM)P. Haze Wrote: [ -> ]One of these years we’ll get a gm who really takes the best available player and not their opinion on best available need. Pretty sure that’s why our top five drafts picks have mostly sucked. If one of those d lineman is the unquestioned best player when we pick, take him. Prime example we took need(Bortles) over BAP(Mack) and it makes no sense to continue to do the same over and over. If we take another qb just off need and he’s [BLEEP], they might as well move to London.
This is a weird take on things...
We needed a QB and they took a RB top 5.
We needed an OL guy and they took a DL guy.
-shrug-
I don't think there's a perfect method. It's the guy making the picks that is the problem.
This idea that this draft's crop of QBs isn't as good is a misnomer.
I remember hearing this every other draft or so... "next years crop of [insert position here] is better"
Truth is... no one of us, or any draftnik, really know if next years crop is going to be any better, healthier, or anything.
If you need a QB you go get one... you don't put your fanbase through THIS kind of season and then sit on the problem for a whole year.
Other than Tua (and Herbert if he stays in) I'm not sure how "next years QBs" are gonna be any better, and there is no guarantee Tua comes out as a Jr and there is no guarantee we're in position to get either next year.
If we're picking top 10 and Grier or Haskins or Lock is available I think it'd be pretty stupid to not select one of them.
But that's just like, my opinion, man.
(11-28-2018, 12:04 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]This really isn't a draft board for the Jags. It's more of what I consider a top 10 overall players in the draft. It's a very defense heavy draft, particularly on the defensive line. If we would've drafted a QB last year, we still could've ended up with a DT/DE in the 2019 draft, better than Bryan.
You're not wrong.
However, we could have done better by going OL or TE and then QB in the first here and STILL end up with prem-o d talent in rounds 2 because of how heavy and deep this draft is (and how other teams will reach for offensive positions of need)
Ah well... hopefully the guy(s) in charge of those screw ups is gone.....
(11-27-2018, 10:55 PM)knarnn Wrote: [ -> ]Not that I dislike any of these players but if the Jags draft a DT in the top 10 I honestly believe there will be an uprising like never seen before in the civilized world.
Indeed...
If the pick isn't QB it better be OL.
There really isn't anything else that is excusable, barring a trade down.