(12-30-2018, 06:09 PM)TJBender Wrote: [ -> ] (12-30-2018, 06:05 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]And you keep the HC these guys quit on!!!!!
This. All the this. This times infinity plus two.
Doug Moron lost the respect of this team weeks ago, and this is just making it abundantly clear. I wouldn't be surprised if there's more to this than the cameras showed, like Fournette refusing to dress or Yeldon refusing to take the field. Even if there isn't, again, why are we keeping a coach who commands so much respect that two players openly insult him on national TV by sitting around doing nothing? If this were a Coughlin-coached team, those two would have had to scoop their man-parts off the field as they ran for the locker room.
Their lack of character and caring are on them. They’re grown men. He was right to call them out. I already was disappointed in how Fournette has comported himself this year. Time to cut bait on his fragile, immature self. But I had hoped not to see that from Yeldon.
Marrone is fine. We just need some changes on the staff.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
(12-30-2018, 06:56 PM)rfc17 Wrote: [ -> ]Eh, I think running to the podium to draft Leftwich when we could have sat still and taken Terrell Suggs was a bad move. And then followed it up a year later taking Reggie Williams when Big Ben went a pick or two later. Set us back a decade.
We are in the same situation now. We will reach on a QB next year and be done for the next 10 years because of it.
Hopefully the Jags can trade Fournette for a 3rd, and draft Josh Jacobs or Bryce Love
(12-30-2018, 06:17 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ] (12-30-2018, 06:16 PM)old_man Wrote: [ -> ]Do you know for sure?
Ok tough guy.....
One of the two people they announced is staying drafted the guy. It was horrible pick even at the time. There is zero accountability and it shows.
So the only time accountability happens is when someone gets fired?
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
(12-30-2018, 06:36 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]Is LF a viable candidate for the worst draft pick in franchise history?
Even if LF never does anything more for the Jags, he's still ahead of Derrick Harvey just from last season. Luke Joeckel was also less productive, as was Justin Blackmon.
If you are basing it on who we could have taken instead, then Matt Jones over Aaron Rodgers was just as bad. And there's no guarantee that Mahomes or Rodgers (or Brady if you want to really use hindsight) would have flourished under the Jags coaching staff.
But I agree that drafting a RB high in the first round in the current NFL was a stupid idea.
(12-30-2018, 07:01 PM)I am Yoda Wrote: [ -> ] (12-30-2018, 06:17 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]One of the two people they announced is staying drafted the guy. It was horrible pick even at the time. There is zero accountability and it shows.
So the only time accountability happens is when someone gets fired?
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
No, it also happens when contracts are extended after a successful season.
(12-30-2018, 07:01 PM)I am Yoda Wrote: [ -> ] (12-30-2018, 06:17 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]One of the two people they announced is staying drafted the guy. It was horrible pick even at the time. There is zero accountability and it shows.
So the only time accountability happens is when someone gets fired?
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
In the business world, yes.
(12-30-2018, 06:12 PM)newporttom Wrote: [ -> ]I think any doubt that Fournette might be back is over. They'll see what they can get in a trade. I assume they can get something, Hopefully they can get a 5th round pick back.
Fixed it for ya.
(12-30-2018, 06:10 PM)old_man Wrote: [ -> ]One thong about this season was there were a lot of me first players....all over the roster...
That is problematic most successful teams are always about the team first...Like I said let the offseason begin.
Nailed it! Too many "Me 1st" attitudes.
(12-30-2018, 07:14 PM)copycat Wrote: [ -> ] (12-30-2018, 06:10 PM)old_man Wrote: [ -> ]One thong about this season was there were a lot of me first players....all over the roster...
That is problematic most successful teams are always about the team first...Like I said let the offseason begin.
Nailed it! Too many "Me 1st" attitudes.
I mean you can always go out and get a bunch of B personality choir boys. I’m sure that strategy has worked....
(12-30-2018, 06:59 PM)Setsuna00 Wrote: [ -> ] (12-30-2018, 06:56 PM)rfc17 Wrote: [ -> ]Eh, I think running to the podium to draft Leftwich when we could have sat still and taken Terrell Suggs was a bad move. And then followed it up a year later taking Reggie Williams when Big Ben went a pick or two later. Set us back a decade.
We are in the same situation now. We will reach on a QB next year and be done for the next 10 years because of it.
We should be in good shape to get one of the two top qbs in the draft. I wouldn’t worry about reaching this time.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
In reality, I can't see them trading LF this year. I think TC may be attempting to light a fire. He is cheap and if he gets in shape with our OL back in tack and a new QB, he could be above average.
It's rare you see a player blasted like that by the front office.
Fournette is officially in TCs dog house and may well find himself in another teams medical room all of next year
(12-30-2018, 07:10 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ] (12-30-2018, 07:01 PM)I am Yoda Wrote: [ -> ]So the only time accountability happens is when someone gets fired?
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
In the business world, yes.
I disagree. If a person were fired every time they failed, there would be no seasoned executives. Compensation, stricter oversight, face to face confrontation, narrower job description. There are many ways accountability happens in the real world. Not just firing.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
(12-30-2018, 07:21 PM)I am Yoda Wrote: [ -> ] (12-30-2018, 07:10 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]In the business world, yes.
I disagree. If a person were fired every time they failed, there would be no seasoned executives. Compensation, stricter oversight, face to face confrontation, narrower job description. There are many ways accountability happens in the real world. Not just firing.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Ita not just one failure though.
(12-30-2018, 07:20 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ]It's rare you see a player blasted like that by the front office.
Fournette is officially in TCs dog house and may well find himself in another teams medical room all of next year
I doubt it nobody is giving us a high pick for a beat up running back
(12-30-2018, 07:17 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]In reality, I can't see them trading LF this year. I think TC may be attempting to light a fire. He is cheap and if he gets in shape with our OL back in tack and a new QB, he could be above average.
(12-30-2018, 07:20 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ]It's rare you see a player blasted like that by the front office.
Fournette is officially in TCs dog house and may well find himself in another teams medical room all of next year
I hope the intensity lasts through the whole offseason. It can't be just by the coaches. The leaders need to step up and fix the communication issues, penalties, too much talking, etc. No clue if there are any leaders on offense though, when Bortles and LF are your captains you have a lot of issues.
Sent from my SM-T820 using Tapatalk
(12-30-2018, 06:36 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]Is LF a viable candidate for the worst draft pick in franchise history?
No. Gabbert is more or less untouchable in that area right now. We gave up a second round pick to jump up for him. Derrick Harvey has to be in that conversation as well. Soward gets a pass because he was picked at the bottom of round one instead of in the top ten.
*Edit: And Blackmon. I wouldn't call him the worst because he was a dominant receiver...for the year or so that he was able to stay clean.
Well, Tom.. Do something about it..
(12-30-2018, 07:25 PM)lastonealive Wrote: [ -> ] (12-30-2018, 07:20 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ]It's rare you see a player blasted like that by the front office.
Fournette is officially in TCs dog house and may well find himself in another teams medical room all of next year
I doubt it nobody is giving us a high pick for a beat up running back
Who said we'd get a high pick back