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Lamar Jackson has had one game of over 200 yards passing and is about to blow the playoffs. He's got way too much credit for the ravens winning run on terrible teams minus the chargers

(12-30-2018, 08:22 PM)lastonealive Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-30-2018, 08:15 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ]If they played as awful as Blake and Cody I sure would.  

This is Blakes 5th season and he's been one of the worst QBs in the league for 3 of them

Ever considered that qbs look way better when they have better receiving options and olines?

Only the best of the best look good surrounded by mediocrity. Even a generally perceived as top qb like Rivers has looked terrible at times in seasons past.

You can roll out cousins, Smith, Tyrod, mccown, keenum we would look terrible with all of them. What we need is a brees or a Brady

Mahomes is playing great but a journeyman like Alex Smith had a career year with the same cast.

All of that is a given. You need to up the analysis.

 Blake Bortles is a bad QB independent of us having lots of injuries this year, he struggles at throwing the ball from A to B more than any starting QB in the league.  

I don't think anyone has said anything but that Mahomes landed in the best possible place for him. While also acknowleding he'd still be a very good QB independent of the Chiefs.

He likely wouldn't be here right now.

(12-30-2018, 08:22 PM)lastonealive Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-30-2018, 08:15 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ]If they played as awful as Blake and Cody I sure would.  

This is Blakes 5th season and he's been one of the worst QBs in the league for 3 of them

Ever considered that qbs look way better when they have better receiving options and olines?

Only the best of the best look good surrounded by mediocrity. Even a generally perceived as top qb like Rivers has looked terrible at times in seasons past.

You can roll out cousins, Smith, Tyrod, mccown, keenum we would look terrible with all of them. What we need is a brees or a Brady

Mahomes is playing great but a journeyman like Alex Smith had a career year with the same cast.

Does it matter that the Jags don’t have Julio and OBJ? He would just throw the ball off target to them just like he did to a wide open Westbrook.

Blake is not good at the most important QB trait: throwing the ball accurately. 

And Mahomes isn’t just playing great. He’s playing out of this world. Have you watched him play? Or have you thought that Mahomes makes the guys around him better? Damien Williams, Robinson and Chris Conley are average but under Mahomes, they’re good football players.

(12-30-2018, 08:37 PM)lastonealive Wrote: [ -> ]Lamar Jackson has had one game of over 200 yards passing and is about to blow the playoffs. He's got way too much credit for the ravens winning run on terrible teams minus the chargers

I think Lamar should get a lot of the credit for their turnaround.  But the problem is whether it can be maintained over the longterm.  He isnt that good a passer and is one snapped knee away from being out of the league.  Another RG3.  But as long as he can stay healthy, he makes their offense dangerous.  All else being equal, a running QB is far more dangerous than a guy who is a statue.  But how long will he stay healthy playing the way he does?  Who knows.  But likely not more than a season or two.

I said Mahomes was playing great? I'm a fan. But trading Kelce for O'whats his name and all the other weapons not to mention our terrible oline would likely have a dramatic effect.

Look Bortles will be gone but let's not make stuff up. Allen Robinson played awesome in 2015 and Blake threw 35tds. Blake however can't put a team on his back we all know this.

(12-30-2018, 08:42 PM)lastonealive Wrote: [ -> ]He likely wouldn't be here right now.

I'd be willing to bet a large sum of money Mahomes would have gotten us to .500 or above this year and played at very least average to above average.

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(12-30-2018, 08:37 PM)lastonealive Wrote: [ -> ]Lamar Jackson has had one game of over 200 yards passing and is about to blow the playoffs. He's got way too much credit for the ravens winning run on terrible teams minus the chargers

They don't make the playoffs with Flacco. It was the best plan of action, masterfully done by them.  That's what well run teams do.

Eh, this was expected. Marrone will get two more years, along with Caldewll and Coughlin, and whatever Rookie QB they take with the 7th pick. That, or we don't draft a QB, stick with Bortles one more year or sign someone in the offseason, and then if we don't perform then I'd say Marrone and Caldwell might be gone.

(12-30-2018, 09:06 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/tealtalk/status/1079537799324422145

What’s even more hilarious is that no one outside of a small group of people (I was one of the few) wanted Lamar Jackson. Now everyone is going goo goo over him.

(12-30-2018, 07:54 PM)navyjagfan Wrote: [ -> ]Man, selecting Bryan over Lamar Jackson is looking even worse now.  Ravens have been on a run and about to make the playoffs, while Bryan is a developmental rotational DT.

Jackson is one knee injury away from being a third-string quarterback in the CFL. Passing him up is not a decision I feel bad about at all.

(12-30-2018, 09:09 PM)TJBender Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-30-2018, 07:54 PM)navyjagfan Wrote: [ -> ]Man, selecting Bryan over Lamar Jackson is looking even worse now.  Ravens have been on a run and about to make the playoffs, while Bryan is a developmental rotational DT.

Jackson is one knee injury away from being a third-string quarterback in the CFL. Passing him up is not a decision I feel bad about at all.

So is most everyone in the league outside of the long snapper.

(12-30-2018, 09:10 PM)knarnn Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-30-2018, 09:09 PM)TJBender Wrote: [ -> ]Jackson is one knee injury away from being a third-string quarterback in the CFL. Passing him up is not a decision I feel bad about at all.

So is most everyone in the league outside of the long snapper.

A good QB can continue to pass effectively even after they lose whatever mobility they had. Jackson's accuracy leave something to be desired. Like accuracy.

(12-30-2018, 09:08 PM)knarnn Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-30-2018, 09:06 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/tealtalk/status/1079537799324422145

What’s even more hilarious is that no one outside of a small group of people (I was one of the few) wanted Lamar Jackson. Now everyone is going goo goo over him.

Didn’t want him then and don’t want him now. Would rather have him over taven though.

(12-30-2018, 09:12 PM)TJBender Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-30-2018, 09:10 PM)knarnn Wrote: [ -> ]So is most everyone in the league outside of the long snapper.

A good QB can continue to pass effectively even after they lose whatever mobility they had. Jackson's accuracy leave something to be desired. Like accuracy.

A good QB wins games and leads his team to the playoffs by any means necessary. I know that’s rare around these parts but trust me on this one. This isn’t your granddaddy’s NFL anymore. Welcome to 2019.

Ah the good o Tebow all he does is win!

(12-30-2018, 09:15 PM)knarnn Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-30-2018, 09:12 PM)TJBender Wrote: [ -> ]A good QB can continue to pass effectively even after they lose whatever mobility they had. Jackson's accuracy leave something to be desired. Like accuracy.

A good QB wins games and leads his team to the playoffs by any means necessary. I know that’s rare around these parts but trust me on this one. This isn’t your granddaddy’s NFL anymore. Welcome to 2019.

He's not awful, but honestly, if my choices were deal with Bortles in 2018 then replace him or be stuck with Jackson until 2022, I'm taking Bortles and the new guy. Jackson is fast, elusive and unlike other QBs, but give defenses an offseason to watch his tape and Ravens fans will miss Flacco. If he pops his ACL and comes back two-tenths of a second slower, they'll be wishing they'd traded for Bortles instead.

(12-30-2018, 09:07 PM)The Eleventh Doctor Wrote: [ -> ]Eh, this was expected.  Marrone will get two more years, along with Caldewll and Coughlin, and whatever Rookie QB they take with the 7th pick.  That, or we don't draft a QB, stick with Bortles one more year or sign someone in the offseason, and then if we don't perform then I'd say Marrone and Caldwell might be gone.

Marrone won't survive another bad year.

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(12-30-2018, 09:20 PM)TJBender Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-30-2018, 09:15 PM)knarnn Wrote: [ -> ]A good QB wins games and leads his team to the playoffs by any means necessary. I know that’s rare around these parts but trust me on this one. This isn’t your granddaddy’s NFL anymore. Welcome to 2019.

He's not awful, but honestly, if my choices were deal with Bortles in 2018 then replace him or be stuck with Jackson until 2022, I'm taking Bortles and the new guy. Jackson is fast, elusive and unlike other QBs, but give defenses an offseason to watch his tape and Ravens fans will miss Flacco. If he pops his ACL and comes back two-tenths of a second slower, they'll be wishing they'd traded for Bortles instead.

Lamar can be two tenths slower and still the most agile QB in the league. I'd be willing to bet on his passing ability over Blake's too.

(12-30-2018, 09:20 PM)lastonealive Wrote: [ -> ]Ah the good o Tebow all he does is win!

As a rookie, yes. If Ljax doesn't get any better then he'll be replaced too. But I suspect he will.

Do people think this is the 1950s where a new injury stops you from running anymore?