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I would've rather faced the Panthers with Cam Newton. Kyle Allen finally has their passing game looking decent. With Cam, they were in a funk.

(10-04-2019, 04:47 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]A couple of football guys said the key to either team winning lies with CMc for the Panthers and LF for the Jags. That's it. They also said it will be interesting to see the rookie QBs battle it out. One chose the Panthers to win and the other chose the Jags.

I don't know who these guys are but their "analysis" was way too simplistic. I'm not a fan of listening to a bunch of guys and gals basically guess and analyze games but am curious what the known football folks are saying. I may have to suck it up and check them out.

I pretty much agree that the key for the Jags is Leonard Fournette and the running game. A lot of people picking the Panthers because of their D. But their run defense is kind of MIA (missing in action, not Miami). Kind of interesting that the two teams came into the league at the same time (1995), both made it to their respective conference championships in their second season (1996), both are down to their backup quarterbacks, and their lifetime record against each other is 3-3. Panthers currently favored by 3.5 'cause, why not, home field. All in all sounds like a pick 'em game to me.

Continuing the theme of keep it simple, stoopid, I will say we're off to Charlotte and the Jags will win by 3.

(10-04-2019, 12:29 PM)Talented Kalamari Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-03-2019, 02:24 PM)hb1148 Wrote: [ -> ]I assume he's getting checked out by the medal staff and trainers. Injuries happen.

No offense, but if you actually believe that he’s dealing with any kind of back injury, you’re naive as heck.

Maybe you're right but he's given no evidence that he's faking. Until he proves otherwise, you have to take the man at his word. Unless you just assume people are automatically lying about everything. What a dark world you live in bro.

(10-04-2019, 07:18 PM)hb1148 Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-04-2019, 12:29 PM)Talented Kalamari Wrote: [ -> ]No offense, but if you actually believe that he’s dealing with any kind of back injury, you’re naive as heck.

Maybe you're right but he's given no evidence that he's faking. Until he proves otherwise, you have to take the man at his word. Unless you just assume people are automatically lying about everything. What a dark world you live in bro.

Well put. Theres so much information but so few facts.

I see it like this. I can either take Ramsey and the Jags at their word and he has an injury and with the trade request and missing practice is just bad timing.

Or Ramsey is faking, leaking, lying in the media, has abandoned his teammates and the franchise is covering for him. 

I dont know what is true, well see in the next few weeks with his availability and how the locker room treats him but I'm not going to just say hes lying.

You know the respect thing Jalen was talking about....

(10-04-2019, 07:18 PM)hb1148 Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-04-2019, 12:29 PM)Talented Kalamari Wrote: [ -> ]No offense, but if you actually believe that he’s dealing with any kind of back injury, you’re naive as heck.

Maybe you're right but he's given no evidence that he's faking. Until he proves otherwise, you have to take the man at his word. Unless you just assume people are automatically lying about everything. What a dark world you live in bro.

I’d rather live in a dark world than a phony one. The kid is faking it, everybody knows it. An outstanding physical talent that has been in word class shape his entire career just so happens to have “back problems” whilst coming off the “flu” and having serious issues with the FO? This guy is becoming a cancer to our team, and you fools won’t stop giving him the benefit of the doubt. He’s trying to make us cave and trade him. It’s clearly a leverage move, nothing more. Like I said, if using common sense and situational awareness makes me “dark”, id much rather be that than a fool.

(10-04-2019, 08:50 PM)Talented Kalamari Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-04-2019, 07:18 PM)hb1148 Wrote: [ -> ]Maybe you're right but he's given no evidence that he's faking. Until he proves otherwise, you have to take the man at his word. Unless you just assume people are automatically lying about everything. What a dark world you live in bro.

I’d rather live in a dark world than a phony one. The kid is faking it, everybody knows it. An outstanding physical talent that has been in word class shape his entire career just so happens to have “back problems” whilst coming off the “flu” and having serious issues with the FO? This guy is becoming a cancer to our team, and you fools won’t stop giving him the benefit of the doubt. He’s trying to make us cave and trade him. It’s clearly a leverage move, nothing more. Like I said, if using common sense and situational awareness makes me “dark”, id much rather be that than a fool.

In other news, Talented Kalamari reports the world is flat. Ok, maybe you're right but believe it or not injuries do happen in the NFL. The training staff and doctors have examined him and believe the injury is real. If the team starts fining him for missing games, you'll have more than one shaky leg to stand on with your conspiracy theory.

(10-04-2019, 08:56 PM)hb1148 Wrote: [ -> ]The training staff and doctors have examined him and believe the injury is real.

I know it's just dilla and not a checkmark, but he's been right about a lot and he said that the team has examined him and cleared him to practice/play...

(10-04-2019, 06:22 PM)ferocious Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-04-2019, 04:47 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]A couple of football guys said the key to either team winning lies with CMc for the Panthers and LF for the Jags. That's it. They also said it will be interesting to see the rookie QBs battle it out. One chose the Panthers to win and the other chose the Jags.

I don't know who these guys are but their "analysis" was way too simplistic. I'm not a fan of listening to a bunch of guys and gals basically guess and analyze games but am curious what the known football folks are saying. I may have to suck it up and check them out.

I pretty much agree that the key for the Jags is Leonard Fournette and the running game. A lot of people picking the Panthers because of their D. But their run defense is kind of MIA (missing in action, not Miami). Kind of interesting that the two teams came into the league at the same time (1995), both made it to their respective conference championships in their second season (1996), both are down to their backup quarterbacks, and their lifetime record against each other is 3-3. Panthers currently favored by 3.5 'cause, why not, home field. All in all sounds like a pick 'em game to me.

Continuing the theme of keep it simple, stoopid, I will say we're off to Charlotte and the Jags will win by 3.

I'd say Minshew is a bigger weapon than given credit for. And until I consistently see Fournette have a game like he did in Denver (or anywhere near that good) I'm not counting on him. His run game may be key but that's the first he's looked like that in awhile. I hope it sticks.

Americus, I was basing my thoughts on our running game being important this week on the fact that the Panther's run defense has been less than stout, and in fact the weakest link in the otherwise very decent defense. I am certainly in agreement that the jury is still out on Fournette, and that one game does not a season make. Further, I also agree that Minshew has already far exceeded all expectations, and has added a new excitement to this team and a new dimension to the offense. The Jaguars offense has become both far more balanced and far less predictable. I am a Minshew fan.

(10-04-2019, 08:56 PM)hb1148 Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-04-2019, 08:50 PM)Talented Kalamari Wrote: [ -> ]I’d rather live in a dark world than a phony one. The kid is faking it, everybody knows it. An outstanding physical talent that has been in word class shape his entire career just so happens to have “back problems” whilst coming off the “flu” and having serious issues with the FO? This guy is becoming a cancer to our team, and you fools won’t stop giving him the benefit of the doubt. He’s trying to make us cave and trade him. It’s clearly a leverage move, nothing more. Like I said, if using common sense and situational awareness makes me “dark”, id much rather be that than a fool.

In other news, Talented Kalamari reports the world is flat. Ok, maybe you're right but believe it or not injuries do happen in the NFL. The training staff and doctors have examined him and believe the injury is real. If the team starts fining him for missing games, you'll have more than one shaky leg to stand on with your conspiracy theory.

Lol. Fair enough.

(10-04-2019, 10:14 PM)ferocious Wrote: [ -> ]Americus, I was basing my thoughts on our running game being important this week on the fact that the Panther's run defense has been less than stout, and in fact the weakest link in the otherwise very decent defense. I am certainly in agreement that the jury is still out on Fournette, and that one game does not a season make. Further, I also agree that Minshew has already far exceeded all expectations, and has added a new excitement to this team and a new dimension to the offense. The Jaguars offense has become both far more balanced and far less predictable. I am a Minshew fan.

I got you.

DJ Hayden added to the injury report and is considered questionable (foot)

Not good, we need him out there with the loss of Ramsey.

Ugh

I like Herndon better in the slot than outside if DJ can’t play - but who plays opposite Bouye?

Borders?

(10-05-2019, 03:37 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]Ugh

I like Herndon better in the slot than outside if DJ can’t play - but who plays opposite Bouye?

Borders?

Never even heard of him. Not good.

(10-05-2019, 04:55 PM)Talented Kalamari Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-05-2019, 03:37 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]Ugh

I like Herndon better in the slot than outside if DJ can’t play - but who plays opposite Bouye? 

Borders?

Never even heard of him. Not good.

He played a lot in the pre-season. Mostly a special teams guy but he did flash enough to make the team. It's definitely not an ideal scenario.

(10-04-2019, 04:47 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]A couple of football guys said the key to either team winning lies with CMc for the Panthers and LF for the Jags. That's it. They also said it will be interesting to see the rookie QBs battle it out. One chose the Panthers to win and the other chose the Jags.

I don't know who these guys are but their "analysis" was way too simplistic. I'm not a fan of listening to a bunch of guys and gals basically guess and analyze games but am curious what the known football folks are saying. I may have to suck it up and check them out.

My thought is that this game is going to be a battle between two very good defenses and with a strong running game.  I'm guessing that special teams and/or turnovers are going to be the biggest factor in the outcome.

(10-05-2019, 05:54 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-04-2019, 04:47 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]A couple of football guys said the key to either team winning lies with CMc for the Panthers and LF for the Jags. That's it. They also said it will be interesting to see the rookie QBs battle it out. One chose the Panthers to win and the other chose the Jags.

I don't know who these guys are but their "analysis" was way too simplistic. I'm not a fan of listening to a bunch of guys and gals basically guess and analyze games but am curious what the known football folks are saying. I may have to suck it up and check them out.

My thought is that this game is going to be a battle between two very good defenses and with a strong running game.  I'm guessing that special teams and/or turnovers are going to be the biggest factor in the outcome.

Or penalties in our case, lol.

(10-05-2019, 06:24 PM)Brett Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-05-2019, 05:54 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: [ -> ]My thought is that this game is going to be a battle between two very good defenses and with a strong running game.  I'm guessing that special teams and/or turnovers are going to be the biggest factor in the outcome.

Or penalties in our case, lol.

Very true.  Although last week they did overcome a lot of them. Progress, I suppose.

Not got a good feeling about this one. I think Carolina's defense is somewhat overlooked and will force Minshew's worst game of the season, but ultimately we will disappoint on defense and that's what will cost us.

I also think that if we are to get a win we need a big game from Myles Jack. He's exactly the type of player that, on paper, matches up well with a versatile player like McCaffrey. If we are to slow down CMC, Jack needs to earn that big money we paid him.