(10-17-2019, 03:12 PM)JagsorDie Wrote: [ -> ] (10-17-2019, 03:07 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/APMarkLong/status/11...12962?s=20
Great news
I wonder if he'll be on some sort of snap count limitation, though.
Also, remember, he's a rookie who has not played at all yet.
(10-15-2019, 01:33 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]And now their other starting corner, William Jackson is out.
So no Jackson or Kirkpatrick. Jags should absolutely steam roll this game.
It never seems to work that way, though, does it?
Praying this team doesn't [BLEEP] this one up. Please don't [BLEEP] this up. Please don't [BLEEP] this up.
(10-18-2019, 06:04 AM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]Praying this team doesn't [BLEEP] this one up. Please don't [BLEEP] this up. Please don't [BLEEP] this up.
It’s Jags tradition to do just that.
Just announced Cordy Glenn suspended 1 game and wont play Sun. Now they lose their best olineman
(10-18-2019, 06:04 AM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]Praying this team doesn't [BLEEP] this one up. Please don't [BLEEP] this up. Please don't [BLEEP] this up.
Oh they will. If you have Dalton and Mixon, start them on your fantasy team.
(10-18-2019, 11:08 AM)Jagsfan32277 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-18-2019, 06:04 AM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]Praying this team doesn't [BLEEP] this one up. Please don't [BLEEP] this up. Please don't [BLEEP] this up.
Oh they will. If you have Dalton and Mixon, start them on your fantasy team.
You really aren't too bright are you?
(10-18-2019, 01:32 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ] (10-18-2019, 12:48 AM)JagFan81 Wrote: [ -> ]John Jerry at LT? The guy is awful. Yannick should have a 4-5 sack day Sunday.
Jerry is indeed, awful. Their entire offensive line is. They drafted Jonah Williams to be the LT, but he immediately gets hurt before the season begins and he is gone for the year. Cordy Glenn was supposed to move inside to LG, but with Williams hurt, he has to stay at LT and he gets hurt. Longtime LG Clint Boling retires. RT Bobby Hart is a disaster and the guy they drafted in 2018 to be the Center of the future (Billy Price) has been disappointing as well. He lost his starting job to undrafted Trey Hopkins and now, the team is trying Price at LG, because they are running out of guys to fill the starting positions. This could be the weakest O-line in the NFL. I will be hugely disappointed if we don't get at least 5 sacks as a team.
They had a really nice team about 6-7 years ago but their Oline has held them back the last few years. Like you say, theyve tried a lot of ways to fix that line but it never works out. Now with injuries and everything, they just seem to be looking for just 5 guys to throw out there.
D line should be feasting Sunday.
(10-17-2019, 04:12 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ] (10-17-2019, 03:07 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/APMarkLong/status/11...12962?s=20
This guy is always touch and go because his hamstring injury is continually aggravated. If he plays this weekend, I’m expecting him to limp to the sidelines as a mid game scratch.
GET OUT OF MY HEAD
I'll be in the second row, 40 yard line cheering at this game. Hopefully we win. Last Jags/Bengals game i went to was a big disappointment.
Massive game.
Huge get-right opportunity for Minshew. Fournette should feast. Pass rushers should feast.
Losing will plunge us into darkness.
Which hashtag is mightier? #MinshewMania or #BecauseJaguars?
(10-18-2019, 11:41 AM)JagJohn Wrote: [ -> ]Massive game.
Huge get-right opportunity for Minshew. Fournette should feast. Pass rushers should feast.
Losing will plunge us into darkness.
Which hashtag is mightier? #MinshewMania or #BecauseJaguars?
I like it.
It takes a hashtag to beat a hashtag
(10-18-2019, 11:10 AM)Rico Wrote: [ -> ] (10-18-2019, 11:08 AM)Jagsfan32277 Wrote: [ -> ]Oh they will. If you have Dalton and Mixon, start them on your fantasy team.
You really aren't too bright are you?
One of the few people I actually blocked on this board.
and to answer your question, no he isn't.
But I'm pretty sure there are a handful of people on here purposefully ignorant and/or obtuse
Good read here: https://sports.yahoo.com/the-five-most-p...02580.html
Does a smash game for the Jaguars represent a new era (and is tanking worth it)?
Much of the analysis following the trade of Jalen Ramsey has been directed toward the Rams’ side of the deal. That’s understandable. Los Angeles was a Super Bowl participant last year and continues to defy the traditional norms of team-building.
The angle is just as interesting for the Jaguars. It cost them a true defensive difference-maker but Jacksonville is now in a position to continue their reboot armed with a pair of first-round picks in each of the next two drafts. Whether Ramsey was in the fold or not, the team that takes the field this Sunday will be quite different from the one that was pushing for a Super Bowl appearance less than two years ago.
It’s obvious the defense isn’t the same unit it was back in the 2017 season. Just as notable, the offense is a completely transformed operation. The Leonard Fournette of that season was a fine running back but had noticeable flaws. Here in 2019, Fournette looks much more like the type of offensive centerpiece the team imagined. Only one running back has handled more touches than him so far this season, and that’s supposed MVP-candidate, Christian McCaffrey. Once a question mark, Fournette’s catches per game have nearly doubled from his first two seasons and he’s run 10 more routes than any running back in the league. He’s done well with the chances too, clearing five yards per rush.
A receiver corps that rolled out Marqise Lee and Allen Hurns has now replaced that woebegone pair with inspiring youth. D.J. Chark is third in the NFL with 528 receiving yards and has been nothing short of a revelation. Veterans Chris Conley and Dede Westbrook have settled into strong role players behind him. Rookie passer Gardner Minshew has turned into one of the stories of the season. His precision and fearlessness have come to define the rest of the team.
With this offense as a baseline, it suddenly looks like Jacksonville doesn’t have far to go to revamp a roster that saw its window slammed shut after just one year while riding an all-time defense. That causes us to raise an eyebrow at the rest of the league.
As you look at the tanking outfits — like the Dolphins — across the NFL and then look at the position Jacksonville finds itself in, you begin to wonder if putting out a torturous product for a year is worth it. Following the Blake Bortles double-down disaster, Jacksonville looked like it was staring at a potential slew of 6-10- to- 8-8 stuck-in-the-mud seasons — seasons that have put Miami in a place where they felt bottoming out was the only way to get out.
Now, the Jaguars are loaded with picks and have promising spots all throughout their roster. It didn’t cost them a truly soul-sucking season to get here.
Of course, there are certain strokes of luck that one must get to be there. Cashing in a sixth-round pick for a possible solution at quarterback is ultra-rate. Few teams have disgruntled superstars to ship off for multiple Round 1 selections. Yet, teams have been rebuilding in the NFL for years without completely stripping the roster for parts. Certain breaks are needed for such a strategy. Not everyone gets them.
At the end of the day, the full tear-down model does greatly increase the margin for error. Talent evaluation and hitting on draft picks is deeply challenging. Having more is helpful. That’s why teams elect to go for this path. Still, seeing a team like Jacksonville boasting some of the same resources as a tanking team while running some true building blocks out on the field and suddenly providing promise in the current season should make a team think twice before they hit the self-destruct button.
Jacksonville’s offensive promise will be on full display in Week 7. The team will travel to face a Cincinnati defense that’s in complete shambles. Already struggling to defend the pass, the Bengals will play this week without their top two corners in William Jackson and Dre Kirkpatrick. We should see Minshew put up another workmanlike fantasy outing and involve Chark in the vertical game once again. And still, it’s worth wondering if Jacksonville’s passing game will need to do all that much, as this looks like a total smash spot for Fournette. The workhorse back will barrel through a Bengals front that is currently the only team to allow over 1,000 rushing yards on the season.
Not only are fantasy football gamers suddenly interested in multiple Jaguars for the first time since the Allen Robinson 14-touchdown season of 2015, but the franchise is staring at hope before they likely thought they could have it. The organization had to stumble it’s way into this, so much so that it’s hard to assign much credit to the decision-makers. Nevertheless, regardless of the path they took, the sun is shining brighter on this operation than we could have expected when they were seemingly headed to a top draft pick at warp speed when Nick Foles went down in Week 1.
(10-18-2019, 12:59 PM)JagJohn Wrote: [ -> ]Good read here: https://sports.yahoo.com/the-five-most-p...02580.html
Does a smash game for the Jaguars represent a new era (and is tanking worth it)?
Much of the analysis following the trade of Jalen Ramsey has been directed toward the Rams’ side of the deal. That’s understandable. Los Angeles was a Super Bowl participant last year and continues to defy the traditional norms of team-building.
The angle is just as interesting for the Jaguars. It cost them a true defensive difference-maker but Jacksonville is now in a position to continue their reboot armed with a pair of first-round picks in each of the next two drafts. Whether Ramsey was in the fold or not, the team that takes the field this Sunday will be quite different from the one that was pushing for a Super Bowl appearance less than two years ago.
It’s obvious the defense isn’t the same unit it was back in the 2017 season. Just as notable, the offense is a completely transformed operation. The Leonard Fournette of that season was a fine running back but had noticeable flaws. Here in 2019, Fournette looks much more like the type of offensive centerpiece the team imagined. Only one running back has handled more touches than him so far this season, and that’s supposed MVP-candidate, Christian McCaffrey. Once a question mark, Fournette’s catches per game have nearly doubled from his first two seasons and he’s run 10 more routes than any running back in the league. He’s done well with the chances too, clearing five yards per rush.
A receiver corps that rolled out Marqise Lee and Allen Hurns has now replaced that woebegone pair with inspiring youth. D.J. Chark is third in the NFL with 528 receiving yards and has been nothing short of a revelation. Veterans Chris Conley and Dede Westbrook have settled into strong role players behind him. Rookie passer Gardner Minshew has turned into one of the stories of the season. His precision and fearlessness have come to define the rest of the team.
With this offense as a baseline, it suddenly looks like Jacksonville doesn’t have far to go to revamp a roster that saw its window slammed shut after just one year while riding an all-time defense. That causes us to raise an eyebrow at the rest of the league.
As you look at the tanking outfits — like the Dolphins — across the NFL and then look at the position Jacksonville finds itself in, you begin to wonder if putting out a torturous product for a year is worth it. Following the Blake Bortles double-down disaster, Jacksonville looked like it was staring at a potential slew of 6-10- to- 8-8 stuck-in-the-mud seasons — seasons that have put Miami in a place where they felt bottoming out was the only way to get out.
Now, the Jaguars are loaded with picks and have promising spots all throughout their roster. It didn’t cost them a truly soul-sucking season to get here.
Of course, there are certain strokes of luck that one must get to be there. Cashing in a sixth-round pick for a possible solution at quarterback is ultra-rate. Few teams have disgruntled superstars to ship off for multiple Round 1 selections. Yet, teams have been rebuilding in the NFL for years without completely stripping the roster for parts. Certain breaks are needed for such a strategy. Not everyone gets them.
At the end of the day, the full tear-down model does greatly increase the margin for error. Talent evaluation and hitting on draft picks is deeply challenging. Having more is helpful. That’s why teams elect to go for this path. Still, seeing a team like Jacksonville boasting some of the same resources as a tanking team while running some true building blocks out on the field and suddenly providing promise in the current season should make a team think twice before they hit the self-destruct button.
Jacksonville’s offensive promise will be on full display in Week 7. The team will travel to face a Cincinnati defense that’s in complete shambles. Already struggling to defend the pass, the Bengals will play this week without their top two corners in William Jackson and Dre Kirkpatrick. We should see Minshew put up another workmanlike fantasy outing and involve Chark in the vertical game once again. And still, it’s worth wondering if Jacksonville’s passing game will need to do all that much, as this looks like a total smash spot for Fournette. The workhorse back will barrel through a Bengals front that is currently the only team to allow over 1,000 rushing yards on the season.
Not only are fantasy football gamers suddenly interested in multiple Jaguars for the first time since the Allen Robinson 14-touchdown season of 2015, but the franchise is staring at hope before they likely thought they could have it. The organization had to stumble it’s way into this, so much so that it’s hard to assign much credit to the decision-makers. Nevertheless, regardless of the path they took, the sun is shining brighter on this operation than we could have expected when they were seemingly headed to a top draft pick at warp speed when Nick Foles went down in Week 1.
1996 Pointing Back At Us in 2019 Like:
![[Image: jags-coughlin-2.gif]](https://sportshub.cbsistatic.com/i/r/2018/06/29/436179e3-7e2a-4acb-9cfa-3a1480a1a66b/resize/750x422/9ccadd51eeb777010f78d42535d36fb3/jags-coughlin-2.gif)
Good grief.
The Bengals injury report is so long. Jags really should cruise in this one.
(10-18-2019, 02:33 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]Good grief.
The Bengals injury report is so long. Jags really should cruise in this one.
Yeah, it's about as bad as ours got last year. I wonder how many of them are faking it?
(10-18-2019, 03:05 PM)scottyg Wrote: [ -> ] (10-18-2019, 02:33 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]Good grief.
The Bengals injury report is so long. Jags really should cruise in this one.
Yeah, it's about as bad as ours got last year. I wonder how many of them are faking it?
They are on cruise control.
Myles Jack please do not give them a reason to wake up
(10-15-2019, 07:14 PM)Senor Fantastico Wrote: [ -> ] (10-15-2019, 03:35 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: [ -> ]Absolutely. Play with a lead for a change and give the defense a chance to pin their ears back.
I disagree with this. While defense has been a "letdown" some this season, they are still the team's main strength. Get an early stop or a turnover early and give the offense a chance to put points on the board.
In the last 3 games they've deferred and have gone into the half tied, down one score, and down two scores respectively - finishing 1-2 in those games. Against the Titans, the Titans deferred, the Jaguars immediately went up 14-0 and went on to dominate the game.
Take. The. Ball.
Very. Good. Point.
(10-18-2019, 05:57 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ] (10-17-2019, 03:12 PM)JagsorDie Wrote: [ -> ]Great news
I wonder if he'll be on some sort of snap count limitation, though.
Also, remember, he's a rookie who has not played at all yet.
Probably one snap. They won't want to overdo it.