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If anything, we'll trade him to the Rams... lol

(10-22-2019, 01:57 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-22-2019, 11:33 AM)Rico Wrote: [ -> ]Whereas you you are steadfastly negative no matter whether you are wrong or right...no matter what your username...about anything Jaguars related.  

I commend you on your consistency.

Nope I am just unbiased. I'll call good what is good, and what is bad bad. I defended guys like Arob, Parnell, and Abry Jones when they were getting bashed. Unfortunately, when we've been on record setting streaks for top 10 picks and such...lots of what's real is indeed negative.

...or you just disappear from threads when proven wrong.

(10-22-2019, 03:52 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-22-2019, 02:37 PM)Senor Fantastico Wrote: [ -> ]You're an intelligent poster and I like a lot of your reasoning but I'm not sure if a more biased guy exist on this whole forum.

I can understand how lack of bias would look like bias when it's floating in a sea of bias.

You couldn't even give Taven Bryan credit for a single good play on that pick 6 this week because he's not one of your guys. Lol that's a strong bias man. 

Fournette having a pretty good season? Haven't seen you comment on it whatsoever. Except to point out what he's still bad it. Bias. 

DJ Hayden one of the best defenders on the field this season? Crickets from you.

If they trade Yannick I will be done until they get rid of this FO. Seems like if you are elite that is the kiss of death.

Might as well trade him, it's not like he is gonna sign here.

(10-22-2019, 02:12 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]I'm not backpedaling anything. I guarantee if this rumor about Yannick had come up before Sunday the responses in this post would have been completely different than they are.

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I've said it multiple times before the season started... I've continued to say it weeks ago, and I'll stay saying it...

PAY THE MAN! PAY HIM RIGHT THE [BLEEP] NOW!

If this team trades away Ngakoue, then this front office officially needs to be taken out back behind the wood shed and they need to be put down..

You simply have to pay Ngakoue. He loves Jacksonville and wants to play for us. When is the last time you can say that for a star player?

(10-22-2019, 08:33 PM)Talented Kalamari Wrote: [ -> ]You simply have to pay Ngakoue. He loves Jacksonville and wants to play for us. When is the last time you can say that for a star player?

Pretty sure people were saying that about Ramsey two months ago.

(10-22-2019, 11:00 PM)TJBender Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-22-2019, 08:33 PM)Talented Kalamari Wrote: [ -> ]You simply have to pay Ngakoue. He loves Jacksonville and wants to play for us. When is the last time you can say that for a star player?

Pretty sure people were saying that about Ramsey two months ago.

The difference is Ramsey never wanted to be in Jax, Ngakoue does. You don’t see Ngakoue saying what other teams he’d rather be on, sending mixed messages, and faking injuries. He’s expressed he wants to play in Jax

He's over rated. He's a good player. That's his bracket.

Pay Yan

Ngakoue isn't a star player?

Yannick was 3rd in the league in QB hits last season, he's still a high quality player just played through an injury to start the year off.

I think its a no brainer to sign him + he seems to genuinely want to play and stay here from the little we can glean from these situations.

Yannick and Josh Allen off the edge for the next 5 years is a really good way to keep the defense competitive year in year out.

https://twitter.com/jeffzrebiec/status/1...59908?s=21

Good.

Keep him off the block and at the negotiation table.

Pay the man.

(10-22-2019, 09:19 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-22-2019, 09:15 AM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]If Mike Ditka was in Baltimore and offered up a Ricky Williams type trade you all know you'd take it.

There's a price for everything. 

No one is offering 7 draft picks (including two firsts) for Ngakoue though.

7 picks? Now, that's just unreasonable.

I'd take three consecutive firsts for Yan.

(10-23-2019, 03:50 AM)knarnn Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/jeffzrebiec/status/1...59908?s=21

Good.

Keep him off the block and at the negotiation table.

Pay the man.

I would never say something as one-sided as "pay the man."  I would say, "Try to get the man to accept a reasonable contract."  

"Pay the man" sounds like "Pay him whatever he wants."  <No

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(10-22-2019, 08:22 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-22-2019, 02:12 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]I'm not backpedaling anything. I guarantee if this rumor about Yannick had come up before Sunday the responses in this post would have been completely different than they are.

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I've said it multiple times before the season started... I've continued to say it weeks ago, and I'll stay saying it...

PAY THE MAN! PAY HIM RIGHT THE [BLEEP] NOW!

If this team trades away Ngakoue, then this front office officially needs to be taken out back behind the wood shed and they need to be put down..

Pay him how much?  It's not as simple as just "pay him."  It sounds like you would just ask him what he wants, and give it to him.

(10-22-2019, 03:52 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-22-2019, 02:37 PM)Senor Fantastico Wrote: [ -> ]You're an intelligent poster and I like a lot of your reasoning but I'm not sure if a more biased guy exist on this whole forum.

I can understand how lack of bias would look like bias when it's floating in a sea of bias.

Everyone has bias. The inability to acknowledge bias in oneself is itself a sign of bias.

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(10-23-2019, 01:41 AM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ]Yannick was 3rd in the league in QB hits last season, he's still a high quality player just played through an injury to start the year off.  

I think its a no brainer to sign him + he seems to genuinely want to play and stay here from the little we can glean from these situations.  

Yannick and Josh Allen off the edge for the next 5 years is a really good way to keep the defense competitive year in year out.

I agree they should sign him but you can't pay him like, say, a franchise QB. We don't really know what the offer was in the off-season but he (or his agent) decided it wasn't good enough. At least the reported offer sounds like the team was willing to spend big money on him. I hope they can get it worked out at some point.

(10-23-2019, 07:32 AM)hb1148 Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-22-2019, 03:52 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]I can understand how lack of bias would look like bias when it's floating in a sea of bias.

Everyone has bias. The inability to acknowledge bias in oneself is itself a sign of bias.

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(10-23-2019, 01:41 AM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ]Yannick was 3rd in the league in QB hits last season, he's still a high quality player just played through an injury to start the year off.  

I think its a no brainer to sign him + he seems to genuinely want to play and stay here from the little we can glean from these situations.  

Yannick and Josh Allen off the edge for the next 5 years is a really good way to keep the defense competitive year in year out.

I agree they should sign him but you can't pay him like, say, a franchise QB. We don't really know what the offer was in the off-season but he (or his agent) decided it wasn't good enough. At least the reported offer sounds like the team was willing to spend big money on him. I hope they can get it worked out at some point.

What do you determine franchise QB cost to be? Deal should be anywhere from 18-21 million which is fine by me. 

Yeah it's hard to tell. Yannicks agent is pretty good at getting big deals for his clients, but whatever was offered it was bad enough that Yannick chose to play a full season on the cheap. 

I still think it's get done for the simple reason that it seems like Yannick really wants to be here and the Jags staff and organisation seem to have a good amount of respect for him. I don't get the vibe there is a contentious relationship there

(10-22-2019, 10:56 AM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-22-2019, 10:31 AM)JagFan81 Wrote: [ -> ]Trade everyone! 53 picks coming up! 

We can activate the Roar.

The worry buddy would be after they get a first down it would be how many picks can we get for them?!!

wasn't the general consensus he turned down the deal not because of the $$$ but the length of the contract?
And nO WAY is he being traded....whoever started that crock?