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For me personally, I was 100% there after 2 ugly division losses.

Three divisional beat-downs is a nail in the coffin without question.
No way can Khan make the statement he made at the end of 2018 and not replace this coaching staff.

I don’t even get indignant anymore. Sadly, I’m just indifferent now. How many years do fans have to be ground into a nub with not just bad play and coaching, but epic, record setting bad play and coaching. Rather than raising the bar, they continually move it downwards into new depths of deficiency every season. I don’t think I’ve ever been so jaded with this team as I am now.

(11-25-2019, 09:35 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]I don’t even get indignant anymore. Sadly, I’m just indifferent now. How many years do fans have to be ground into a nub with not just bad play and coaching, but epic, record setting bad play and coaching. Rather than raising the bar, they continually move it downwards into new depths of deficiency every season. I don’t think I’ve ever been so jaded with this team as I am now.

Yeah. It's a shame this is the point in the season we get a run of home games. LOL

I can only attend one more game anyway due to travel, but I have a work offer on the table for that day too. 
Might just take it. 
Too bad I won't get a penny for my tickets if I don't go. Ain't nobody paying even half their face value at this point. 

To your point, I've already just moved on to new staff and player acquisition/draft thoughts. I'm going to just bypass getting upset about this latest in-season debacle.

(11-25-2019, 09:35 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]I don’t even get indignant anymore. Sadly, I’m just indifferent now. How many years do fans have to be ground into a nub with not just bad play and coaching, but epic, record setting bad play and coaching. Rather than raising the bar, they continually move it downwards into new depths of deficiency every season. I don’t think I’ve ever been so jaded with this team as I am now.

Yup, it's just apathy now. Seeing the Jags concede god-knows-how-many points in the first 5 minutes of the third quarter yesterday just caused a wry chuckle.

Time to blindly turn my attention to coaching changes and the draft, as if that has ever made much of a difference round here anyway. Just seems like groundhog day.

If Khan doesn't go Old Testament on the coaching staff the day after the season is over I will have lost all respect and confidence in him as the owner of this team and a businessman invested in the city.

(11-25-2019, 10:00 AM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]If Khan doesn't go Old Testament on the coaching staff the day after the season is over I will have lost all respect and confidence in him as the owner of this team and a businessman invested in the city.

Why wait for the season to be over in January? The season is over now so let's get all these guys out of here and start the search.

(11-25-2019, 10:06 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-25-2019, 10:00 AM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]If Khan doesn't go Old Testament on the coaching staff the day after the season is over I will have lost all respect and confidence in him as the owner of this team and a businessman invested in the city.

Why wait for the season to be over in January? The season is over now so let's get all these guys out of here and start the search.

If today wasn't Judgement Day for Wash at the very least, it's not likely to come for anyone until the season is over.

(11-25-2019, 08:53 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]Can I have your attention, please? I have something I think you all ought to know about. It seems that Mr. Khan doesn't think too highly of our worth. He put this team together because he thought we'd be bad enough to finish dead last, knocking attendance down to the point where he could move the team to London... and get rid of all of us for better personnel.

It'll be two home games first. The new CBA and network deals will hose smaller markets, and ticket sales will remain low as the team sinks back into mediocrity. We'll start to get rumblings that Khan is looking into the legalities and technicalities of playing overseas full time, and working with the league to figure out salary cap tweaks and logistics of having a team based in London. Things like away games being clumped into 3-4 game stretches so the team (which will probably ditch the Jaguars moniker) isn't flying back and forth to America every week. Then the inevitable talk of TIAA Bank Field being outdated and in need of massive refurbishment or complete replacement will come up. The downtown development will continue to go nowhere, and finally Khan will come out and say that keeping the Jaguars in Jacksonville was somehow dependent upon that downtown development, then dump the property onto someone like Sleiman who'll jump at the chance to buy it all up on the cheap. With the development dead, tickets not selling, the stadium being too old to remain viable and the new CBA and TV deal being so unfavorable for smaller markets, the team is no longer viable in Jacksonville.

By 2024, this team will be based in London.

(11-25-2019, 09:17 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]No way can Khan make the statement he made at the end of 2018 and not replace this coaching staff.

Unless everyone involved screws up and pulls a couple of late-season wins out of their [BLEEP].

(11-25-2019, 10:22 AM)TJBender Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-25-2019, 08:53 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]Can I have your attention, please? I have something I think you all ought to know about. It seems that Mr. Khan doesn't think too highly of our worth. He put this team together because he thought we'd be bad enough to finish dead last, knocking attendance down to the point where he could move the team to London... and get rid of all of us for better personnel.

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By 2024, this team will be based in London.

(11-25-2019, 09:17 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]No way can Khan make the statement he made at the end of 2018 and not replace this coaching staff.

Unless everyone involved screws up and pulls a couple of late-season wins out of their [BLEEP].

I disagree that a few wins would save anyone after these divisional blowouts and I completely disagree with your London conspiracy theory. 

The NFL will need a full division based across the ocean to make it work IMO. 
Not happening.  I actually wonder if the international series will even advance beyond its current scope before it  begins to fizzle out.

FBT, I too was trying to be patient. Foles was coming back, let's see if the first quarter (ish) of game 1 was a preview, or just a few good plays in a row.

Sadly, the offense appears vanilla, and if Fournette goes down, the offense disappears completely. However, the offense cannot account for the mismanagement on defense. If Doug refuses to do something to address the problem, it now becomes something that Dave or Tom have to address.

I like the idea of canning Doug, and letting Joe D take over the HC duty. Send Wash packing, and let Capers try his hand with the roster. This is their interview, dress rehearsal, call it what you want. The continual cycle of losing and lethargy has to be broken. Try hard isn't all we need.

We need someone who is going to light a fire under the feet of the underperformers. Someone who is going to put players in positions to succeed. We need to see if the players are receptive to new voices in the locker room and practice fields. I don't see the reason to let Doug and Todd play out the season, especially if we are looking for replacements come January.

We just can't have fun. Minshew wasn't all world but it was exciting. Did I think he was going to win every game? Heck no, but he played above expectations and we had something to talk about. Then the coaches got involved and started game planning once they "figured out" his strengths. And with their game plans the fun evaporated.

(11-25-2019, 10:52 AM)MoJagFan Wrote: [ -> ]We just can't have fun.  Minshew wasn't all world but it was exciting.  Did I think he was going to win every game?  Heck no, but he played above expectations and we had something to talk about.  Then the coaches got involved and started game planning once they "figured out" his strengths.  And with their game plans the fun evaporated.

Minshew was one of the only reasons to watch this team. He was exciting and brought energy. Foles is a dud.

(11-04-2019, 01:13 PM)snowwolf776 Wrote: [ -> ]Head Coach

Head coach with football smarts

Head coach with  imaginenation

Head coach that knows how to win division games more then loseing them.


Head coach with fire like minshew has.

Head coach that yells at players for messing up when they do,but encorges them after hes done yelling at them. 


al around jags have talent,they just need a real Head coach.

(11-25-2019, 10:00 AM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]If Khan doesn't go Old Testament on the coaching staff the day after the season is over I will have lost all respect and confidence in him as the owner of this team and a businessman invested in the city.

I think most of us here are done. Jaguars football is over for the year with a lower middle of the pack finish.
At least I'll get some things done around the house instead of watching TV.

and by the way......if they take this clown show to London full time they'll get run out of there with constant losing like this

(11-25-2019, 10:06 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-25-2019, 10:00 AM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]If Khan doesn't go Old Testament on the coaching staff the day after the season is over I will have lost all respect and confidence in him as the owner of this team and a businessman invested in the city.

Why wait for the season to be over in January? The season is over now so let's get all these guys out of here and start the search.

I don't think the team can even operate with no coaching staff and no front office and 5 games to play.  We have to wait until the offseason, and then fire everybody.  

And even if we fire some of the coaching staff, which ones remain and take over those positions?  I don't think DeFillipo or Wash deserve a promotion to head coach.  I don't see any of the assistant coaches that deserve promotion to coordinator.

(11-25-2019, 10:22 AM)TJBender Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-25-2019, 08:53 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]Can I have your attention, please? I have something I think you all ought to know about. It seems that Mr. Khan doesn't think too highly of our worth. He put this team together because he thought we'd be bad enough to finish dead last, knocking attendance down to the point where he could move the team to London... and get rid of all of us for better personnel.

It'll be two home games first. The new CBA and network deals will hose smaller markets, and ticket sales will remain low as the team sinks back into mediocrity. We'll start to get rumblings that Khan is looking into the legalities and technicalities of playing overseas full time, and working with the league to figure out salary cap tweaks and logistics of having a team based in London. Things like away games being clumped into 3-4 game stretches so the team (which will probably ditch the Jaguars moniker) isn't flying back and forth to America every week. Then the inevitable talk of TIAA Bank Field being outdated and in need of massive refurbishment or complete replacement will come up. The downtown development will continue to go nowhere, and finally Khan will come out and say that keeping the Jaguars in Jacksonville was somehow dependent upon that downtown development, then dump the property onto someone like Sleiman who'll jump at the chance to buy it all up on the cheap. With the development dead, tickets not selling, the stadium being too old to remain viable and the new CBA and TV deal being so unfavorable for smaller markets, the team is no longer viable in Jacksonville.

By 2024, this team will be based in London.

(11-25-2019, 09:17 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]No way can Khan make the statement he made at the end of 2018 and not replace this coaching staff.

Unless everyone involved screws up and pulls a couple of late-season wins out of their [BLEEP].

Freakin' nailed it.

(11-25-2019, 11:39 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-25-2019, 10:06 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]Why wait for the season to be over in January? The season is over now so let's get all these guys out of here and start the search.

I don't think the team can even operate with no coaching staff and no front office and 5 games to play.  We have to wait until the offseason, and then fire everybody.  

And even if we fire some of the coaching staff, which ones remain and take over those positions?  I don't think DeFillipo or Wash deserve a promotion to head coach.  I don't see any of the assistant coaches that deserve promotion to coordinator.

Lol You don't have to wait at all. Season is over dude.

(11-24-2019, 10:45 PM)Brett Wrote: [ -> ]Sidenote, I noticed Will Richardson was a healthy scratch today. Anyone know why?

(11-25-2019, 11:39 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-25-2019, 10:06 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]Why wait for the season to be over in January? The season is over now so let's get all these guys out of here and start the search.

I don't think the team can even operate with no coaching staff and no front office and 5 games to play.  We have to wait until the offseason, and then fire everybody.  

And even if we fire some of the coaching staff, which ones remain and take over those positions?  I don't think DeFillipo or Wash deserve a promotion to head coach.  I don't see any of the assistant coaches that deserve promotion to coordinator.

I'll suggest again, Dom Capers. He's on the staff already in an advisory role, he and Coughlin have a history and he's got head coaching experience. It's just a stop gap until the clean sweep coming in the offseason and it makes a point to fire Marrone.

(11-25-2019, 12:08 PM)hb1148 Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-24-2019, 10:45 PM)Brett Wrote: [ -> ]Sidenote, I noticed Will Richardson was a healthy scratch today. Anyone know why?

(11-25-2019, 11:39 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]I don't think the team can even operate with no coaching staff and no front office and 5 games to play.  We have to wait until the offseason, and then fire everybody.  

And even if we fire some of the coaching staff, which ones remain and take over those positions?  I don't think DeFillipo or Wash deserve a promotion to head coach.  I don't see any of the assistant coaches that deserve promotion to coordinator.

I'll suggest again, Dom Capers. He's on the staff already in an advisory role, he and Coughlin have a history and he's got head coaching experience. It's just a stop gap until the clean sweep coming in the offseason and it makes a point to fire Marrone.

Capers or a guy like Joe DeCamillis could guide this team into the offseason.

Anyone notice Foles' quote after the game?

“We as men, we as people, we as players that care about one another, have to keep moving forward, have to keep working, have to keep loving one another."

Like bro, I respect you and your calmness but to hear a quote about continuing to just love one another is not something fans want to hear right now, lol. Give me that killer instinct Nick!

(11-25-2019, 12:34 PM)FBT Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-25-2019, 12:08 PM)hb1148 Wrote: [ -> ]I'll suggest again, Dom Capers. He's on the staff already in an advisory role, he and Coughlin have a history and he's got head coaching experience. It's just a stop gap until the clean sweep coming in the offseason and it makes a point to fire Marrone.

Capers or a guy like Joe DeCamillis could guide this team into the offseason.

With no real quandary about them getting the HC gig next year.