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Both of these guys had a few interesting things to say, beginning with Marrone stating that the QB position will be an open competition between the 3 players on the roster. 

(Dave, meanwhile cited Gardner as "someone we can build around should we choose to") 

I'll post the full videos soon.
Key points:

- nothing new on Yann
- Bouye's contract not unreasonable, team will explore options though
- nothing new on Campbell
- they are interested in bringing Dareus back
- Dave thinks Oliver and Q. Williams are candidates to make a Chark-esque leap in their 2nd years
- Jack could well be moving to Will
- Dave said the O-line is one of our strengths, also talked about off script QBs in regards to that
- Doug said Minshew, Foles and Dobbs will all be competing to start
- Both Doug and Dave talked positively about Fournette, Dave said a decision on the 5th year will come after the draft
Based on Caldwell's comments about Jack I suspect/wonder if we we may see three or four distinct (personnel-wise) LB packages depending upon player acquisition.


  • An early down base package (featuring 3 LBs)
  • An early down nickel package
  • A third down nickel package
  • Lastly - a less common short yardage, base/heavy package (goalline etc)

I think we may see more variance in personnel among these packages in an attempt to utilize skillsets. 
I think they may go back to moving Jack around situationally and try to coach him up to focus on his specific role per snap rather than everyone else's. 

It's a stretch, but I'm spitballing here.
(02-25-2020, 01:17 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]Based on Caldwell's comments about Jack I suspect/wonder if we we may see three or four distinct LB packages depending upon player acquisition.


  • An early down base package (featuring 3 LBs)
  • An early down nickel package
  • A third down nickel package
  • Lastly - a less common short yardage, base/heavy package (goalline etc)

I think we may see more variance in personnel in an attempt to utilize skillsets. 
I think they may go back to moving Jack around situationally and try to coach him up to focus on his specific role per snap rather than everyone else's. 

It's a stretch, but I'm spitballing here.

Yeah I think you're right, especially with him talking up Quincy Williams' versatility and coverage ability too.
(02-25-2020, 01:20 PM)JagJohn Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-25-2020, 01:17 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]Based on Caldwell's comments about Jack I suspect/wonder if we we may see three or four distinct LB packages depending upon player acquisition.


  • An early down base package (featuring 3 LBs)
  • An early down nickel package
  • A third down nickel package
  • Lastly - a less common short yardage, base/heavy package (goalline etc)

I think we may see more variance in personnel in an attempt to utilize skillsets. 
I think they may go back to moving Jack around situationally and try to coach him up to focus on his specific role per snap rather than everyone else's. 

It's a stretch, but I'm spitballing here.

Yeah I think you're right, especially with him talking up Quincy Williams' versatility and coverage ability too.

Imagine adding Isaiah Simmons to that mix.
(02-25-2020, 01:15 PM)JagJohn Wrote: [ -> ]Key points:

- nothing new on Yann
- Bouye's contract not unreasonable, team will explore options though
- nothing new on Campbell
- they are interested in bringing Dareus back
- Dave thinks Oliver and Q. Williams are candidates to make a Chark-esque leap in their 2nd years
- Jack could well be moving to Will
- Dave said the O-line is one of our strengths, also talked about off script QBs in regards to that
- Doug said Minshew, Foles and Dobbs will all be competing to start
- Both Doug and Dave talked positively about Fournette, Dave said a decision on the 5th year will come after the draft

Wow lol
(02-25-2020, 02:00 PM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-25-2020, 01:15 PM)JagJohn Wrote: [ -> ]Key points:

- nothing new on Yann
- Bouye's contract not unreasonable, team will explore options though
- nothing new on Campbell
- they are interested in bringing Dareus back
- Dave thinks Oliver and Q. Williams are candidates to make a Chark-esque leap in their 2nd years
- Jack could well be moving to Will
- Dave said the O-line is one of our strengths, also talked about off script QBs in regards to that
- Doug said Minshew, Foles and Dobbs will all be competing to start
- Both Doug and Dave talked positively about Fournette, Dave said a decision on the 5th year will come after the draft

Wow lol

Yeah that one kind of stood out.

I wanna listen to it again to understand the exact context, but it could be a sign they won't be looking at OL early in the draft.

I still think Can Robinson is our most likely starting LT next year.
(02-25-2020, 02:14 PM)JagJohn Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-25-2020, 02:00 PM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: [ -> ]Wow lol

Yeah that one kind of stood out.

I wanna listen to it again to understand the exact context, but it could be a sign they won't be looking at OL early in the draft.

I still think Can Robinson is our most likely starting LT next year.
Been saying for a while that I think we only have 1 new starter next year and that's at RG.
I wouldn't pay much heed to it. They've spent a lot of assets on the oline and admitting it's bad would be a way of saying they failed.
(02-25-2020, 02:14 PM)JagJohn Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-25-2020, 02:00 PM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: [ -> ]Wow lol

Yeah that one kind of stood out.

I wanna listen to it again to understand the exact context, but it could be a sign they won't be looking at OL early in the draft.

I still think Can Robinson is our most likely starting LT next year.

"Can Robinson". The most apropos typo of the offseason.
Unless Caldwell is smokescreening his interest in tackle prospects, this F.O. must really believe the knee recovery held Cam back significantly in 2019. I hope they are right if that's actually the case, because I don't have much optimism in him improving drastically.

Marrone vid:

https://www.jaguars.com/video/marrone-it...sed-league

Caldwell:

https://www.jaguars.com/video/caldwell-t...now-league
(02-25-2020, 03:02 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]Unless Caldwell is smokescreening his interest in tackle prospects, this F.O. must really believe the knee recovery held Cam back significantly in 2019.  I hope they are right if that's actually the case, because I don't have much optimism in him improving drastically.

Marrone vid:

https://www.jaguars.com/video/marrone-it...sed-league

Caldwell:

https://www.jaguars.com/video/caldwell-t...now-league

Smokescreen. If Andrew Thomas fell to them at 9 they would be all over it. The only way I could MAYBE make a case for passing up on him is if Okudah is there or Brown is there.
(02-25-2020, 03:09 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-25-2020, 03:02 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]Unless Caldwell is smokescreening his interest in tackle prospects, this F.O. must really believe the knee recovery held Cam back significantly in 2019.  I hope they are right if that's actually the case, because I don't have much optimism in him improving drastically.

Marrone vid:

https://www.jaguars.com/video/marrone-it...sed-league

Caldwell:

https://www.jaguars.com/video/caldwell-t...now-league

Smokescreen. If Andrew Thomas fell to them at 9 they would be all over it. The only way I could MAYBE make a case for passing up on him is if Okudah is there or Brown is there.

Thomas could well be a good option for us at 9, but I think you're exagerrating his draft stock. Most mocks don't have him going in the top 9 at all.
(02-25-2020, 03:42 PM)JagJohn Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-25-2020, 03:09 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]Smokescreen. If Andrew Thomas fell to them at 9 they would be all over it. The only way I could MAYBE make a case for passing up on him is if Okudah is there or Brown is there.

Thomas could well be a good option for us at 9, but I think you're exagerrating his draft stock. Most mocks don't have him going in the top 9 at all.

I have seen him go anywhere between 4th - 8th. He's a good tackle. He's been compared to Ronnie Stanley. Good company. 

Bucky Brooks on NFL.com has him going 8th to Arizona
Drafttek has him going 8th to Arizona
Walterfootball has him going at 8th to Arizona
NFLDraftCountDown has him going 4th to New York

PFF thinks highly of him grade wise. 

https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2020-nfl-...as-georgia

I don't think anyone's wrong about his stock at the moment. Plenty of needy teams in front of us that might take him.
http://www.gradingtheexperts.com/byYear.php?year=2020

He's taken in the top 9 in 6 out of the 19 mocks there.

Like I say, good player who may well be in play for us at 9, but far from a guarantee that they would pull the trigger.
(02-25-2020, 04:30 PM)JagJohn Wrote: [ -> ]http://www.gradingtheexperts.com/byYear.php?year=2020

He's taken in the top 9 in 6 out of the 19 mocks there.

Like I say, good player who may well be in play for us at 9, but far from a guarantee that they would pull the trigger.

We'll see. It's a crap shoot. Early projections say it's a possibility. This is coming from your biggest mock sources. That's all I am saying.
(02-25-2020, 02:00 PM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-25-2020, 01:15 PM)JagJohn Wrote: [ -> ]Key points:

- nothing new on Yann
- Bouye's contract not unreasonable, team will explore options though
- nothing new on Campbell
- they are interested in bringing Dareus back
- Dave thinks Oliver and Q. Williams are candidates to make a Chark-esque leap in their 2nd years
- Jack could well be moving to Will
- Dave said the O-line is one of our strengths, also talked about off script QBs in regards to that
- Doug said Minshew, Foles and Dobbs will all be competing to start
- Both Doug and Dave talked positively about Fournette, Dave said a decision on the 5th year will come after the draft

Wow lol

Translated:  Our team  now sucks so bad that our weak positions are now our strengths.
(02-25-2020, 03:02 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]Unless Caldwell is smokescreening his interest in tackle prospects, this F.O. must really believe the knee recovery held Cam back significantly in 2019.  I hope they are right if that's actually the case, because I don't have much optimism in him improving drastically.

Marrone vid:

https://www.jaguars.com/video/marrone-it...sed-league

Caldwell:

https://www.jaguars.com/video/caldwell-t...now-league

I don't think there's any doubt the knee held him back some... What I couldn't understand is how they went into last season without any other real options at left tackle when Robinson wasn't really playing well enough before the injury.  Was he supposed to magically play better than he ever had coming off a major knee injury?

I can see them counting on him making a leap in performance with that experience and a fully healthy off season to prepare for next year.  It's also lying season, so smokescreen could very well be in play too.  Either way, I'm all for drafting the best big men they can get with the first two picks if the right guys fall to them... Planet Theory.
I googled Mekhi Becton .... sure hope he's the guy on the left.   #4 depresses me just looking at this pic.

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