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(04-23-2020, 10:19 AM)BlueEyedJag Wrote: [ -> ]Ngakoue contract demands are what's holding up the deal...he still thinks he is worth top DE money.

Yep...that's what I was about to post.

If he really wants out, and the team gets no other offers, then he will have to come down off his price.
(04-23-2020, 10:19 AM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ]As of 10:07 AM, this from PFT...

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20...s-weekend/

Quote: Per a source with knowledge of the situation, the biggest impediment to doing a deal isn’t the Jaguars’ trade demands but the player’s contractual demands. The Raiders simply don’t have the cash to pay Ngakoue what he wants, with guaranteed money in 2021 and 2022 being a major part of the problem.

And this:

https://twitter.com/mikegarafolo/status/...85697?s=21

(04-23-2020, 10:20 AM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-23-2020, 10:19 AM)BlueEyedJag Wrote: [ -> ]Ngakoue contract demands are what's holding up the deal...he still thinks he is worth top DE money.

Yep...that's what I was about to post.

If he really wants out, and the team gets no other offers, then he will have to come down off his price.

Ego. 

It’s been the demise for some of the greatest men in history.
Wonder if Yanny Gogolac can fire his agent and find a new one to negotiate today before its too late.
(04-23-2020, 10:19 AM)BlueEyedJag Wrote: [ -> ]Ngakoue contract demands are what's holding up the deal...he still thinks he is worth top DE money.

Of course  Rolleyes

I hope you enjoy the season on your couch Yawn.
That idiot is gonna screw us out of a first round pick and he's gonna screw himself out of a big contract.
Yes, take the 19!! Now big head yan needs agree to a frighin contract. Get er done.
https://www.bigcatcountry.com/2020/4/23/...koue-trade

"Per a source with knowledge of the situation, the biggest impediment to doing a deal isn’t the Jaguars’ trade demands but the player’s contractual demands. The Raiders simply don’t have the cash to pay Ngakoue what he wants, with guaranteed money in 2021 and 2022 being a major part of the problem."
(04-23-2020, 11:11 AM)nhiverson Wrote: [ -> ]https://www.bigcatcountry.com/2020/4/23/...koue-trade

"Per a source with knowledge of the situation, the biggest impediment to doing a deal isn’t the Jaguars’ trade demands but the player’s contractual demands. The Raiders simply don’t have the cash to pay Ngakoue what he wants, with guaranteed money in 2021 and 2022 being a major part of the problem."

Hmmm...sounds like he's trying to make up for all that money he left on the table LAST YEAR.
Sounds like this was dead in the water before it was ever really even close to being a thing.
Why would Oakland even entertain the idea if they don't have the cap space to make it work?
(04-23-2020, 11:11 AM)nhiverson Wrote: [ -> ]https://www.bigcatcountry.com/2020/4/23/...koue-trade

"Per a source with knowledge of the situation, the biggest impediment to doing a deal isn’t the Jaguars’ trade demands but the player’s contractual demands. The Raiders simply don’t have the cash to pay Ngakoue what he wants, with guaranteed money in 2021 and 2022 being a major part of the problem."

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(04-23-2020, 11:11 AM)nhiverson Wrote: [ -> ]https://www.bigcatcountry.com/2020/4/23/...koue-trade

"Per a source with knowledge of the situation, the biggest impediment to doing a deal isn’t the Jaguars’ trade demands but the player’s contractual demands. The Raiders simply don’t have the cash to pay Ngakoue what he wants, with guaranteed money in 2021 and 2022 being a major part of the problem."

But, "It's not about the money Duval"

https://twitter.com/YannickNgakoue/statu...5281801219
Yan doing Yan things.
(04-23-2020, 12:22 PM)Jagwired Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-23-2020, 11:11 AM)nhiverson Wrote: [ -> ]https://www.bigcatcountry.com/2020/4/23/...koue-trade

"Per a source with knowledge of the situation, the biggest impediment to doing a deal isn’t the Jaguars’ trade demands but the player’s contractual demands. The Raiders simply don’t have the cash to pay Ngakoue what he wants, with guaranteed money in 2021 and 2022 being a major part of the problem."

But, "It's not about the money Duval"

https://twitter.com/YannickNgakoue/statu...5281801219

It’s always about the money. 

The only thing piss poor is his business acumen.
https://www.raidersbeat.com/nothing-immi...ay-2-pick/

(04-23-2020, 12:56 PM)JaG4LyFe Wrote: [ -> ]https://www.raidersbeat.com/nothing-immi...ay-2-pick/

So would you trade yan and our third round pick for 19? I think that's where we're at right now.
(04-23-2020, 12:56 PM)JaG4LyFe Wrote: [ -> ]https://www.raidersbeat.com/nothing-immi...ay-2-pick/

(04-23-2020, 12:56 PM)JaG4LyFe Wrote: [ -> ]https://www.raidersbeat.com/nothing-immi...ay-2-pick/

So would you trade yan and our third round pick for 19? I think that's where we're at right now.

So get rid of a massive headache and a 3rd rounder for an additional 1st. Hmmm.
(04-23-2020, 12:56 PM)JaG4LyFe Wrote: [ -> ]https://www.raidersbeat.com/nothing-immi...ay-2-pick/

(04-23-2020, 12:56 PM)JaG4LyFe Wrote: [ -> ]https://www.raidersbeat.com/nothing-immi...ay-2-pick/

So would you trade yan and our third round pick for 19? I think that's where we're at right now.

According to a draft pick value chart, the 19th pick minus the 73rd pick is about equal to the 28th pick.  So we would be getting the equivalent of the 28th pick.

Would I take that?  I wonder what we could get in a 2021 pick if we wait until after the draft.  If the Raiders don't have the cash, maybe some other team does.  And maybe they will look at their post-draft roster and realize they need a guy like YN more than they realized before the draft.
(04-23-2020, 01:24 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-23-2020, 12:56 PM)JaG4LyFe Wrote: [ -> ]https://www.raidersbeat.com/nothing-immi...ay-2-pick/


So would you trade yan and our third round pick for 19? I think that's where we're at right now.

According to a draft pick value chart, the 19th pick minus the 73rd pick is about equal to the 28th pick.  So we would be getting the equivalent of the 28th pick.

Would I take that?  I wonder what we could get in a 2021 pick if we wait until after the draft.  If the Raiders don't have the cash, maybe some other team does.  And maybe they will look at their post-draft roster and realize they need a guy like YN more than they realized before the draft.

At this point I think that is the maximum compensation for Yan if we want draft capital for 2020. Seattle is trading back the 27th pick as they'd be an ideal candidate for Yan, so they're out of consideration.  Oakland is picking BAP at 12 and are willing to move the 19th pick to get back into the second round, that's where the third rounder comes in. The reality is,  the Jags have all the cards and it is looking more than likely that waiting for 2021 compensation will be more fruitful
Looks like things between Oakland and Jags heating up.
(04-23-2020, 02:08 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]Looks like things between Oakland and Jags heating up.

Link?