(04-16-2020, 01:14 PM)MoJagFan Wrote: [ -> ]I don't think it matters how they line up.... Derrick Henry is still running. Even the offseason hasn't stopped him
Gotta admit, the first thing I thought of when clicking on the thread was stopping Henry.
If our personnel fits better as 3-4, I'm all for it.
people overthink the 4-3 vs 3-4 thing way too much on here. still base of 2 edge and 2 interior + on nickel will still be 2 edge and 2 interior , just more looks and packages like they did last year. Should expect the new blitzing numbers of the past season to continue also
(04-16-2020, 02:58 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]If they end up going more full tilt in the 3 - 4 scheme in 2020 it's just another head scratcher for me. Wade Phillips still is or at least was on the market and that's his bread and butter. Marrone keeping Wash just doesn't make any sense to me.
Wash has video of Doug Marrone trying to open a jar of pickles. That's all I can figure.
(04-16-2020, 04:39 PM)TJBender Wrote: [ -> ] (04-16-2020, 02:58 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]If they end up going more full tilt in the 3 - 4 scheme in 2020 it's just another head scratcher for me. Wade Phillips still is or at least was on the market and that's his bread and butter. Marrone keeping Wash just doesn't make any sense to me.
Wash has video of Doug Marrone trying to open a jar of pickles. That's all I can figure.
With Bologna hands
Everyone has done more 3-4 looks and variations recently.
It's not much more than making a key sub and putting a hybrid player on the field, allowing you to switch fronts. That extra player can be a pass rusher, cover man, or extra safety (or someone who could do all that) depending on the personnel.
It's nice flexibility to have, especially against no huddle teams where the need for substitution could be a liability. You just better be able to prevent teams from smashing you in the mouth with the run.
(04-16-2020, 02:58 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]If they end up going more full tilt in the 3 - 4 scheme in 2020 it's just another head scratcher for me. Wade Phillips still is or at least was on the market and that's his bread and butter. Marrone keeping Wash just doesn't make any sense to me.
They are likely close friends now, all those expensive dinners on the road at the finest steakhouses and baloneyshacks.
3-4 look is going to work great ...... oh yeah you didn't fire the idiot leading the defense. Good luck running a 3-4 when you can't even run the base package correctly. Do the Jags honestly think he can teach a 3-4 without ever running a 3-4 and not being able to even teach his base scheme to get the players to run it correctly?
Even 2017 they couldn't run it correctly and had mistakes. They were just better and able to usually overcome the mistakes.
(04-24-2020, 12:37 PM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ]3-4 look is going to work great ...... oh yeah you didn't fire the idiot leading the defense. Good luck running a 3-4 when you can't even run the base package correctly. Do the Jags honestly think he can teach a 3-4 without ever running a 3-4 and not being able to even teach his base scheme to get the players to run it correctly?
Even 2017 they couldn't run it correctly and had mistakes. They were just better and able to usually overcome the mistakes.
Exactly!!!
(04-24-2020, 12:37 PM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ]3-4 look is going to work great ...... oh yeah you didn't fire the idiot leading the defense. Good luck running a 3-4 when you can't even run the base package correctly. Do the Jags honestly think he can teach a 3-4 without ever running a 3-4 and not being able to even teach his base scheme to get the players to run it correctly?
Even 2017 they couldn't run it correctly and had mistakes. They were just better and able to usually overcome the mistakes.
its not as complex as you think it is
(04-24-2020, 01:52 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ] (04-24-2020, 12:37 PM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ]3-4 look is going to work great ...... oh yeah you didn't fire the idiot leading the defense. Good luck running a 3-4 when you can't even run the base package correctly. Do the Jags honestly think he can teach a 3-4 without ever running a 3-4 and not being able to even teach his base scheme to get the players to run it correctly?
Even 2017 they couldn't run it correctly and had mistakes. They were just better and able to usually overcome the mistakes.
its not as complex as you think it is
It is very complex when you aren't successful at even teaching your strength.
(04-24-2020, 01:56 PM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ] (04-24-2020, 01:52 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ]its not as complex as you think it is
It is very complex when you aren't successful at even teaching your strength.
wash being a bad coach doesn't actually make showing a 3-4 look complex , the differences between it and a 4-3 look are wildly overstated, for example we had 3-4 looks last year that worked very well. Now if you want to say Wash sucks no matter what defense we run, i would agree! but that in itself doesn't make it hard to do, plenty of not good DCs can and have used 3-4 looks successfully
Truth be told the coaching staff is probably not going to be here next year if we suck. So like many have wondered maybe Gruden becomes the HC and we get a 3-4 DC.
(04-24-2020, 02:01 PM)BlueEyedJag Wrote: [ -> ]Truth be told the coaching staff is probably not going to be here next year if we suck. So like many have wondered maybe Gruden becomes the HC and we get a 3-4 DC.
Should be interesting. Theoretically gets our best players on the field the most
I guess they will have 1 more player in the zone coverage, this is going to be laughable bad.
(04-24-2020, 11:23 PM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ]I guess they will have 1 more player in the zone coverage, this is going to be laughable bad.
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IF Yan decides to play this could be a tremendous LB group.