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I love this guy and the Boldin comp makes me excited.

Boldin seems like a very odd comp to me outside of them both being angry with the ball in their hands. Boldin moved like he was playing in quicksand.

(04-29-2020, 03:12 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]Boldin seems like a very odd comp to me outside of them both being angry with the ball in their hands. Boldin moved like he was playing in quicksand.

That's because Boldin ran a 4.71 40. I think the guys on the actual NFL Website had the best comparison for him. Sammy Watkins / Greg Little sounds about right. They're all about the same size. At least it doesn't feel like we over drafted him though. I think the value is good there in RD2. 

Especially when you consider that he's not being asked to probably be our number one receiver. That honor should go to Chark. But I think Shenault will be the perfect compliment to him in Gruden's offense. He'll aim to use Chark like he did Green (go deep and get it or act as a decoy to clear the underneath out) and then use Shenault like he did Marvin Jones & Mohamed Sanu (hard work in the short to medium game with RAC involved).

(04-29-2020, 03:29 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-29-2020, 03:12 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]Boldin seems like a very odd comp to me outside of them both being angry with the ball in their hands. Boldin moved like he was playing in quicksand.

That's because Boldin ran a 4.71 40. I think the guys on the actual NFL Website had the best comparison for him. Sammy Watkins / Greg Little sounds about right. They're all about the same size. At least it doesn't feel like we over drafted him though. I think the value is good there in RD2. 

Especially when you consider that he's not being asked to probably be our number one receiver. That honor should go to Chark. But I think Shenault will be the perfect compliment to him in Gruden's offense. He'll aim to use Chark like he did Green (go deep and get it or act as a decoy to clear the underneath out) and then use Shenault like he did Marvin Jones & Mohamed Sanu (hard work in the short to medium game with RAC involved).

They aren't all about the same size. Shenault has 22 lbs on Watkins 7 lbs on Little.


Shenault is more comparable in size to Fred Taylor and Leonard Fournette.

Reminded me of watching Derek Henry with the ball running.

(04-30-2020, 04:44 AM)JW Wrote: [ -> ]Reminded me of watching Derek Henry with the ball running.

Yea, since he has had 44 broken tackles since 2018 (most in CFB).

Planet Reggie v2.0 !!! Wonder if his helmet will keep popping off when he gets hit.

(04-29-2020, 03:29 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-29-2020, 03:12 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]Boldin seems like a very odd comp to me outside of them both being angry with the ball in their hands. Boldin moved like he was playing in quicksand.

That's because Boldin ran a 4.71 40. I think the guys on the actual NFL Website had the best comparison for him. Sammy Watkins / Greg Little sounds about right. They're all about the same size. At least it doesn't feel like we over drafted him though. I think the value is good there in RD2. 

Especially when you consider that he's not being asked to probably be our number one receiver. That honor should go to Chark. But I think Shenault will be the perfect compliment to him in Gruden's offense. He'll aim to use Chark like he did Green (go deep and get it or act as a decoy to clear the underneath out) and then use Shenault like he did Marvin Jones & Mohamed Sanu (hard work in the short to medium game with RAC involved).

Oh God, I hope not.  Sammy Watkins might be the most overrated, overpaid receiver ever.  He's like the Sam Bradford of receivers.

(04-29-2020, 04:57 PM)Predator Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-29-2020, 03:29 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]That's because Boldin ran a 4.71 40. I think the guys on the actual NFL Website had the best comparison for him. Sammy Watkins / Greg Little sounds about right. They're all about the same size. At least it doesn't feel like we over drafted him though. I think the value is good there in RD2. 

Especially when you consider that he's not being asked to probably be our number one receiver. That honor should go to Chark. But I think Shenault will be the perfect compliment to him in Gruden's offense. He'll aim to use Chark like he did Green (go deep and get it or act as a decoy to clear the underneath out) and then use Shenault like he did Marvin Jones & Mohamed Sanu (hard work in the short to medium game with RAC involved).

They aren't all about the same size. Shenault has 22 lbs on Watkins 7 lbs on Little.


Shenault is more comparable in size to Fred Taylor and Leonard Fournette.

His comparison was based on play style coming out of college. All three of those guys (Boldin, Little & Watkins) were YAC and high effort after the catch type of receivers. He could be built like Lance Alworth or Calvin Johnson Jr. for all I care. Just as long as he plays well. Don't care if it's a fly route for 50+ or a 5 yard hitch with a 50+ YAC. Just get it done.

(04-30-2020, 09:26 AM)scottyg Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-29-2020, 03:29 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]That's because Boldin ran a 4.71 40. I think the guys on the actual NFL Website had the best comparison for him. Sammy Watkins / Greg Little sounds about right. They're all about the same size. At least it doesn't feel like we over drafted him though. I think the value is good there in RD2. 

Especially when you consider that he's not being asked to probably be our number one receiver. That honor should go to Chark. But I think Shenault will be the perfect compliment to him in Gruden's offense. He'll aim to use Chark like he did Green (go deep and get it or act as a decoy to clear the underneath out) and then use Shenault like he did Marvin Jones & Mohamed Sanu (hard work in the short to medium game with RAC involved).

Oh God, I hope not.  Sammy Watkins might be the most overrated, overpaid receiver ever.  He's like the Sam Bradford of receivers.

Watkins was over drafted but he was also plagued with a number of injuries and stuck on a team like Buffalo that still hasn't really figured out it's QB situation. Even with Josh Allen it seems like they're trying to get it situated. He's been able to flash more with the Chiefs now despite injuries there. 

However, not to piss in anyone's corn flakes around here about this kid. Because I like him as well. And I DO trust Caldwell when it comes to WR talent. Especially in RD2. BUT. . . there's this interesting note from Drafttek about him below and how the NFL felt about him leading up to the draft. 

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After passing on their pick of the litter at wide receiver in the first round, the Jags end up with a guy whose ceiling is as high as almost any receiver in the draft. On the downside, according to Bob McGinn of The Athletic, Shenault was listed as the wide receiver with the highest bust potential of the top 10 at the position, in his poll of NFL front offices. Shenault's a physical receiver and a beast with the ball in his hands, so it wouldn't be surprising if he turned into a fan favorite down the road with some highlight-reel plays.

Grade: B+



So essentially out of the top 10 overall receivers, according to that note above. He was the highest rated WR with the most potential to turn out a bust. I don't think he'll end up like that. Again, I think with Chark being the top dog here for now that it indicates Shenault will play more of that possession, physical role underneath to compliment Chark's deep ball ability. And that should weigh in our favor. I expect a better version of Mohamed Sanu out of this kid in Gruden's offense. A much BETTER version of Mohamed Sanu. 

Can he run routes seems he is so so? He looks good with the ball in his hands though.

(04-30-2020, 11:34 AM)nhiverson Wrote: [ -> ]Can he run routes seems he is so so? He looks good with the ball in his hands though.

They didn't really require a huge route tree out of him at Colorado. But that was one of the few knocks on him. He'll be fine. I think McCardell will work wonders with him. And he'll be able to latch onto Chark, Conley and Westbrook at some point this summer to get a feel for the game. 

The best part is that all of these guys will be learning a new system together. So it should make for an interesting training camp. He'll be a hard worker in the short to mid passing game though with his size and YAC ability. If he's able to beat his coverage off the LOS and run a simple drag route, slant route or curl route that leads to 10+ yard gains that's fine by me. 

That was one of the things I liked about Justin Blackmon in the few games he played for us. He had damn good hands and lord help you if you didn't close the distance on him because if he had just a tiny amount of space to work with he would make you pay for it. I think Shenault has some of that ability in his game. 

He might come along slowly and be a bit of a late bloomer after week seven, week eight. But when he shows up it'll get interesting overall.

(04-28-2020, 12:24 AM)Senor Fantastico Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-27-2020, 04:47 PM)D6 Wrote: [ -> ] Definitely one of my favorite NFL WRs.  Even in season # 14 for Anquan Boldin, he was a difference maker in the Lions making the playoffs in his one season with the team. It was a privilege watching Boldin play each game that season.  It sure felt better than watching him in an opposing uniform in his NFL record setting debut performance as a rookie in a game that was a shootout.  

https://www.footballperspective.com/nine...ed-week-1/

It wouldn't surprise me if Laviska Shenault is a great football character version of Justin Blackmon.

Haha good memory D6, Boldin must've made an impression on you that day. I'd be ecstatic if Shenault had Boldin's career for sure.

Last night,  I watched a video in which Chris Spielman was providing his analysis on the Lions 2020 draft selections.

At around the 12:35 mark,  when discussing Wisconsin WR Quintez Cephus, who the Lions drafted in Round 5 ( pick # 166 ), Spielman mentioned Anquan Bolden as a comparison / type of player Cephus is.  The thought came to mind for me earlier yesterday, especially after our discussion here the other day about Laviska Shenault. 


https://www.detroitlions.com/video/2020-...s-spielman

With all due respect to Quintez Cephus, who I believe the Lions got good to very good value based on when he was selected,  Laviska Shenault has more upside potential.  Cephus' ceiling is probably a # 2 WR. Shenault appears to have # 1 WR potential.  

(04-28-2020, 12:37 AM)Dimson Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-27-2020, 04:47 PM)D6 Wrote: [ -> ] Definitely one of my favorite NFL WRs.  Even in season # 14 for Anquan Boldin, he was a difference maker in the Lions making the playoffs in his one season with the team. It was a privilege watching Boldin play each game that season.  It sure felt better than watching him in an opposing uniform in his NFL record setting debut performance as a rookie in a game that was a shootout.  

https://www.footballperspective.com/nine...ed-week-1/

It wouldn't surprise me if Laviska Shenault is a great football character version of Justin Blackmon.

If he can be a sober Blackmon, then we have the steal of the draft.

Agreed.  

Justin Blackmon was a differential player.  The Jaguars finally have the opportunity to truly turn that page, as a result of the Laviska Shenualt selection.  If Shenualt is able to stay relatively healthy much more often than not, the Jaguars should have a foundation piece in place as a result.

When I heard the selection, I thought the dude was like Russian or Turkish.

(04-30-2020, 03:06 PM)Jagulars Wrote: [ -> ]When I heard the selection, I thought the dude was like Russian or Turkish.

Shenault is French.

(04-29-2020, 03:12 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]Boldin seems like a very odd comp to me outside of them both being angry with the ball in their hands. Boldin moved like he was playing in quicksand.

It does seem an odd comparison, though I would LOVE for Shenault to have the career Boldin had.

Lindy's compared Shenault to JuJu Smith-Schuster/

Not sure I get that one.

Ah. French.

Looking forward to seeing how this offense fires out in the first half of the season.

I'm hoping he's like Deebo Samuel.   Although he is bigger than Samuel.  But I saw Deebo Samuel in the playoffs last year, and I thought to myself, I wish we had one of those.