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For articles, links and commentary on the Obama Administration's attempts to undermine the 2016 election before and after November 2016.

Here's a good one to start with:

Obama, Biden Oval Office Meeting On January 5 Was Key To Entire Anti-Trump Operation
Barack Obama Sends Formal Request To National Archives To NOT Release Biden-Ukraine Docs

https://dcwhispers.com/breaking-barack-o...whatfinger
Obama is the first ex-president in the history of our country to bash his predecessor. Let that sink in for a moment.
(05-11-2020, 11:14 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]Obama is the first ex-president in the history of our country to bash his predecessor. Let that sink in for a moment.


Self Awarewolf in his natural habitat.
(05-11-2020, 11:33 AM)Gabe Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-11-2020, 11:14 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]Obama is the first ex-president in the history of our country to bash his predecessor. Let that sink in for a moment.


Self Awarewolf in his natural habitat.

You sound like Elon Musk if he had less talent and didn't have any money.
(05-11-2020, 11:37 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-11-2020, 11:33 AM)Gabe Wrote: [ -> ]Self Awarewolf in his natural habitat.

You sound like Elon Musk if he had less talent and didn't have any money.

To state what you stated without looking in the mirror is laughable. 

#spidermanpointsatspiderman
Obama last week:

“The news over the last 24 hours I think has been somewhat downplayed — about the Justice Department dropping charges against Michael Flynn,” Obama said. “And the fact that there is no precedent that anybody can find for someone who has been charged with perjury just getting off scot-free".

Jan 17, 2017:

Obama Pardons James Cartwright, General Who Lied to F.B.I. in Leak Case

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/17/us/po...-case.html
(05-11-2020, 11:14 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]Obama is the first ex-president in the history of our country to bash his predecessor. Let that sink in for a moment.
Hahahah and you think Trump won’t?! Good grief.
The house of cards is getting unsteady for sure.
Another Deep Stater caught lying. He was smart enough not to continue the lie while under oath, but more than willing to alter the official transcript of Trump's famous perfect call.

Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman admitted he made up elements of President Donald Trump’s call with Ukranian President Volodymyr Zelensky in an official summary.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/...l-summary/
(05-11-2020, 11:14 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]Obama is the first ex-president in the history of our country to bash his predecessor. Let that sink in for a moment.

This is still making me laugh. Has the irony sunk in for you yet, SC? 

Sincerely,

~Poor man's Elon Musk
(05-11-2020, 01:28 PM)Byron LeftTown Wrote: [ -> ]Another Deep Stater caught lying.  He was smart enough not to continue the lie while under oath, but more than willing to alter the official transcript of Trump's famous perfect call.

Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman admitted he made up elements of President Donald Trump’s call with Ukranian President Volodymyr Zelensky in an official summary.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/...l-summary/

Bro, you cannot quote Breitbart if you want anyone to take you seriously.  Find more sources to corroborate if it's true, please.
The Deep State getting worried, finally, someone with the testicular fortitude to take them on and bring them down
Re: Deep State - can we get a comprehensive rundown? I'd just like to see who's on board.
(05-11-2020, 03:18 PM)JaguarKick Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-11-2020, 01:28 PM)Byron LeftTown Wrote: [ -> ]Another Deep Stater caught lying.  He was smart enough not to continue the lie while under oath, but more than willing to alter the official transcript of Trump's famous perfect call.

Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman admitted he made up elements of President Donald Trump’s call with Ukranian President Volodymyr Zelensky in an official summary.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/...l-summary/

Bro, you cannot quote Breitbart if you want anyone to take you seriously.  Find more sources to corroborate if it's true, please.

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/protecting-obama/
(05-11-2020, 12:50 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-11-2020, 11:14 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]Obama is the first ex-president in the history of our country to bash his predecessor. Let that sink in for a moment.
Hahahah and you think Trump won’t?! Good grief.

The fact stands that even all the huge pieces of crap that have gone before... only Obama opened his mouth.
(05-11-2020, 12:50 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-11-2020, 11:14 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]Obama is the first ex-president in the history of our country to bash his predecessor. Let that sink in for a moment.
Hahahah and you think Trump won’t?! Good grief.

Do I think Trump will bash Dan Crenshaw or Matt Gaetz? No, I dont.
(05-11-2020, 07:58 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-11-2020, 12:50 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]Hahahah and you think Trump won’t?! Good grief.

Do I think Trump will bash Dan Crenshaw or Matt Gaetz? No, I dont.

You mean successor, not predecessor.


Of course all of the Democrats and many of the establishment Republicans have been bashing Trump. None of the swamp creatures want their swamp cleaned.
(05-11-2020, 12:47 PM)Byron LeftTown Wrote: [ -> ]Obama last week:

“The news over the last 24 hours I think has been somewhat downplayed — about the Justice Department dropping charges against Michael Flynn,” Obama said. “And the fact that there is no precedent that anybody can find for someone who has been charged with perjury just getting off scot-free".

Jan 17, 2017:

Obama Pardons James Cartwright, General Who Lied to F.B.I. in Leak Case

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/17/us/po...-case.html

I guess Obama is misspeaking in the quote.
Yes, you could say that both general Flynn and general Cartwright got off Scott free.
But how they got away with it is very different. Presidents have been pardoning people since the beginning of this country. Sometimes they pardon people for personal or political reasons. It's always been that way.
Sometimes people are wrongfully convicted of stuff. Sometimes pardons fix that. Sometimes the governor or the President says, "he was wrongfully convicted, so I'm fixing that." But usually it's the previous set of prosecutors who made the mistake.  For the President to pardon Flynn, when his own prosecutors convicted him, would be unprecedented.  For the President to step in and say, "actually, don't prosecute that guy anymore... is beyond unprecedented.
(05-11-2020, 10:44 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-11-2020, 12:47 PM)Byron LeftTown Wrote: [ -> ]Obama last week:

“The news over the last 24 hours I think has been somewhat downplayed — about the Justice Department dropping charges against Michael Flynn,” Obama said. “And the fact that there is no precedent that anybody can find for someone who has been charged with perjury just getting off scot-free".

Jan 17, 2017:

Obama Pardons James Cartwright, General Who Lied to F.B.I. in Leak Case

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/17/us/po...-case.html

I guess Obama is misspeaking in the quote.
Yes, you could say that both general Flynn and general Cartwright got off Scott free.
But how they got away with it is very different. Presidents have been pardoning people since the beginning of this country. Sometimes they pardon people for personal or political reasons. It's always been that way.
Sometimes people are wrongfully convicted of stuff. Sometimes pardons fix that. Sometimes the governor or the President says, "he was wrongfully convicted, so I'm fixing that." But usually it's the previous set of prosecutors who made the mistake.  For the President to pardon Flynn, when his own prosecutors convicted him, would be unprecedented.  For the President to step in and say, "actually, don't prosecute that guy anymore... is beyond unprecedented.

Tell me you don't know that they were career prosecutors? A president doesn't just come in and replace every single bureaucrat. Calling them "his own prosecutors" is a flat out lie. But then you've been know to do that lots of times on this board.

Setting the perjury trap on Flynn was done by the FBI under Obama's orders. This was carried out by FBI agents and Justice Department people who were there before Trump took office. Yes it's unprecedented. It's unprecedented that the previous administration would use the FBI to propagate false charges in an attempt to oust the duly elected President.
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