09-30-2020, 03:13 PM
2 things: It disappears without moving back into the frame, which suggests it wasn't a wire, and is his team so stupid they would put the wire over his shirt?
(09-30-2020, 03:13 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]2 things: It disappears without moving back into the frame, which suggests it wasn't a wire, and is his team so stupid they would put the wire over his shirt?
(09-30-2020, 03:00 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]I hope you're not referring to that shirt wrinkle....
(09-30-2020, 02:47 PM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ](09-30-2020, 07:13 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]The Telemundo debate poll is concerning for Bidem.Well more than concerning. The other polls show Trump even winning coming from MSM. I don't think anyone won, but the polls show Trump crushed him.
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(09-30-2020, 02:48 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]And now video evidence is coming out today showing that Biden was indeed wired for sound on the stage. Looks like Trump was right again!
(09-30-2020, 03:00 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]I hope you're not referring to that shirt wrinkle....
(09-30-2020, 03:02 PM)JagNGeorgia Wrote: [ -> ](09-30-2020, 03:00 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]I hope you're not referring to that shirt wrinkle....
I’m not ready to say it’s a wire, but it doesn’t look to me like it’s a wrinkle in the video I saw. It pops out after he moves something under his jacket. I thought it was a wrinkle before I saw the video.
(09-30-2020, 03:13 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]2 things: It disappears without moving back into the frame, which suggests it wasn't a wire, and is his team so stupid they would put the wire over his shirt?
(09-30-2020, 03:17 PM)JagNGeorgia Wrote: [ -> ]It disappeared when he leaned to his left. It also never appears again so it’s probably not a wrinkle or wire. If it’s a loose wire, you’d think it’d pop back out, and if it’s a wrinkle that big and that close to the tie then you’d definitely see it againCheck the zoomed in video. I thought it was just a wrinkle, but the same thing is near his neck. The same size wrinkle appears elsewhere.
(09-30-2020, 02:47 PM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ](09-30-2020, 07:13 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]The Telemundo debate poll is concerning for Bidem.Well more than concerning. The other polls show Trump even winning coming from MSM. I don't think anyone won, but the polls show Trump crushed him.
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(09-30-2020, 04:41 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]Previous one mentioned, CSPAN, even CNN(09-30-2020, 02:47 PM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ]Well more than concerning. The other polls show Trump even winning coming from MSM. I don't think anyone won, but the polls show Trump crushed him.
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Where do you see a poll that shows Trump winning?
(09-30-2020, 04:58 PM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ](09-30-2020, 04:41 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]Where do you see a poll that shows Trump winning?Previous one mentioned, CSPAN, even CNN
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(09-30-2020, 05:13 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ](09-30-2020, 04:58 PM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ]Previous one mentioned, CSPAN, even CNN
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Do you have a link to a poll that says Trump won? The CNN poll said Biden won, 66% to 28%.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/29/politics/...index.html
The Telemundo poll you cited was a nonscientific Twitter poll. Not even restricted to Spanish speaking people. Anyone could vote in that poll. The CSPAN poll was also nonscientific- just invited people to call in and register their opinion. Absolutely worthless.
(09-30-2020, 04:16 PM)jj82284 Wrote: [ -> ](09-30-2020, 02:47 PM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ]Well more than concerning. The other polls show Trump even winning coming from MSM. I don't think anyone won, but the polls show Trump crushed him.
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This isnt insignificant. Trump was stronger and he was the aggressor. Some are turned off by his level of aggression, but the casual observer will come to the conclusion that Trump is a stronger personality.
(09-30-2020, 05:58 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ](09-30-2020, 04:16 PM)jj82284 Wrote: [ -> ]This isnt insignificant. Trump was stronger and he was the aggressor. Some are turned off by his level of aggression, but the casual observer will come to the conclusion that Trump is a stronger personality.
The casual observer will come to the conclusion he is a rude, self important, bully, who doesn't care if he's making a mockery of our electoral process. I know a lot of people said today that they would not watch another debate, unless the candidates microphones are turned off when their time is up. Since Trump would never agree to this in a million years, I'm expecting the next one to be the lowest rated presidential debate in history. I know of very few people who enjoy watching two elderly men yell, insult, interrupt and talk over the top of one another. Personally, I find very few things more irritating. I could never sit through an entire debate like that. The highlights (or lowlights as some called them,) were enough for me.
(09-30-2020, 09:21 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ](09-30-2020, 07:41 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]I am a supporter and agree he was too much at times. All he had to do in some cases was let Biden continue to talk and that would have helped him.
TBH, I don't think it would hurt Trump if Biden decided to avoid the next two debates for a couple reasons:
1. Wallace was the best opportunity Trump had at a fair debate
2. The optics of Biden camp declining last 2 debates is bad
3. Trump got what he wanted out of the outcome. Get Joe on record for not adopting the far left policies and re-confirm the lack of support from Hispanics.
Biden's opportunity to denounce court packing will make some people who loathe DT still vote for him. This debate did nothing to motivate people to vote, but it did motivate people to probably not vote.
I don't think Trump lost any of his supporters, but he certainly lost some independents who were on the fence.
I agree that he should've kept quiet. The longer Biden talks, the more mistakes he makes. That should've been the strategy for trump, but the man has serious self control issues and that was on full display last night from the highlights I saw.
I don't think it will reflect badly at all on Biden if he pulls out of the debates. That wasn't even a debate it was a pushy, domineering, bully with narcissistic tendencies completely trying to drown out everyone else, including the moderator. Debates with Trump are pointless. He won't let anyone else speak. He's gotten way worse since his debates with Hillary.
As far as Biden not being on board with the far left side of the party, duh! He never was. I'm not even remotely a Biden supporter and I've known that for years. Anyone who has taken any time at all to study the candidates should've been aware of that. He and Democrats like AOC couldn't be more different. She's a radical.
People will definitely still vote. They will just do it from home. Ohio is receiving a record number of absentee ballot request. According to my local news, the majority being from Independent voters, which surprised me.
(09-30-2020, 08:17 PM)MojoKing Wrote: [ -> ]Sorry late to the party. Did we already talk about how racist is racist?
(09-30-2020, 09:09 PM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ]Trump was interrupted 76 times, Biden 15. Biden also talked more than Trump did.
Yep the moderator showed how liberal he is.
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