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Quote:I don't see anything in those quotes that doesn't get tossed around in press conferences regularly from any number of coaches around the league.

 

They are both failing miserably at their jobs currently, yet still are required to address the media.  Par for the course in that scenario.  Having seen the pressers - the quotes are even more innocuous in context.
 

Yup. It's just fans grasping at straws so they can complain about something. The only thing that I question is Yeldon (but what's the context of the question?) and Flaco's mobility, which I consider coach speak. I know opposing coaches always had good things to say about Blaine Gabbert when asked about facing him, even though we all know the truth.
Quote:If he was specifically referring to TJs 2016 stat line - then yeah that was pretty dumb.  I don't see anything uncommon about the other comments.
The first one listed, attributable to Wash, is bothersome too.

 

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7. Todd Wash: “It was execution. One of it was my issues. I did not show them that play in practice and we had a zone blitz to it and we had a young man in a position he has never been in. I take responsibility
(Emphasis added)

I was mortified reading the underlined portions of this quote.  I understand that teams will scout their own tendencies and change up their approaches from time to time.  But the quote makes me question the kind of preparation the team is getting.
They have a week to prepare. They can't show everything.

 

Sometimes all they have to fall back on is the player's experience in some situations.

 

Inexperienced players can get caught off guard. Such is life.

Quote:Olson talked about that screen play to end the half today. Said the goal was to get in range for a field goal like how they did in a game vs the Colts last season. Said the problem with the play was alignment. Ugh. Really Olson? The problem is you run the damn play every 3 plays, they knew that it was coming. This guy is so stubborn, can't wait to see how many screens are thrown this week. 
I know everyone here is hating on Gus, but Olson is the absolute worst. I'd say the most offensive thing Bradley has done was to hire this idiot, second to promoting Wash. The fact that Greg shows zero remorse or even acknowledgment of the futility of this play is mind numbing to me. That play, from conception, was failure incarnate. We were down 21 zip, and we want to waste the last 9 seconds of the half preparing to possibly kick a FG with a kicker who's questionable on his best day? And we do that with another screen pass? With A-Rob and Hurns, and Lee, and Thomas, and a QB who excels outside the pocket we couldn't come up with a single version of a corner route, let alone take a strike for the end zone? Maddening.
Quote:Yup. It's just fans grasping at straws so they can complain about something. The only thing that I question is Yeldon (but what's the context of the question?) and Flaco's mobility, which I consider coach speak. I know opposing coaches always had good things to say about Blaine Gabbert when asked about facing him, even though we all know the truth.
With due respect, Speedy, I disagree.

 

For three years, I have steadfastly given Bradley, et al, the benefit of the doubt throughout this rebuild.  I have eschewed the torch and pitchfork approach to fandom throughout my tenure here.

 

Though the results have been horrific, I have specifically avoided looking for something to complain about because I knew how deficient the roster was in talent.

 

Now, this roster has talent.  You could argue the defense still has room to mature and fully grasp the scheme, but the talent is there now.

 

I could understand a competitive loss in San Diego.  For them to lay the egg they did in San Diego was inexcusable, and for me, brings the quality of coaching into legitimate question.
Quote:They have a week to prepare. They can't show everything.

 

Sometimes all they have to fall back on is the player's experience in some situations.
 

I mean, maybe the Patriots do, who knows. But for the most part, I agree that you're not going to be able to account for everything. In this case, it sounds like it was talked about in film room, but not in practice.
Quote:The first one listed, attributable to Wash, is bothersome too.

 

(Emphasis added)

I was mortified reading the underlined portions of this quote.  I understand that teams will scout their own tendencies and change up their approaches from time to time.  But the quote makes me question the kind of preparation the team is getting.
Eh. With a shifting rotation at DB - Gratz was an afterthought at nickel. I don't find it crazy that they called an uncommon zone (for this defense) and he hadn't seen it much (or at all.)  

It's certainly not ideal and smacks of unpreparedness, but I can see where that could happen with a back-up player not playing his first position. 
Quote:With due respect, Speedy, I disagree.

 

For three years, I have steadfastly given Bradley, et al, the benefit of the doubt throughout this rebuild.  I have eschewed the torch and pitchfork approach to fandom throughout my tenure here.

 

Though the results have been horrific, I have specifically avoided looking for something to complain about because I knew how deficient the roster was in talent.

 

Now, this roster has talent.  You could argue the defense still has room to mature and fully grasp the scheme, but the talent is there now.

 

I could understand a competitive loss in San Diego.  For them to lay the egg they did in San Diego was inexcusable, and for me, brings the quality of coaching into legitimate question.
 

I wasn't referring to you specifically, but to the comments in general. As I said, aside from the Yeldon piece (is he specifically talking these two games? or in general because TJ's YPC was decent last season), everything else is pretty common.

 

#7 "How can you throw your 2nd biggest free-agent acquisition under the bus" That's the article. Why not? This regime often gets wrongly blamed for "shielding" the players from criticism. We all hear the ice cream joke. And here, Wash supposedly states someone made a mistake, and he somehow gets ripped for it? This is complaining for the sake of complaining.

 

#6 If you take three run plays away.... "Shut up"

 

Look at the play by play. Seriously. I was personally surprised by it. Watching the game, it felt so doom and gloom. But then I looked at the play-by-play on espn.com. You'll see we actually contained them pretty well. And then, a big play here and big play there. I went through it in one of the posts here. The Benjamin crossing TD was on a 1st and goal at the 6th when Poz and Telvin looked like they both covered the same guy. And this happened after Odrick gave them a 1st down on a 4th and 1 for neutral zone infraction. The Tyrell Williams play was blown coverage, as has been broken down several times in this board. And then this Benjamin play which apparently is also a busted coverage. The Benjamin fly route happened after Odrick's offsides and tantrum. Take away these silly mistakes and its a much closer game.

 

#5 Chargers were up 35-0 and message was to clean up details.

 

See my #6. We clean up a lot of these stupid mistakes, the bad run fits, the busted coverages. The penalties. The throw behind Lee. The forced throw to Greene downfield. Clean up these mistakes and this is a closer game. Most fans are asking for wholesale changes in WEEK TWO, a week after we went toe-to-toe vs. the Packers. They want this guy benched. They want that guy benched. They want this scheme scrapped. Newsflash. We're already having problems with communication, alignment, and fit. Doesn't common sense tell you that wholesale changes will only make those issues worse?

 

#4 Flacco and his mobility

 

OK so Joe doesn't really scramble and he's mostly a pocket passer. I'll chalk this up to coach speak.

 

#3 Yeldon's YPC.

 

Again, are they only talking about the first two games? or his career? I don't know the context. If its only two games, then dumb comment. If career, not so much.

 

#2 Definition of insanity

 

Nothing wrong about what he said. At all. Grasping at straws

 

#1 Learn from the loss. Take us to better places.

 

One of the Jaguars "key" wins in years past was a dominant game against the Colts in which we ran the ball down their throats. It embarrassed the Colts, and they used that game as a rallying cry throughout their run to the post season and eventually Super Bowl win. Again, there is absolutely zero wrong with what Gus said here. I mean, what was he supposed to say? Oh Well. We suck. Guess you can fire me now and just tank for the #1 pick.
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I could understand a competitive loss in San Diego.  For them to lay the egg they did in San Diego was inexcusable, and for me, brings the quality of coaching into legitimate question.
 

I agree with you wholeheartedly here.   ^

 

I just find the comments in question not so condemning and rather mundane. 
Quote:The first one listed, attributable to Wash, is bothersome too.


(Emphasis added)

I was mortified reading the underlined portions of this quote. I understand that teams will scout their own tendencies and change up their approaches from time to time. But the quote makes me question the kind of preparation the team is getting.


That quote goes back to context. He mentioned he didn't show that play to the team because the Chargers have ran the play once in 8 games.
Quote:I agree with you wholeheartedly here.   ^

 

I just find the comments in question not so condemning and rather mundane. 
 

I agree here as well. Listen, everyone is frustrated with how the team played vs. San Diego. But throwing random things and hope it sticks isn't how we fix this problem. Nor is complaining for the sake of complaining.
Quote:I know everyone here is hating on Gus, but Olson is the absolute worst. I'd say the most offensive thing Bradley has done was to hire this idiot, second to promoting Wash. The fact that Greg shows zero remorse or even acknowledgment of the futility of this play is mind numbing to me. That play, from conception, was failure incarnate. We were down 21 zip, and we want to waste the last 9 seconds of the half preparing to possibly kick a FG with a kicker who's questionable on his best day? And we do that with another screen pass? With A-Rob and Hurns, and Lee, and Thomas, and a QB who excels outside the pocket we couldn't come up with a single version of a corner route, let alone take a strike for the end zone? Maddening.
Oh, it is crazy. Olson hates blame. "It was alignment." Nevermind that even if he gets the 10 yards you need, he still has to get out of bounds because we had no timeouts which is no guarantee. This tells me he is going to keep running this play into the ground, regardless if it EVER works again.  
Quote:I prefer the Marshawn Lynch approach.

 

"I'm just here so I don't get fined."
 

"[They] need to work on [they] people skills"
You can't prepare them for everything.  I don't think anyone has said they can or should have.

 

There was no excuse for the Poz play covering Benjamin.  No excuse for the play where Williams got loose for the TD wide open.  No excuse for Cyp and Gratz (I think it was him) to play patty cake and try to shoulder tackle him downfield.  There was no excuse for this team to look lost and confused each time the Chargers used a bunch formation.

 

Pathetic.

 

Either we have players that aren't smart enough to know what they're doing or they're being coached poorly and put into positions where they aren't going to succeed.

 

I refuse to playing we have that many unintelligent players.  The problem runs deeper than that because it's been a problem for FOUR YEARS!

Quote:That quote goes back to context. He mentioned he didn't show that play to the team because the Chargers have ran the play once in 8 games.


Fine.


I acknowledge that teams self scout and game plan sometimes against their own tendencies. I want to know what made them pull out that play now? Why call that play when they did?


Did Bradley et al sufficiently self scout?


I ask because there was an SI article quoting a Texans coach indicating the Jaguars never blitz in short yardage situations. If the quote is accurate and the quote offered was honest, and that coaching staff was capable of identifying that tendency, who else was able to exploit our tendencies?


It sure seems like the Bolts' coaches exploited one on that play.
You could have just left the "quotes" part out of the title.

Babich's tendencies last year are irrelevant to what Wash is calling.

Quote:Babich's tendencies last year are irrelevant to what Wash is calling.
 

No it is very relevant.  You think they coach in a vacuum?  Gus Bradley's finger prints are all over it.  When you just play with statistics the QB play improved last year but the game to game play declined.  So getting more experience and better offensive play produced better results because all the starting QBs disintegrated on our schedule.
More proof that problem starts at the top
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