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(12-20-2020, 08:21 PM)SamusAranX Wrote: [ -> ]Per PFT we own the first pick if we lose out

FOX said the same thing at half

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And the Jets improved the position of the  Jags second 1st round pick  ?

(12-20-2020, 08:25 PM)prime winner Wrote: [ -> ]And the Jets improved the position of the  Jags second 1st round pick  ?

Yes, because the Rams lost - which is the pick we obtained from the Jalen Ramsey trade.

Double whammy baby.

It's a Christmas miracle!

(12-20-2020, 08:32 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]It's a Christmas miracle!

So now you want Lawrence after saying you would take Wilson over him over in the college forums?

Lol. Whatever, just glad you came to your senses man!

(12-20-2020, 08:35 PM)enigma Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-20-2020, 08:32 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]It's a Christmas miracle!

So now you want Lawrence after saying you would take Wilson over him over in the college forums?

Lol. Whatever, just glad you came to your senses man!

He never said he would take him over Lawrence. He said he would take Wilson over anyone QB if we stayed at 2.

Have no worry, friends, the Jags will inevitably find a way to [BLEEP] it up.

Think how the guy in charge of ticket sales is feeling right now.!! Job just got 100% easier.

(12-06-2020, 10:27 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]As of now, I have the QB's ranked......

1. Zach Wilson, BYU
2. Trevor Lawrence, Clemson
3. Mac Jones, Alabama
4. Kyle Trask, Florida

Personally, I would be happy with any of these guys. I think this is a pretty deep class and all of these guys have a chance to be very good NFL starters.

(12-06-2020, 05:08 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-06-2020, 02:01 PM)jaglou53 Wrote: [ -> ]I believe there is a pretty big gap between Lawrence and the other 3. The difference between him and Wilson is size and level of competition. It wouldn't shock me if Wilson ends up being a franchise quarterback. I would draft him ahead of Fields as things stand now. Fields is a great athlete, but I question whether he has the intangibles to succeed in the NFL.

The level of competition cannot be helped. As far as the size, Lawrence is definitely taller, but he's a tall QB. At 6'3" 210 lbs, Wilson is far from being a small QB. He's actually taller than Aaron Rodgers and Deshaun Watson and those guys are considered pretty prototypical on their size. He could add some weight to his frame, but that will come. I have him just the slightest of hairs ahead of Lawrence right now, but I'd be thrilled with either guy. Outside of these two, I'd probably draft 2 QB's. One with our second 1st round pick and a project with high upside somewhere in the 4th or 5th round like Sam Ehlinger of Texas or Shane Buechele of SMU.

I totally agree about Fields.

(12-20-2020, 08:38 PM)Dimson Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-20-2020, 08:35 PM)enigma Wrote: [ -> ]So now you want Lawrence after saying you would take Wilson over him over in the college forums?

Lol. Whatever, just glad you came to your senses man!

He never said he would take him over Lawrence. He said he would take Wilson over anyone QB if we stayed at 2.

Here ya go bud. I know exactly what I saw - and it was absolutely baffling.

(12-20-2020, 08:35 PM)enigma Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-20-2020, 08:32 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]It's a Christmas miracle!

So now you want Lawrence after saying you would take Wilson over him over in the college forums?

Lol. Whatever, just glad you came to your senses man!

I have said many times I have them graded very closely and I would be thrilled with either one. Yes, I do like Wilson a slight bit better, but there was no guarantee that he would even declare. If the Jets lost and kept the #1 pick and they took Trevor Lawrence and Wilson stayed in school, that would be my nightmare. Even if Wilson did declare, I wouldn't trust this team to draft him over Fields. With us having the #1 pick. All my fears can be laid to rest, as long as we lose out. In that scenario, we are guaranteed a franchise QB. I couldn't be happier.

(12-20-2020, 08:45 PM)enigma Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-06-2020, 10:27 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]As of now, I have the QB's ranked......

1. Zach Wilson, BYU
2. Trevor Lawrence, Clemson
3. Mac Jones, Alabama
4. Kyle Trask, Florida

Personally, I would be happy with any of these guys. I think this is a pretty deep class and all of these guys have a chance to be very good NFL starters.

(12-06-2020, 05:08 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]The level of competition cannot be helped. As far as the size, Lawrence is definitely taller, but he's a tall QB. At 6'3" 210 lbs, Wilson is far from being a small QB. He's actually taller than Aaron Rodgers and Deshaun Watson and those guys are considered pretty prototypical on their size. He could add some weight to his frame, but that will come. I have him just the slightest of hairs ahead of Lawrence right now, but I'd be thrilled with either guy. Outside of these two, I'd probably draft 2 QB's. One with our second 1st round pick and a project with high upside somewhere in the 4th or 5th round like Sam Ehlinger of Texas or Shane Buechele of SMU.

I totally agree about Fields.

(12-20-2020, 08:38 PM)Dimson Wrote: [ -> ]He never said he would take him over Lawrence. He said he would take Wilson over anyone QB if we stayed at 2.

Here ya go bud. I know exactly what I saw - and it was absolutely baffling.

Also got to understand at that time we had no shot at Lawrence.

(12-20-2020, 08:39 PM)Jags Wrote: [ -> ]Have no worry, friends, the Jags will inevitably find a way to [BLEEP] it up.

Stop it!

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(12-20-2020, 08:45 PM)enigma Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-06-2020, 10:27 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]As of now, I have the QB's ranked......

1. Zach Wilson, BYU
2. Trevor Lawrence, Clemson
3. Mac Jones, Alabama
4. Kyle Trask, Florida

Personally, I would be happy with any of these guys. I think this is a pretty deep class and all of these guys have a chance to be very good NFL starters.

(12-06-2020, 05:08 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]The level of competition cannot be helped. As far as the size, Lawrence is definitely taller, but he's a tall QB. At 6'3" 210 lbs, Wilson is far from being a small QB. He's actually taller than Aaron Rodgers and Deshaun Watson and those guys are considered pretty prototypical on their size. He could add some weight to his frame, but that will come. I have him just the slightest of hairs ahead of Lawrence right now, but I'd be thrilled with either guy. Outside of these two, I'd probably draft 2 QB's. One with our second 1st round pick and a project with high upside somewhere in the 4th or 5th round like Sam Ehlinger of Texas or Shane Buechele of SMU.

I totally agree about Fields.

(12-20-2020, 08:38 PM)Dimson Wrote: [ -> ]He never said he would take him over Lawrence. He said he would take Wilson over anyone QB if we stayed at 2.

Here ya go bud. I know exactly what I saw - and it was absolutely baffling.

I said I'd be thrilled with either guy and have them graded so closely that it doesn't matter much. If we have the #1 pick, we're guaranteed one of them and this ridiculous Justin Fields nonsense can be laid to rest. That would be a HUGE relief. We just need to lose out.

(12-20-2020, 08:21 PM)staropramen Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-20-2020, 08:18 PM)JAGFAN88 Wrote: [ -> ]Pretty Sure that is not Leon he is out this week

Whoever it is, he is an absolute idiot. Compared Lawrence to Jamarcus Russell.

Damon Jones...former Jaguars TE under TC in the 1990s.

I get what he was trying to say, but to me there is ZERO comparison between Trevor Lawrence and Jamarcus Russell.

1010xl clown now comparing Lawrence to Johnny Manziel. If hes a stand in he shouldn't be back.

(12-20-2020, 08:54 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-20-2020, 08:21 PM)staropramen Wrote: [ -> ]Whoever it is, he is an absolute idiot. Compared Lawrence to Jamarcus Russell.

Damon Jones...former Jaguars TE under TC in the 1990s.

I get what he was trying to say, but to me there is ZERO comparison between Trevor Lawrence and Jamarcus Russell.

(12-20-2020, 08:32 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]It's a Christmas miracle!

I want to be happy but I NEED us to lose 2 more first.

(12-20-2020, 09:02 PM)TownCenterJag Wrote: [ -> ]I want to be happy but I NEED us to lose 2 more first.

Agreed. I will be holding my breath for the next 2 weeks.

(12-20-2020, 08:49 PM)Dimson Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-20-2020, 08:45 PM)enigma Wrote: [ -> ]Here ya go bud. I know exactly what I saw - and it was absolutely baffling.

Also got to understand at that time we had no shot at Lawrence.

How you grade a player should not be reliant upon "if he's there or not when we are picking".

You start ranking from #1 downwards...

Lawrence has always been the best player and it will remain that way - regardless of who is picking #1.

(12-20-2020, 09:21 PM)enigma Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-20-2020, 08:49 PM)Dimson Wrote: [ -> ]Also got to understand at that time we had no shot at Lawrence.

How you grade a player should not be reliant upon "if he's there or not when we are picking".

You start ranking from #1 downwards...

Lawrence has always been the best player and it will remain that way - regardless of who is picking #1.

Does it really matter? If we stay at #1 and we take Lawrence, I'll be thrilled. If we fall back to #2 and we take Wilson, I'll be thrilled. Both are franchise QB's that I have ranked so closely that they are almost interchangeable. I just wanna stay at #1, because I don't trust this team to steer clear of Fields at #2. I'm tired of getting let down by this franchise. After 25 years of constant disappointments, we deserve a moral victory.