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(02-19-2021, 08:45 PM)copycat Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-19-2021, 07:29 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]Regardless of what you think a Senator's job is (and you're wrong about that anyways), it is an elite job. The average people have to BELIEVE that the elites are working for them or the Republic breaks down to nothing.

If you believe or even have to believe they work for your best interest you are beyond naive.

If you think this society and this republic can last even a week with everyone acting out of the detached cynicism you just expressed, you're the naive one.

Of course they don't always act in my best interest. They usually don't. My interests are very particular to me. But they often work in the best interest of the society as a whole. And when they don't they're usually smart enough to make it look like they are.

So, Ted Cruz escorting his family on a beach vacation bothers you, but when multi democrats take Caribbean Beach vacations during a government shutdown doesn't bother? Right!?!? Both look bad, by the way.

(02-19-2021, 09:49 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-19-2021, 08:45 PM)copycat Wrote: [ -> ]If you believe or even have to believe they work for your best interest you are beyond naive.

If you think this society and this republic can last even a week with everyone acting out of the detached cynicism you just expressed, you're the naive one.

Of course they don't always act in my best interest. They usually don't.  My interests are very particular to me. But they often work in the best interest of the society as a whole.  And when they don't they're usually smart enough to make it look like they are.

Politicians only work for themselves and the special interests that finance them.

Lol. An elite politician. A politician who works for the people. That's a good one. They haven't worked for the people in decades. They're a bunch of self serving jacktards who do nothing but whore themselves out to whoever gives them the best shot at getting what they want. Not a single person in DC is doing a damn thing for me or you, its all about them.

(02-19-2021, 09:49 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-19-2021, 08:45 PM)copycat Wrote: [ -> ]If you believe or even have to believe they work for your best interest you are beyond naive.

If you think this society and this republic can last even a week with everyone acting out of the detached cynicism you just expressed, you're the naive one.

Of course they don't always act in my best interest. They usually don't.  My interests are very particular to me. But they often work in the best interest of the society as a whole.  And when they don't they're usually smart enough to make it look like they are.

Maybe when more people wake up and realize they serve the system and not the people we can move forward and fix this broken system.

I did find this humorous.

Link didn't work for me.

(02-20-2021, 12:09 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]Link didn't work for me.

Fixed it for him

(02-20-2021, 01:27 AM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]Lol. An elite politician. A politician who works for the people. That's a good one. They haven't worked for the people in decades. They're a bunch of self serving jacktards who do nothing but whore themselves out to whoever gives them the best shot at getting what they want. Not a single person in DC is doing a damn thing for me or you, its all about them.

I guess if you expect nothing from people you'll never be disappointed.

(02-20-2021, 12:51 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-20-2021, 01:27 AM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]Lol. An elite politician. A politician who works for the people. That's a good one. They haven't worked for the people in decades. They're a bunch of self serving jacktards who do nothing but whore themselves out to whoever gives them the best shot at getting what they want. Not a single person in DC is doing a damn thing for me or you, its all about them.

I guess if you expect nothing from people you'll never be disappointed.

Agreed. I don't expect a lot. I just expect them not to run off to Mexico on vacation, during a natural disaster in their home state. If that is asking too much, what is the point of having government officials at all? Let's just go back to having an aristocracy.

Did Ted Cruz fix the weather issue yet?

(02-20-2021, 01:42 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]Did Ted Cruz fix the weather issue yet?

He’s back home and it’s warming up...so yes!

(02-20-2021, 12:43 PM)Bchbunnie4 Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-20-2021, 12:09 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]Link didn't work for me.

Fixed it for him

Thanks Bunnie, I struggle on the mobile device.

(02-20-2021, 04:35 PM)copycat Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-20-2021, 12:43 PM)Bchbunnie4 Wrote: [ -> ]Fixed it for him

Thanks Bunnie, I struggle on the mobile device.

No problem!

(02-20-2021, 12:51 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-20-2021, 01:27 AM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]Lol. An elite politician. A politician who works for the people. That's a good one. They haven't worked for the people in decades. They're a bunch of self serving jacktards who do nothing but whore themselves out to whoever gives them the best shot at getting what they want. Not a single person in DC is doing a damn thing for me or you, its all about them.

I guess if you expect nothing from people you'll never be disappointed.

I expect politicians to [BLEEP] over their constituents for their own benefit.  I've never been disappointed.

(02-20-2021, 12:51 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-20-2021, 01:27 AM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]Lol. An elite politician. A politician who works for the people. That's a good one. They haven't worked for the people in decades. They're a bunch of self serving jacktards who do nothing but whore themselves out to whoever gives them the best shot at getting what they want. Not a single person in DC is doing a damn thing for me or you, its all about them.

I guess if you expect nothing from people you'll never be disappointed.

I expect plenty from them. If I didn't it wouldn't irritate me.

(02-20-2021, 01:27 AM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]Lol. An elite politician. A politician who works for the people. That's a good one. They haven't worked for the people in decades. They're a bunch of self serving jacktards who do nothing but whore themselves out to whoever gives them the best shot at getting what they want. Not a single person in DC is doing a damn thing for me or you, its all about them.

That has always been true, for the entire history of democracy.  With a few very rare exceptions.

When you think about it, our entire system, governmental and economic, relies on people operating in their own self-interest.  That's the best system, because it relies on human nature.  History shows that any system that relies on idealism or altruism is doomed to failure.

(02-21-2021, 07:47 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-20-2021, 01:27 AM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]Lol. An elite politician. A politician who works for the people. That's a good one. They haven't worked for the people in decades. They're a bunch of self serving jacktards who do nothing but whore themselves out to whoever gives them the best shot at getting what they want. Not a single person in DC is doing a damn thing for me or you, its all about them.

That has always been true, for the entire history of democracy.  With a few very rare exceptions.

When you think about it, our entire system, governmental and economic, relies on people operating in their own self-interest.  That's the best system, because it relies on human nature.  History shows that any system that relies on idealism or altruism is doomed to failure.

It doesn't have to be an either/or, but the snarky jerks don't see it that way. 

I prefer very limited government. I used to believe people should be able to police themselves, that we could and should be self sufficient and self governing, but as time goes on I see that it is not possible. 

I look at just the Tide pod challenge from a few years back, the current Gorilla Glue fiasco involving adults, and all the others and realize that somewhere critical thinking ran off the rails. People blame everyone but themselves for their idiocy in every aspect of their lives instead of taking responsibility or not allowing the past dictate their present and future. That's why there are warning labels on everything from lawsuits that should never have seen a courtroom. It's why the victim mentality is so rampant.They're not able to self govern any more than I'm able to do an Iron Man triathlon. 

A line by Nick Fury to Steve Rogers in Captain America: Civil War is telling of how i see things anymore. I paraphrase: S.H.I.E.L.D. takes the world as it is, not how we want it to be. 

As someone who has always seen the optimistic side of things I am growing more pessimistic by the year. We have a government at the federal, state and local levels that allowed all the crazy that happened last year and with rare occurrence didn't say a word or move against it. 

That message along with many, many others sends a dangerous precedent. We have television, radio and print media who are encouraged to sow hate and discontent, and social media where everyone is a keyboard warrior intimidating and shaming anyone with whom they disagree. And this is not a left vs right 'we don't agree' issue, it's a 'you don't agree with me, so you're cancelled!" issue.

(02-20-2021, 08:09 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-20-2021, 12:51 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]I guess if you expect nothing from people you'll never be disappointed.

I expect politicians to [BLEEP] over their constituents for their own benefit.  I've never been disappointed.

You see what you want to see.