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(09-06-2021, 07:45 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]I liked Tyrod in the confines of that Bills team. I do not like him at the helm of a bad team. Remember the trucks and trailers comparison Stoner made. Tyrod is definitely a trailer, and the Texans are not a quality truck.

Lololol
(09-06-2021, 08:52 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]Lololol

Did you just sober up and realize you said Trask would be the top QB in this upcoming draft class if he were in it?
Id rather have Tyrod starting than Watson. Think the 5 man front can do a good job containing him from making plays with his legs.

Are they serious about Wingard starting? Guys got plenty of heart and effort but hes not starter quality.
Dude. What’s the deal with Wingard? Why In the world is he starting?
(09-07-2021, 03:13 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]Dude. What’s the deal with Wingard? Why In the world is he starting?

Hes the smartest guy in the entire league. Duh.
I dont like wingard starting but i dont expect him to hold it for long
https://twitter.com/Demetrius82/status/1...7667346434

I think Meyer is just playing the same games as he did with Lawrence. 

If he doesn't then the explanation is this: 

Wingard > Cisco. At this time. 

I know Wingard is disliked by most here but if he's starting it's because he's better than Cisco. 

There's no way internet posters can judge this better than a coach like Meyer. No way. I'm sorry if slowflakes don't like that but it's the truth. Some people here think way too highly of themselves.
i can't see anything on Tape that says WIngard is better than Cisco, i do know Wingard is a lunchpail kinda guy, a urban kinda guy. so maybe he has gotten better this offseason more than we have seen in the last two years. we have seen some postive plays from him but mostly negative over the positive.

i look at the Defense in the back with

Jenkins/ Cisco
Henderson and Griffin
Allen, Jack, WIlson and Chassion

what isn't to like about that.
(09-07-2021, 04:52 PM)CanDoBetter Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/Demetrius82/status/1...7667346434

I think Meyer is just playing the same games as he did with Lawrence. 

If he doesn't then the explanation is this: 

Wingard > Cisco. At this time. 

I know Wingard is disliked by most here but if he's starting it's because he's better than Cisco. 

There's no way internet posters can judge this better than a coach like Meyer. No way. I'm sorry if slowflakes don't like that but it's the truth. Some people here think way too highly of themselves.

(Emphasis added)

Bite your tongue!!!

Laughing
(09-07-2021, 04:52 PM)CanDoBetter Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/Demetrius82/status/1...7667346434

I think Meyer is just playing the same games as he did with Lawrence. 

If he doesn't then the explanation is this: 

Wingard > Cisco. At this time. 

I know Wingard is disliked by most here but if he's starting it's because he's better than Cisco. 

There's no way internet posters can judge this better than a coach like Meyer. No way. I'm sorry if slowflakes don't like that but it's the truth. Some people here think way too highly of themselves.

Or Meyer is wrong, so take it easy with the blind faith.
(09-07-2021, 06:03 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-07-2021, 04:52 PM)CanDoBetter Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/Demetrius82/status/1...7667346434

I think Meyer is just playing the same games as he did with Lawrence. 

If he doesn't then the explanation is this: 

Wingard > Cisco. At this time. 

I know Wingard is disliked by most here but if he's starting it's because he's better than Cisco. 

There's no way internet posters can judge this better than a coach like Meyer. No way. I'm sorry if slowflakes don't like that but it's the truth. Some people here think way too highly of themselves.

Or Meyer is wrong, so take it easy with the blind faith.

He's definitely done nothing so far to indicate he's worthy of unquestioned trust. He started off by trading away a young TE for peanuts, needlessly brought a coach with major red flags, drafted a RB in the first round, syphoned off starting reps from Trevor, etc.
(09-07-2021, 04:52 PM)CanDoBetter Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/Demetrius82/status/1...7667346434

I think Meyer is just playing the same games as he did with Lawrence. 

If he doesn't then the explanation is this: 

Wingard > Cisco. At this time. 

I know Wingard is disliked by most here but if he's starting it's because he's better than Cisco. 

There's no way internet posters can judge this better than a coach like Meyer. No way. I'm sorry if slowflakes don't like that but it's the truth. Some people here think way too highly of themselves.
I love when people make the blanket statement like you made.

There are NUMEROUS examples of people on this board being right and that’s not just 20/20 hindsight. Starting Wingard is the wrong move. Period. We have seen him get torched not just in pass coverage but in the run game too. He should be the last safety to play on this team.
(09-07-2021, 03:13 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]Dude. What’s the deal with Wingard? Why In the world is he starting?

Just more signs of Urbs not having a [BLEEP] clue about what he is doing as he continues to think he's the smartest man in the room.

It's the same dumb crap he did with the QBs. The same dumb crap as the -OR- between Robinson and Hyde. etc etc

They better keep him in the box the whole game because he has no business trying to play deep, or cover anybody.
(09-07-2021, 04:52 PM)CanDoBetter Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/Demetrius82/status/1...7667346434

I think Meyer is just playing the same games as he did with Lawrence. 

If he doesn't then the explanation is this: 

Wingard > Cisco. At this time. 

I know Wingard is disliked by most here but if he's starting it's because he's better than Cisco. 

There's no way internet posters can judge this better than a coach like Meyer. No way. I'm sorry if slowflakes don't like that but it's the truth. Some people here think way too highly of themselves.

Exactly what has Meyer done to prove that he can even judge NFL talent at all? This isn't College where he could get by on having the best talent on the field every game. He hasn't done jack [BLEEP] in the NFL to prove to anybody that we should just take whatever he does as greatness, or anything even close to it.
(09-07-2021, 08:09 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-07-2021, 04:52 PM)CanDoBetter Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/Demetrius82/status/1...7667346434

I think Meyer is just playing the same games as he did with Lawrence. 

If he doesn't then the explanation is this: 

Wingard > Cisco. At this time. 

I know Wingard is disliked by most here but if he's starting it's because he's better than Cisco. 

There's no way internet posters can judge this better than a coach like Meyer. No way. I'm sorry if slowflakes don't like that but it's the truth. Some people here think way too highly of themselves.

Exactly what has Meyer done to prove that he can even judge NFL talent at all? This isn't College where he could get by on having the best talent on the field every game. He hasn't done jack [BLEEP] in the NFL to prove to anybody that we should just take whatever he does as greatness, or anything even close to it.

It all starts Sunday. Hopefully Meyer proves you are wrong, like he has at every step of the road until this point. That’s what Jaguars fans want and deserve. Time will tell.
(09-07-2021, 08:16 PM)Newton Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-07-2021, 08:09 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]Exactly what has Meyer done to prove that he can even judge NFL talent at all? This isn't College where he could get by on having the best talent on the field every game. He hasn't done jack [BLEEP] in the NFL to prove to anybody that we should just take whatever he does as greatness, or anything even close to it.

It all starts Sunday. Hopefully Meyer proves your are wrong, like he has at every step of the road until this point. That’s what Jaguars fans want and deserve. Time will tell.

I hope he does.

Also, us winning is going to have a lot more to do with Trevor Lawrence than it ever will Meyer.
(09-07-2021, 08:09 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-07-2021, 04:52 PM)CanDoBetter Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/Demetrius82/status/1...7667346434

I think Meyer is just playing the same games as he did with Lawrence. 

If he doesn't then the explanation is this: 

Wingard > Cisco. At this time. 

I know Wingard is disliked by most here but if he's starting it's because he's better than Cisco. 

There's no way internet posters can judge this better than a coach like Meyer. No way. I'm sorry if slowflakes don't like that but it's the truth. Some people here think way too highly of themselves.

Exactly what has Meyer done to prove that he can even judge NFL talent at all? This isn't College where he could get by on having the best talent on the field every game. He hasn't done jack [BLEEP] in the NFL to prove to anybody that we should just take whatever he does as greatness, or anything even close to it.

Tell me how he got to have the best talent available? He could recruit mostly anyone he wanted so he got the best ones available. You see, it's not like he recruited scrubs because he knew who the best ones were. Why do you think he wouldn't be able to identify talent at the NFL level? 

Anyway, it's funny how this triggers people.
(09-07-2021, 06:03 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-07-2021, 04:52 PM)CanDoBetter Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/Demetrius82/status/1...7667346434

I think Meyer is just playing the same games as he did with Lawrence. 

If he doesn't then the explanation is this: 

Wingard > Cisco. At this time. 

I know Wingard is disliked by most here but if he's starting it's because he's better than Cisco. 

There's no way internet posters can judge this better than a coach like Meyer. No way. I'm sorry if slowflakes don't like that but it's the truth. Some people here think way too highly of themselves.

Or Meyer is wrong, so take it easy with the blind faith.

Blind faith? It's true with any coach at that level. It's true with coaches at the collegiate level. You do know they're watching at every single practice, right? People here are basing their ideas of players on what reporters write. Reporters are at the same practices but don't see nearly as much as the coaches. Unlike reporters the coaches also know the players' assignments so know who did what they're supposed to or not.
Texans added another weapon to their WR group in Danny Amendola
(09-08-2021, 01:00 AM)CanDoBetter Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-07-2021, 08:09 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]Exactly what has Meyer done to prove that he can even judge NFL talent at all? This isn't College where he could get by on having the best talent on the field every game. He hasn't done jack [BLEEP] in the NFL to prove to anybody that we should just take whatever he does as greatness, or anything even close to it.

Tell me how he got to have the best talent available? He could recruit mostly anyone he wanted so he got the best ones available. You see, it's not like he recruited scrubs because he knew who the best ones were. Why do you think he wouldn't be able to identify talent at the NFL level? 
Because it's a unique ability that not all have and he has yet to prove he possesses it.  Dave Coldwell didn't have it and neither did Gene Smith.  To assume success at the college level automatically translates into success at the NFL level is no more realistic for a HC/GM, than it is for a QB (enough said on that subject without mentioning any names).

Personnel decisions go beyond "talent" and there are multiple facets to consider, many of which are not supported by measurable statistics.  Justin Blackmon and Jalen Ramsey both had great "talent''.  

We all hope Meyer turns out to be great, but some of us aren't jumping on the bandwagon just yet.
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