(10-17-2021, 04:32 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]Not a surprise we were in London and the Refs gave us all the calls.
Agnew definitely touched that football and it should have been a Dolphins TD.
You are always upbeat and positive. Seriously, have you ever seen anything you liked?
What I saw and what I think, our defense sucks and the offensive play calling is looking for the "home run" far too often rather than pick up 10-15 yards.
(10-17-2021, 05:00 PM)SeldomRite Wrote: [ -> ] (10-17-2021, 04:46 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]You can literally see his left Index finger bend backwards on the replay lol
I recorded the game and the broadcast replayed it several times. If the ball touched him there wasn't any indication that I could see.
It definitely says something interesting that you're so convinced you did see something.
I recorded it and re-watched it multiple times as well. I didn't think it touched him at first, but that one angle clearly shows movement of his finger going backwards as if it barely made contact with the football. One finger doesn't just move backwards like that unless it's assisted by the ball.
(10-17-2021, 05:38 PM)jagman Wrote: [ -> ] (10-17-2021, 04:32 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]Not a surprise we were in London and the Refs gave us all the calls.
Agnew definitely touched that football and it should have been a Dolphins TD.
You are always upbeat and positive. Seriously, have you ever seen anything you liked?
#16 and #25
(10-17-2021, 05:39 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: [ -> ]What I saw and what I think, our defense sucks and the offensive play calling is looking for the "home run" far too often rather than pick up 10-15 yards.
The defense is a work in progress, giving up 20 points seems like an improvement. They really weren't able to pick up the tight ends for some reason
Considering how Miami was crowding the line of scrimmage, I think they needed to be taking even more shots to get them out of the box. I think the issue was Trevors inexperience, not that we had bad play calls
(10-17-2021, 01:48 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ]3. If there were a 3rd hero of the game, it is the Dolphins' DB that touched the receiver down on that 4th down slant. But for him lacking the awareness and touching him down, the Jaguars can't call time out, and the game goes into overtime. Actually, Bevell and Schottenheimer should get credit for that play call. They've been getting hammered all year for poor play calling, and deservedly so. But considering we had timeouts remaining, that quick slant to get us into FG range...throwing it close to the defender, was brilliant!
The rules actually state that if a player intentionally goes down, the play is dead so the Jags could have called the timeout, provided the Ref blew the whistle calling the play dead in time. I'm not certain if that was a 2020 rule change or a 2021 rule change but I heard it back a few weeks ago while watching another game.
(10-17-2021, 05:50 PM)CinciJag Wrote: [ -> ] (10-17-2021, 05:39 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: [ -> ]What I saw and what I think, our defense sucks and the offensive play calling is looking for the "home run" far too often rather than pick up 10-15 yards.
The defense is a work in progress, giving up 20 points seems like an improvement. They really weren't able to pick up the tight ends for some reason
Considering how Miami was crowding the line of scrimmage, I think they needed to be taking even more shots to get them out of the box. I think the issue was Trevors inexperience, not that we had bad play calls
Even though I knew all the holes on this team weren't likely to be filled in one off season, the performance of the defense is particularly disappointing due to all of the investment put into the defense this off season.
3 free agent DBs, 3 FA DLs, two highly drafted DBs...and we still can't stop many people.
(10-17-2021, 05:50 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ] (10-17-2021, 01:48 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ]3. If there were a 3rd hero of the game, it is the Dolphins' DB that touched the receiver down on that 4th down slant. But for him lacking the awareness and touching him down, the Jaguars can't call time out, and the game goes into overtime. Actually, Bevell and Schottenheimer should get credit for that play call. They've been getting hammered all year for poor play calling, and deservedly so. But considering we had timeouts remaining, that quick slant to get us into FG range...throwing it close to the defender, was brilliant!
The rules actually state that if a player intentionally goes down, the play is dead so the Jags could have called the timeout, provided the Ref blew the whistle calling the play dead in time. I'm not certain if that was a 2020 rule change or a 2021 rule change but I heard it back a few weeks ago while watching another game.
Good to know that. Clearly the Jags changed the play call after Miami called time out, it was absolutely brilliant
(10-17-2021, 05:50 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ] (10-17-2021, 01:48 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ]3. If there were a 3rd hero of the game, it is the Dolphins' DB that touched the receiver down on that 4th down slant. But for him lacking the awareness and touching him down, the Jaguars can't call time out, and the game goes into overtime. Actually, Bevell and Schottenheimer should get credit for that play call. They've been getting hammered all year for poor play calling, and deservedly so. But considering we had timeouts remaining, that quick slant to get us into FG range...throwing it close to the defender, was brilliant!
The rules actually state that if a player intentionally goes down, the play is dead so the Jags could have called the timeout, provided the Ref blew the whistle calling the play dead in time. I'm not certain if that was a 2020 rule change or a 2021 rule change but I heard it back a few weeks ago while watching another game.
But if he doesn't touch him, it would take at least a second for the ref to determine whether the guy went down intentionally or not.
(10-17-2021, 04:55 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-17-2021, 04:49 PM)MarleyJag Wrote: [ -> ]You are seeing things, Dolphin fan. Might be time for a trip to the optometrist.
You are obviously closing your eyes and choosing to ignore it because it definitely happened.
Lol, no. You are literally the only person who saw it with that opinion.
(10-17-2021, 05:19 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ] (10-17-2021, 04:28 PM)rpr52121 Wrote: [ -> ]But does he have to birdie #10 every week as well?
Not likely hahaha
We're gonna need you to at least be golfing on game day from now on, but also, ummmm, somebody has to cover one other minor detail for us to ensure victory.
https://twitter.com/MiaOBrienTV/status/1...67018?s=20
(10-17-2021, 06:03 PM)MarleyJag Wrote: [ -> ] (10-17-2021, 04:55 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]You are obviously closing your eyes and choosing to ignore it because it definitely happened.
Lol, no. You are literally the only person who saw it with that opinion.
Except for the fact that I'm not.
(10-17-2021, 06:19 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-17-2021, 06:03 PM)MarleyJag Wrote: [ -> ]Lol, no. You are literally the only person who saw it with that opinion.
Except for the fact that I'm not.
You're right, here's a guy that agrees with you.
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(10-17-2021, 05:54 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ] (10-17-2021, 05:50 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ]The rules actually state that if a player intentionally goes down, the play is dead so the Jags could have called the timeout, provided the Ref blew the whistle calling the play dead in time. I'm not certain if that was a 2020 rule change or a 2021 rule change but I heard it back a few weeks ago while watching another game.
But if he doesn't touch him, it would take at least a second for the ref to determine whether the guy went down intentionally or not.
Urb said that he told the ref, as soon as he goes down, it's time out.
(10-17-2021, 05:54 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ]But if he doesn't touch him, it would take at least a second for the ref to determine whether the guy went down intentionally or not.
Please.... it's ok to say you had the rule wrong.....
(10-17-2021, 04:32 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]Not a surprise we were in London and the Refs gave us all the calls.
Agnew definitely touched that football and it should have been a Dolphins TD.
No he didn't.
Also Phins got a ticket tacky call on a "clipping" penalty.
Hey I know... Instead of enjoying the win... Gfys
(10-17-2021, 05:50 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ] (10-17-2021, 01:48 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ]3. If there were a 3rd hero of the game, it is the Dolphins' DB that touched the receiver down on that 4th down slant. But for him lacking the awareness and touching him down, the Jaguars can't call time out, and the game goes into overtime. Actually, Bevell and Schottenheimer should get credit for that play call. They've been getting hammered all year for poor play calling, and deservedly so. But considering we had timeouts remaining, that quick slant to get us into FG range...throwing it close to the defender, was brilliant!
The rules actually state that if a player intentionally goes down, the play is dead so the Jags could have called the timeout, provided the Ref blew the whistle calling the play dead in time. I'm not certain if that was a 2020 rule change or a 2021 rule change but I heard it back a few weeks ago while watching another game.
I am pretty sure the give yourself up rule to call a time out is actually pretty old.
(10-17-2021, 05:59 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ] (10-17-2021, 05:00 PM)SeldomRite Wrote: [ -> ]I recorded the game and the broadcast replayed it several times. If the ball touched him there wasn't any indication that I could see.
It definitely says something interesting that you're so convinced you did see
https://twitter.com/e_dilla/status/14497...51556?s=21
Lol. I think Urban would have preferred a "touch back"
In the first half I thought we were going to get blown out, so it was good to see the defense stiffen up some as the game progressed.
I hated when they didn't kick the field goal - shoulda taken the points. But the decision to go for the fast first down at the end was awesome - it fooled everyone. Great call, great pass, great catch.
There was nothing to suggest Agnew touched that ball . . . the rotation of the ball didn't change, there was no change of direction. There was nothing in any of the playback views that could have even remotely been used to overturn the call.
I'm SO glad the Jags pulled it out!