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Quote:Look, I'm not sure how you got bamboozled into thinking that trump is going to be this amazing President, but I'm not buying it.


Jeb Bush is far more qualified than trump. You realize that trump basically said we'd go to war with iran is they antagonized one of our destroyers.


You realize how dangerous that is to say?


Hillary isn't a great candidate and a hawk, and a wall street Democrat. Trump is even worse.


Just listen to what he says about the middle East. His policies are more hawkish than Hillary's!

 

it's taking a chance with somebody who isn't owned by big banks and corporations. however small the chance might be.  it isn't 100% that it would be the same foreign policies.  with Hillary it is 100% we would do the same things.

 

so no, the only person getting bamboozled is you... cause they have your vote.

Quote:The truth has no bias.

 

It does when you ignore half of it. 

Quote:I have listened to his policies. Trump's most hawkish plan is to quickly eliminate ISIS. Every candidate has said they want to do this, even Hillary. Trump stated he wants to get out of the Middle-East after removing ISIS, and "possibly" leave behind ground forces to guard oil reserves from future terror organizations likely to spring up after their elimination. The difference comes where Hillary says she wants to continue arming "rebels" in the Middle-East and then establish a no-fly zone over Russian air bases in Syria. She wants to remove Assad from power then continue supporting Iran's nuclear rearming. Her continued arming of rebels will likely lead to more terror uprisings, where she will, again, have an opportunity to remove an established power (Like the Kingdom of Jordan) and insert her own puppet.

If small Iranian boats come up on a destroyer, trump will order them to be blown out of the water.


That's the most hawkish thing I've ever heard.

Quote:It does when you ignore half of it.

Tell that to the gop!!!

Quote:If small Iranian boats come up on a destroyer, trump will order them to be blown out of the water.


That's the most hawkish thing I've ever heard.

 

id rather have that than Obama giving destroyers to jihadists to do the work for him

Quote:it's taking a chance with somebody who isn't owned by big banks and corporations. however small the chance might be. it isn't 100% that it would be the same foreign policies. with Hillary it is 100% we would do the same things.


so no, the only person getting bamboozled is you... cause they have your vote.

How do you know he's not owned by big banks or foreign interests?

Quote:How do you know he's not owned by big banks or foreign interests?

 

is that a serious question? Jeeeee, uh, maybe because all mainstream news, politicians, and political parties who WE KNOW our owned by the mega banks or global corporations have been against him this whole time.  you can tell alot about a person by who his enemies are.

 

Paul Ryan

John McCain

Bush Jr

Bush Jr 2

Bush

Clinton

Kasich

Karl Rove

Romney

 

the list of scum that is against him goes on and on

Quote:id rather have that than Obama giving destroyers to jihadists to do the work for him

What?


You'd rather have ww3 than something you made up that would never happen??


Blind trumpette faith. It's embarrassing. Just admit that he's a hawk. It's clear.


And if you think that starting a ground war in Syria will be quick, do you remember the Iraq invasion???


I mean, do you guys even history? You all are embarrassing yourselves.

Quote:If small Iranian boats come up on a destroyer, trump will order them to be blown out of the water.


That's the most hawkish thing I've ever heard.

I'll just leave this here.

 


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<div>USS <i>Cole</i> after the attack
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On the morning of Thursday, 12 October 2000, USS <i>Cole</i>, under the command of Commander Kirk Lippold, docked in Aden harbor for a routine fuel stop. <i>Cole</i> completed mooring at 09:30; refueling started at 10:30. Around 11:18 local time (08:18 <a class="" href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTC' title="UTC">UTC</a>), a small fiberglass boat carrying explosives and two suicide bombers approached the port side of the destroyer and exploded,^[2] creating a 40-by-60-foot (12 by 18 m) gash in the ship's port side, according to the memorial plate to those who lost their lives. Former CIA intelligence officer Robert Finke said the blast appeared to be caused by explosives molded into a shaped charge against the hull of the boat.^[3] Around 400 to 700 pounds (180 to 320 kg) of explosive were used.^[4] Much of the blast entered a mechanical space below the ship's galley, violently pushing up the deck, thereby killing crew members who were lining up for lunch.^[5] The crew fought flooding in the engineering spaces and had the damage under control after three days. Divers inspected the hull and determined that the keel was not damaged.

Quote:How do you know he's not owned by big banks or foreign interests?

Big banks won't lend to him anymore. Foreign interests? He has a tattoo of Ivan Drago on his butt cheek, but I wouldn't read too much into that.

Quote:I'll just leave this here.

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USS Cole after the attack

On the morning of Thursday, 12 October 2000, USS Cole, under the command of <a class="bbc_url" href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commander_%28United_States%29'>Commander</a> <a class="bbc_url" href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirk_Lippold'>Kirk Lippold</a>, docked in Aden harbor for a routine fuel stop. Cole completed mooring at 09:30; refueling started at 10:30. Around 11:18 local time (08:18 <a class="bbc_url" href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTC'>UTC</a>), a small fiberglass boat carrying explosives and two suicide bombers approached the port side of the destroyer and exploded,^{<a class="bbc_url" href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Cole_bombing#cite_note-2'>[2]</a>} creating a 40-by-60-foot (12 by 18 m) gash in the ship's port side, according to the memorial plate to those who lost their lives. Former CIA intelligence officer Robert Finke said the blast appeared to be caused by explosives molded into a <a class="bbc_url" href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaped_charge'>shaped charge</a> against the hull of the boat.^{<a class="bbc_url" href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Cole_bombing#cite_note-3'>[3]</a>} Around 400 to 700 pounds (180 to 320 kg) of explosive were used.^{<a class="bbc_url" href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Cole_bombing#cite_note-Guardian_Bomb_Type-4'>[4]</a>} Much of the blast entered a mechanical space below the ship's <a class="bbc_url" href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galley_%28kitchen%29'>galley</a>, violently pushing up the deck, thereby killing crew members who were lining up for lunch.^{<a class="bbc_url" href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Cole_bombing#cite_note-Cosmopolitan010901-5'>[5]</a>} The crew fought flooding in the engineering spaces and had the damage under control after three days. Divers inspected the hull and determined that the <a class="bbc_url" href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keel'>keel</a> was not damaged.

BENGHAZI!!! oh.. wait. This didn't happen on a Dem's watch. Disregard the outrage.

Quote:How do you know he's not owned by big banks or foreign interests?

 

Stuff like this:

 



 

Hillary "Totally not owned by big banks" Clinton

Quote:BENGHAZI!!! oh.. wait. This didn't happen on a Dem's watch. Disregard the outrage.

I was more going for the Small boat equal American deaths point of view. Some small boats need destroyed when approaching United States Warships.

Quote:What?


You'd rather have ww3 than something you made up that would never happen??


Blind trumpette faith. It's embarrassing. Just admit that he's a hawk. It's clear.


And if you think that starting a ground war in Syria will be quick, do you remember the Iraq invasion???


I mean, do you guys even history? You all are embarrassing yourselves.

 

IT'S CLEAR. haha, please stop. the guy has never invaded a country or given weapons to jihadists to overthrow regimes (Hillary has, the person you're voting for, so what's your problem with Trump saying this? you shouldn't have one).  making an off the cuff remark where he's just saying he's not going to lay down in the face of Iranian aggression does not mean he wants to invade the country. settle down.

 

History? it was news to you just a few weeks ago that ISIS had US weapons.  now you're the expert.  you're a clueless mark.

Quote:What?


You'd rather have ww3 than something you made up that would never happen??


Blind trumpette faith. It's embarrassing. Just admit that he's a hawk. It's clear.


And if you think that starting a ground war in Syria will be quick, do you remember the Iraq invasion???


I mean, do you guys even history? You all are embarrassing yourselves.

 

Iraq invasion was an invasion of a nation-state to remove a dictator and forcibly install democracy. ISIS isn't a nation-state. It is a terror organization that is currently combating the Syrian and Iraqi governments. ISIS doesnt have a claim on any land. They don't have officially recognized borders. If Iraq refuses to let us guard the oil reserves after removing ISIS, then we bugger off and let them collapse (again).

Quote:Iraq invasion was an invasion of a nation-state to remove a dictator and forcibly install democracy. ISIS isn't a nation-state. It is a terror organization that is currently combating the Syrian and Iraqi governments. ISIS doesnt have a claim on any land. They don't have officially recognized borders. If Iraq refuses to let us guard the oil reserves after removing ISIS, then we bugger off and let them collapse (again).

ISIS doesn't have a legitimate claim to land, but the caliphate does control a healthy piece of real estate.

Quote:I'll just leave this here.

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USS Cole after the attack

On the morning of Thursday, 12 October 2000, USS Cole, under the command of <a class="bbc_url" href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commander_%28United_States%29'>Commander</a> <a class="bbc_url" href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirk_Lippold'>Kirk Lippold</a>, docked in Aden harbor for a routine fuel stop. Cole completed mooring at 09:30; refueling started at 10:30. Around 11:18 local time (08:18 <a class="bbc_url" href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTC'>UTC</a>), a small fiberglass boat carrying explosives and two suicide bombers approached the port side of the destroyer and exploded,^{<a class="bbc_url" href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Cole_bombing#cite_note-2'>[2]</a>} creating a 40-by-60-foot (12 by 18 m) gash in the ship's port side, according to the memorial plate to those who lost their lives. Former CIA intelligence officer Robert Finke said the blast appeared to be caused by explosives molded into a <a class="bbc_url" href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaped_charge'>shaped charge</a> against the hull of the boat.^{<a class="bbc_url" href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Cole_bombing#cite_note-3'>[3]</a>} Around 400 to 700 pounds (180 to 320 kg) of explosive were used.^{<a class="bbc_url" href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Cole_bombing#cite_note-Guardian_Bomb_Type-4'>[4]</a>} Much of the blast entered a mechanical space below the ship's <a class="bbc_url" href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galley_%28kitchen%29'>galley</a>, violently pushing up the deck, thereby killing crew members who were lining up for lunch.^{<a class="bbc_url" href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Cole_bombing#cite_note-Cosmopolitan010901-5'>[5]</a>} The crew fought flooding in the engineering spaces and had the damage under control after three days. Divers inspected the hull and determined that the <a class="bbc_url" href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keel'>keel</a> was not damaged.

Red herring. Nice try though!!! Lol

Quote:Red herring. Nice try though!!! Lol

Nope, just a big [BLEEP] hole blown in the side of a United States Warship  by a small boat that approached. Leading to the death of Americans.

Quote:Nope, just a big [BAD WORD REMOVED] hole blown in the side of a United States Warship by a small boat that approached. Leading to the death of Americans.

Was the boat docked? Was trump talking about docked destroyers??



I rest my case. Red herring.

Trump says something off the top of his head about Iran aggression, OMG HE WANTS WW3!

 

Hillary literally threatens military force against Russia for cyber attacks that they never did and she's somehow NOT worse.