(03-12-2022, 07:07 PM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: [ -> ] (03-12-2022, 06:50 PM)JaggedSioux Wrote: [ -> ]If you actually watched the clip instead of having your usual lame-azzed agenda, you'd see Pederson actually said there were positives in Trevor's year that they would build on. He also said TRevor's best work came in the final month of the season. Remind me who the interim coach for that period was again?
You mean when Bevell was not longer calling plays? LMAO
Also how "naive" are you? do you really expect an NFL HC to come out and just flat out say the past coaching staff was total garbage and that Trevor had an awful year? .gif "Laughing")
You're the one who referenced the clip. Doug and Bev aren't separated by much in their coaching tree, so I'm sure there's respect there that you are clueless about. AND Shotty called plays out of Bev's playbook with ongoing dialogue on the headset, so let's not make that another fictitious point of division.
(03-11-2022, 05:01 PM)I am Yoda Wrote: [ -> ]I love how literally the whole board will not allow MVP to gaslight!
Blue flames and jorts make for a bad mix.
(03-11-2022, 05:52 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote: [ -> ] (03-11-2022, 05:01 PM)I am Yoda Wrote: [ -> ]I love how literally the whole board will not allow MVP to gaslight!
Your an idiot then. Facts are facts, Laweeregce last year was near the bottom of almost every important Qb measure.
The gas lighting was the idiots I gladly blocked praising Lawrence's for every little small thing and giving him 0 blame.
Lawrence was bad by any non real glassed messeaure. Most people are idiots so not surprised most don't agree but idiots are everywhere. Thank God for the ignore feature Becarse the same idiots are saying the same thing while rarely sticking to the topic..
Their only defense of their view is the many excuses they give out.
Glad to see Pederson is hitting the reset button so hopefully he can become a good QB.
I imagine we'll be hearing how horrendous Pederson is by about week 4, is that right?
(03-11-2022, 08:20 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote: [ -> ] (03-11-2022, 06:17 PM)I am Yoda Wrote: [ -> ]To be judged by such a small intellect is entertaining. Dude, you're an over-the-top gasbag who craves attention. You did what you did. You said what you said. The whole board knows and remembers and esteems you accordingly.
I have smarter hamsters than you. Notice how I create threads talking about football and douche bags like you start hurling the insults. Little man syndrome but more in your case down syndrome.
The truth is most of the board is on BLIND FAITH. You could take Lawrence's numbers from last year and cut them in half and idiots like you would be screaming to the heavens how good he is. Another idiot to the ignore list.
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The insults only come when you keep digging. Before that, it's a respectful disagreement.
Own your words. Engage in discourse.
The flack you caught about all your threads is either that they've already been posted, were speculative baloney, or were just more of your rash judgments deeming a player beyond hope well before such a label was deserved.
Get over yourself. You'll find the board to be much more enjoyable when you stop trying to play the martyr.
(03-11-2022, 08:24 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote: [ -> ]Not botheing to read the trash he typed but right above me is a prime example of an Idiot who offers nothing of intelligence. Notice almost every one of his replies are some kind of insult instead of talking football. ^^^^^^^
not bothering to read the content but I'm going to blindly assume it says what I want it to say.
keep digging.
(03-11-2022, 08:26 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote: [ -> ]Copernicus was executed for not believing the earth was the center of the universe. Everyone was telling him he was wrong, he's an idiot, blah blah blah. Most people are sheep and just follow the herd. Few have real intelligence who can think for themselves.
And all the heaven's gate people are corpses because they believed a weird old dude who thought he was the smartest guy in the universe.
See? I can pull completely unrelated history into a discussion, too.
(03-14-2022, 09:03 AM)Mikey Wrote: [ -> ] (03-11-2022, 08:26 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote: [ -> ]Copernicus was executed for not believing the earth was the center of the universe. Everyone was telling him he was wrong, he's an idiot, blah blah blah. Most people are sheep and just follow the herd. Few have real intelligence who can think for themselves.
And all the heaven's gate people are corpses because they believed a weird old dude who thought he was the smartest guy in the universe.
See? I can pull completely unrelated history into a discussion, too.
And also, Copernicus was not executed.
(03-11-2022, 08:33 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote: [ -> ]Back on subject:
Good, bad, or otherwise last year was last year. The most important person's opinion on the matter is Doug Pederson and obviously he saw enough issues to start from scratch.
"Treating it like a Rookie Year"
"Rebuild from the ground up"
You don't say those things about a Qb who was fine. As I have stated, there are currently many issues with Lawrence's game. Hopefully Doug can work his magic and get Lawrence good.
as long as he doesn't try to reinvent mechanics, I think we'll be fine.
Trevor didn't look skiddish in the eyes of pass rush, which in my opinion curing a gun-shy QB is the toughest retraining needed.
We'll be fine, but again, we don't need to be burying the dude a few weeks into the season. Numbers or results may give us pause or concern, but pump the brakes before jumping off the cliff.
We're in good hands, both at HC and QB.
(03-11-2022, 09:00 PM)Khan Artist Wrote: [ -> ] (03-11-2022, 08:26 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote: [ -> ]Copernicus was executed for not believing the earth was the center of the universe. Everyone was telling him he was wrong, he's an idiot, blah blah blah. Most people are sheep and just follow the herd. Few have real intelligence who can think for themselves.
Did...did you just compare yourself to Copernicus?
@He's a real 16th century thinker@
(03-11-2022, 11:03 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ] (03-11-2022, 08:20 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote: [ -> ]I have smarter hamsters than you. Notice how I create threads talking about football and douche bags like you start hurling the insults. Little man syndrome but more in your case down syndrome.
The truth is most of the board is on BLIND FAITH. You could take Lawrence's numbers from last year and cut them in half and idiots like you would be screaming to the heavens how good he is. Another idiot to the ignore list.
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Alright some good company on that list! Welcome to the party boys 
Gooble gobble, one of us!
(03-12-2022, 06:50 PM)JaggedSioux Wrote: [ -> ] (03-12-2022, 06:21 PM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: [ -> ]Sure that's why Pederson (a SB winning coach) just said they will take this season as Trevor's rookie season, pretty much saying last year was a wasted year thanks to Bevell and Meyer.
If you actually watched the clip instead of having your usual lame-azzed agenda, you'd see Pederson actually said there were positives in Trevor's year that they would build on. He also said TRevor's best work came in the final month of the season. Remind me who the interim coach for that period was again?
I believe that was when Schotty was calling plays, or do you need a reminder on that too?
(03-14-2022, 09:07 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ] (03-14-2022, 09:03 AM)Mikey Wrote: [ -> ]And all the heaven's gate people are corpses because they believed a weird old dude who thought he was the smartest guy in the universe.
See? I can pull completely unrelated history into a discussion, too.
And also, Copernicus was not executed.
bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha
(03-14-2022, 09:20 AM)Mikey Wrote: [ -> ] (03-12-2022, 06:50 PM)JaggedSioux Wrote: [ -> ]If you actually watched the clip instead of having your usual lame-azzed agenda, you'd see Pederson actually said there were positives in Trevor's year that they would build on. He also said TRevor's best work came in the final month of the season. Remind me who the interim coach for that period was again?
I believe that was when Schotty was calling plays, or do you need a reminder on that too?
(03-14-2022, 09:07 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]And also, Copernicus was not executed.
bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Covered that above. Pay attention if you're going to eavsdrop.
(03-14-2022, 09:38 AM)JaggedSioux Wrote: [ -> ] (03-14-2022, 09:20 AM)Mikey Wrote: [ -> ]I believe that was when Schotty was calling plays, or do you need a reminder on that too?
bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Covered that above. Pay attention if you're going to eavsdrop.
Ok, please cite your source that Schotty was calling plays from Bev's book.
If the play improved that much once Bev was removed from the playcalling from that same book, it don't say much too good about your golden boy.
(03-14-2022, 11:41 AM)Mikey Wrote: [ -> ] (03-14-2022, 09:38 AM)JaggedSioux Wrote: [ -> ]Covered that above. Pay attention if you're going to eavsdrop.
Ok, please cite your source that Schotty was calling plays from Bev's book.
If the play improved that much once Bev was removed from the playcalling from that same book, it don't say much too good about your golden boy.
The flaw in your statement is that we don't know how much of that same playbook was being utilized when Meyer was still around.
With him out of the picture, Schotty and Bev dialed up an offense that was a better fit
for Trevor and the team.
(03-14-2022, 11:54 AM)JaggedSioux Wrote: [ -> ] (03-14-2022, 11:41 AM)Mikey Wrote: [ -> ]Ok, please cite your source that Schotty was calling plays from Bev's book.
If the play improved that much once Bev was removed from the playcalling from that same book, it don't say much too good about your golden boy.
The flaw in your statement is that we don't know how much of that same playbook was being utilized when Meyer was still around.
With him out of the picture, Schotty and Bev dialed up an offense that was a better fit
for Trevor and the team.
weren't you calling out someone in this thread specifically for speculation? Isn't that the same that you are doing here? Or do you have proof that what you infer was actual reality?
(03-14-2022, 01:36 PM)Mikey Wrote: [ -> ] (03-14-2022, 11:54 AM)JaggedSioux Wrote: [ -> ]The flaw in your statement is that we don't know how much of that same playbook was being utilized when Meyer was still around.
With him out of the picture, Schotty and Bev dialed up an offense that was a better fit
for Trevor and the team.
weren't you calling out someone in this thread specifically for speculation? Isn't that the same that you are doing here? Or do you have proof that what you infer was actual reality?
Not sure what you're getting at. Do you think an entire new playbook was drawn up for the final 4 games of the season? Or do you not think Schotty and Bev put the gameplan together and openly communicated strategy on gameday?
(03-14-2022, 01:36 PM)Mikey Wrote: [ -> ] (03-14-2022, 11:54 AM)JaggedSioux Wrote: [ -> ]The flaw in your statement is that we don't know how much of that same playbook was being utilized when Meyer was still around.
With him out of the picture, Schotty and Bev dialed up an offense that was a better fit
for Trevor and the team.
weren't you calling out someone in this thread specifically for speculation? Isn't that the same that you are doing here? Or do you have proof that what you infer was actual reality?
You are wasting your time. He is a Bevell cheerleader plain and simple, and not sure why he is still posting with our coaching staff overhauled.
(03-14-2022, 01:53 PM)SamusAranX Wrote: [ -> ] (03-14-2022, 01:36 PM)Mikey Wrote: [ -> ]weren't you calling out someone in this thread specifically for speculation? Isn't that the same that you are doing here? Or do you have proof that what you infer was actual reality?
You are wasting your time. He is a Bevell cheerleader plain and simple, and not sure why he is still posting with our coaching staff overhauled.
I like talking football? Wasting your time? Why? He's asking the questions and I'm answering.
(03-14-2022, 01:53 PM)SamusAranX Wrote: [ -> ] (03-14-2022, 01:36 PM)Mikey Wrote: [ -> ]weren't you calling out someone in this thread specifically for speculation? Isn't that the same that you are doing here? Or do you have proof that what you infer was actual reality?
You are wasting your time. He is a Bevell cheerleader plain and simple, and not sure why he is still posting with our coaching staff overhauled.
I like talking football? Wasting your time? Why? He's asking the questions and I'm answering.
(03-14-2022, 01:44 PM)JaggedSioux Wrote: [ -> ] (03-14-2022, 01:36 PM)Mikey Wrote: [ -> ]weren't you calling out someone in this thread specifically for speculation? Isn't that the same that you are doing here? Or do you have proof that what you infer was actual reality?
Not sure what you're getting at. Do you think an entire new playbook was drawn up for the final 4 games of the season? Or do you not think Schotty and Bev put the gameplan together and openly communicated strategy on gameday?
What I am getting at is that you refuted someone for posting speculation, and your entire premise is speculative as well. You tried to associate TLaw's improved final month as being due to the interim coach, but several here made a point to remind you that the interim coach had handed playcalling duty to the QB coach.
No, I in fact do not think a new playbook was drafted to end the year. But I do think that Bevell was either calling poor plays, not asserting his position with his head coach, or using a flawed playbook during his time as OC. It's highly likely that it was one or more of these causes for the poor offensive showing we had for weeks on end. I'll grant that the megalomaniac in charge previously would hamstring any coach, but either Bevell was unable to find plays in the book that agreed with both our roster's ability and the coach's vision, he did not take effort to convince the coach to take his recommended plays each week into the gameplan, or just tried to force the team to do things that did not suit them.
To say he had no role in the failure would be like saying Dave Caldwell didn't have a role in our implosion once Coughlin got his hands in the roster. He may not have bore all the blame, but he also did not do enough to undo the meddling that was hindering our progress. Coughlin was dismissed, Caldwell still had a chance to build. But, in the end, the implosion was still on his hands, in some part.
So what I'm getting at, if you are allegedly answering my questions:
Quote:Or do you have proof that what you infer was actual reality?
still waiting for that answer. without that proof, your stance is no more speculative than anyone else's around here. I'm good if we want to agree that everyone here is working in the realm of speculation, opinion, and educated guesswork. But at that point, none of us are qualified to assert any of our posts are more or less qualified than any others.
The evidence was right in front of you if youwere looking. Free of sour puss Meyer, the Jags played looser and freer kn those final four games. Fewer drops, fewer penalties -- was almost like a dark cloud hovering above them had dissipated.
Yes the seriously covid-depleted Jags got throttled by the Patriots, but they arguably won the Jets game and did wreck the postseason plans of the Colts.
And when Bevell turned playcalling duties over to Schotty so that he could turn his attention to the entire team, good things happened because for the first time all season, the entire coaching staff was in lockstep with the strategy they wanted to employ.
(03-14-2022, 09:38 PM)JaggedSioux Wrote: [ -> ]The evidence was right in front of you if youwere looking. Free of sour puss Meyer, the Jags played looser and freer kn those final four games. Fewer drops, fewer penalties -- was almost like a dark cloud hovering above them had dissipated.
Yes the seriously covid-depleted Jags got throttled by the Patriots, but they arguably won the Jets game and did wreck the postseason plans of the Colts.
And when Bevell turned playcalling duties over to Schotty so that he could turn his attention to the entire team, good things happened because for the first time all season, the entire coaching staff was in lockstep with the strategy they wanted to employ.
but again, this is entirely inference. My beef is that you call people out for throwing assumptions out there when your content is nothing but the same. Do you see that?
Your not speaking in cold, hard facts, and you can't get over the fact that your hero had a part in the misery that took the field last season. It's ok. He's nowhere near as hated as Urbz, and never will be. But the stink is on his hands, too.
(03-15-2022, 09:20 AM)Mikey Wrote: [ -> ] (03-14-2022, 09:38 PM)JaggedSioux Wrote: [ -> ]The evidence was right in front of you if youwere looking. Free of sour puss Meyer, the Jags played looser and freer kn those final four games. Fewer drops, fewer penalties -- was almost like a dark cloud hovering above them had dissipated.
Yes the seriously covid-depleted Jags got throttled by the Patriots, but they arguably won the Jets game and did wreck the postseason plans of the Colts.
And when Bevell turned playcalling duties over to Schotty so that he could turn his attention to the entire team, good things happened because for the first time all season, the entire coaching staff was in lockstep with the strategy they wanted to employ.
but again, this is entirely inference. My beef is that you call people out for throwing assumptions out there when your content is nothing but the same. Do you see that?
Your not speaking in cold, hard facts, and you can't get over the fact that your hero had a part in the misery that took the field last season. It's ok. He's nowhere near as hated as Urbz, and never will be. But the stink is on his hands, too.
Bevel is a good guy. But he’s a bad play caller. It is what it is. And nobody needs to White Knight him. He’s a good coach other than that. Not everybody’s cut out to be a play caller.
(03-11-2022, 08:20 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote: [ -> ] (03-11-2022, 06:17 PM)I am Yoda Wrote: [ -> ]To be judged by such a small intellect is entertaining. Dude, you're an over-the-top gasbag who craves attention. You did what you did. You said what you said. The whole board knows and remembers and esteems you accordingly.
I have smarter hamsters than you. Notice how I create threads talking about football and douche bags like you start hurling the insults. Little man syndrome but more in your case down syndrome.
The truth is most of the board is on BLIND FAITH. You could take Lawrence's numbers from last year and cut them in half and idiots like you would be screaming to the heavens how good he is. Another idiot to the ignore list.
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What a tool bag. Eventually he'll only be talking with himself on a message board.
How sad.