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Quote:There are more black women in college today than there are any other race and gender in America. Sorry, it isn't the 1990s, 1980s, 1970s, or 1960s anymore. We are about as equal as it is going to get, and its pretty damn equal. In fact, we are being so "equal" that we are reintroducing segregation on behalf of blacks who no longer want to share living arrangements with other races. Ain't that nice?

<a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/28906/'>Cal State LA offers segregated housing for black students</a>


Sure there's more. But I'm referencing all minorities too, don't imply I'm speaking about just black people. But to say that a white man and a minority are treated the same. They're not. This is speaking in a general sense, not the minority of the minority that have gone on to make something of themselves. They had the resolve and drive to do so. But they had to work a lot harder than others to get there dealing with things that say, a white person has.
Quote:Sure there's more. But I'm referencing all minorities too, don't imply I'm speaking about just black people. But to say that a white man and a minority are treated the same. They're not. This is speaking in a general sense, not the minority of the minority that have gone on to make something of themselves. They had the resolve and drive to do so. But they had to work a lot harder than others to get there dealing with things that say, a white person has.
 

In a general sense, I think you are wrong. Does it happen? I am sure it does. Is it widespread? No. Minorities aren't as bad off as you would like to believe (unless you are Asian and trying to get into medical school).

 

Acceptance rates at US medical schools in 2015 reveal ongoing racial preferences for blacks and Hispanics

 

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Wow, a lot of opinions expressed and all I was trying to say was....Let's get to football and leave social commentary out of the stadium.

 

But since some people bring it up.....It would seem to me that these players that are so motivated to express their concern about the state of "social inequality" in the United States......would do well to go to the neighborhoods and lead by their own example and contribution to the community.

 

Succesful athletes are in a great position to show these kids you don't have to rob,steal or

be a thug or gang member to be a success. 

I'm impressed by many of our Jaguars that are doing just that. Using their own success to help others.

 

What's the old saying...."Give a man a fish   and he'll eat for a day. Teach him how to fish and he'll eat for a lifetime."

There's a difference in a handout..... and a "helping hand."
Quote:Please explain why you would conduct a protest against a Great Symbol of the very country that allows you the right? Because you can? Grow up! Seriously. Find another way. And yes, if the NFL continues to allow this ridiculous behavior to continue or get worse on their stage....like the saying goes, it's a business. And millions of Americans will conduct business elsewhere. Just saying. Turn it around how you please.


Wallbash


Like the millions of Americans who turned off their tv's when Brandon Marshall took a knee?
Quote:In a general sense, I think you are wrong. Does it happen? I am sure it does. Is it widespread? No. Minorities aren't as bad off as you would like to believe (unless you are Asian and trying to get into medical school).

<a class="bbc_url" href='https://www.aei.org/publication/acceptance-rates-at-us-medical-schools-in-2015-reveal-ongoing-discrimination-against-asian-americans-and-whites/'>Acceptance rates at US medical schools in 2015 reveal ongoing racial preferences for blacks and Hispanics</a>

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How can minorities claim injustice or unfair treatment when considering medical school acceptance rates?


Any clue how dumb this argument is? No. You clearly don't.
I really don't care. If they think it's going to prove anything or do anything I don't care. This is America. People don't have to say the pledge of allegiance or sing or stand for anything.
Its just too bad our country won't get as upset about people not standing for the anthem as they should about politicians arming Islamic militants in the Middle East or selling policy to the highest bidders.
If I owned the team I would implement a rule for my players that if they wished to not stand they could do so in the locker room and then join the team on the field after the Anthem. Otherwise incur the consequences of which I would be the determining factor. You work for me you will uphold my codes of conduct at your workplace. One of them is showing what I determine to be appropriate respect for our Anthem when you are representing my investment.

Simple really.

Quote:No single race or group of people are the only ones who are oppressed. IMO, none are oppressed.



Oh really ?????? Are we really gonna go there?
Yo Boy's oppressed on this board.. It exists..
Quote:Thank you for being in one of the most dangerous professions there is. Cops get a lot of flack but I don't see any others standing up to put their life on the line daily. So I thank you. You have a tough job.
 

Cops are actually #15 as far as danger on the job. 

 

1 Logging workers 110.9 78

2 Fishers and related fishing workers 80.8 22

3 Aircraft pilots and flight engineers 64 82

4 Roofers 47.4 83

5 Refuse and recyclable material collectors 35.8 27

6 Farmers, ranchers, and other agricultural managers 26.7 270

7 Structural iron and steel workers 25.2 15

8 Driver/sales workers and truck drivers 24.7 880

9 Electrical power-line installers and repairers 19.2 25

10 Taxi drivers and chauffeurs 18 68

11 First-line supervisors of construction trades and extraction workers 17.9 130

12 Construction laborers 16.9 208

13 First-line supervisors of landscaping, lawn service, and groundskeeping workers 16.4 33

14 Maintenance and repairs workers, general 14.4 68

15 Police and sheriff's patrol officers 13.5 97

Quote:Cops are actually #15 as far as danger on the job. 

 

1 Logging workers 110.9 78

2 Fishers and related fishing workers 80.8 22

3 Aircraft pilots and flight engineers 64 82

4 Roofers 47.4 83

5 Refuse and recyclable material collectors 35.8 27

6 Farmers, ranchers, and other agricultural managers 26.7 270

7 Structural iron and steel workers 25.2 15

8 Driver/sales workers and truck drivers 24.7 880

9 Electrical power-line installers and repairers 19.2 25

10 Taxi drivers and chauffeurs 18 68

11 First-line supervisors of construction trades and extraction workers 17.9 130

12 Construction laborers 16.9 208

13 First-line supervisors of landscaping, lawn service, and groundskeeping workers 16.4 33

14 Maintenance and repairs workers, general 14.4 68

15 Police and sheriff's patrol officers 13.5 97
 

And thanks to the ignorance of others, that's prolly climbing in the ranks as we speak.. 
Quote:Cops are actually #15 as far as danger on the job.


1 Logging workers 110.9 78

2 Fishers and related fishing workers 80.8 22

3 Aircraft pilots and flight engineers 64 82

4 Roofers 47.4 83

5 Refuse and recyclable material collectors 35.8 27

6 Farmers, ranchers, and other agricultural managers 26.7 270

7 Structural iron and steel workers 25.2 15

8 Driver/sales workers and truck drivers 24.7 880

9 Electrical power-line installers and repairers 19.2 25

10 Taxi drivers and chauffeurs 18 68

11 First-line supervisors of construction trades and extraction workers 17.9 130

12 Construction laborers 16.9 208

13 First-line supervisors of landscaping, lawn service, and groundskeeping workers 16.4 33

14 Maintenance and repairs workers, general 14.4 68

15 Police and sheriff's patrol officers 13.5 97


Hmm well my job is #9.
Quote:Hmm well my job is #9.


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I wonder if Kap sits during 9/11 tomorrow?
The only reason I "care" about it is we don't need to hear the commentators yapping about it between game plays. That's not why we watch sports. If I want to hear about it I'll come here or look it up online.
This is just saddening.

 

I thought we as people and Americans were better than this.

 

As the days go by, I am proven more and more wrong.

 

Someday I hope this country is one again.

Quote:This is just saddening.


I thought we as people and Americans were better than this.


As the days go by, I am proven more and more wrong.


Someday I hope this country is one again.


If America wasn't such a mess there wouldn't be the need to protest.
Quote:If America wasn't such a mess there wouldn't be the need to protest.
I hope you fix it all.

 

You can choose to be part of the problem, or choose to be part of the solution.

 

So, what's your fix?
Quote:I hope you fix it all.


You can choose to be part of the problem, or choose to be part of the solution.


So, what's your fix?


Having the capacity to empathize with a group being victimized and not getting bent out of shape that players are taking a knee is being part of the problem? And I assume sit down, shut up and wave a flag is your definition of being part of the solution? Don't think for a second why minorities feel marginalized when they are seeing their people killed by trigger happy cops without need? I'm not dumb enough to say cops shouldn't be alert and aware of the people they encounter, but there are more than enough recent examples of cops killing people unnecessarily to understand why people are upset.


It's not a mess I created, and it's not a mess one person can fix (though it's nice to know you think so highly of my abilities). Relationships need to be mended. People need to be held accountable. More training for cops makes perfect sense to me. I also support the mandatory use of body cameras on cops. I truly think most cops are good. But the bad ones grab the headlines. Let the camera support or contradict what gets put in the police reports. Good cops should have nothing to worry about. That's just scratching the surface. I'm sure there are other actions that can be taken people closer to the situation could recommend. But what measures can you say are honestly being taken now to diffuse the situation? Whatever it is sure isn't readily visible which is why these protests continue.
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