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(04-19-2023, 09:49 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]There's no proof Dominion participated in the Steal. It doesn't matter. They didn't need to be participants. Personally, I think it's all a red herring. They cheated by manipulating vote rejection rates, ballot harvesting, and, yeah, probably fraudulent voting.
You're just making stuff up. You're participating in a mass delusion. We've read about these in sociology books. Never thought you'd be a part of one did you?
Each media stream (Fox, CNN, MSNBC) heavily pushes their own agenda but the fact that FOX just flat out lied, which was clearly demonstrated by their hosts texting each other differing facts than what they presented on air is quite the hoax they are pulling on their viewers for their own financial benefit.
The difference between Fox Hosts and its Viewers are that the Fox Hosts are simply putting on a show of lies for significant financial benefits, whereas it's Viewers are the gullible followers that don't quite understand the reality of the Hosts' true intention.
I compare Fox Hosts to the OJ Dream Team Defense. Both were compensated significantly to present an agenda of deception in which they succeeded. However, they were smart enough to know the actual truth.
(04-19-2023, 03:20 AM)Jag88 Wrote: [ -> ]Fox is being sued at least a couple more times where they will most likely lose again. That’s a lot of money!
Yes, Smartmatic voting systems are suing them and Newsmax for defamation just like Dominion.
Fox will also settle the massive sexual harassment suit in order to keep it out of the courtroom and public eye.
(04-19-2023, 09:55 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (04-19-2023, 09:49 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]There's no proof Dominion participated in the Steal. It doesn't matter. They didn't need to be participants. Personally, I think it's all a red herring. They cheated by manipulating vote rejection rates, ballot harvesting, and, yeah, probably fraudulent voting.
You're just making stuff up. You're participating in a mass delusion. We've read about these in sociology books. Never thought you'd be a part of one did you?
Glad to see you're finally accepting of your other personalities.
(04-19-2023, 09:55 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (04-19-2023, 09:49 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]There's no proof Dominion participated in the Steal. It doesn't matter. They didn't need to be participants. Personally, I think it's all a red herring. They cheated by manipulating vote rejection rates, ballot harvesting, and, yeah, probably fraudulent voting.
You're just making stuff up. You're participating in a mass delusion. We've read about these in sociology books. Never thought you'd be a part of one did you?
Zing! Can't counter that masterful piece of rhetoric. I don't see how you can consider yourself an intellectual sometimes, man.
(04-18-2023, 09:45 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (04-18-2023, 08:42 PM)copycat Wrote: [ -> ]Agreed, I won’t hold my breath waiting for you to have the same scrutiny for the other side of the political news pundits.
What other outlets are handing out multi million dollar settlement checks?
(04-18-2023, 08:52 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ]The best part about this is the fact that Tucker Carlson, Laura Ingram and others are exchanging texts that totally go against the message that they are stating on air, but so many viewers are so gullible they don't realize that they everything the hosts are stating is a total lie and they're just in it for the money because their viewers don't want to accept the facts and see through their lies.
I enjoyed the movie "A face in the crowd". But when that exact scenario plays out in today's media environment, no one cares. They just keep following the guy who just called them scum.
Never change Mike, please never change.
(04-19-2023, 09:49 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]There's no proof Dominion participated in the Steal. It doesn't matter. They didn't need to be participants. Personally, I think it's all a red herring. They cheated by manipulating vote rejection rates, ballot harvesting, and, yeah, probably fraudulent voting.
There is proof that the votes were changed or incorrectly counted... i.e. Dominion but you can't prove they themselves did it. They did in fact program it to allow those things to happen and the vulnerable code to be exploited.
Changing votes is hard because you have to replace the ballots or hand recounts find them. Adjudication can take care of that as the ballot image is changed and if the original is "lost" you never know. Inserting votes is easier and can be done just before closing the polls. They need to print a ballot if paper copies are kept but that is easy to do.
It's a combination of all of those but the voter roll issues are the biggest problems because those ballots don't get delivered to people. They still are voted but they were never delivered to the address on file.
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(04-20-2023, 03:46 AM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ] (04-19-2023, 09:49 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]There's no proof Dominion participated in the Steal. It doesn't matter. They didn't need to be participants. Personally, I think it's all a red herring. They cheated by manipulating vote rejection rates, ballot harvesting, and, yeah, probably fraudulent voting.
There is proof that the votes were changed or incorrectly counted... i.e. Dominion but you can't prove they themselves did it. They did in fact program it to allow those things to happen and the vulnerable code to be exploited.
Changing votes is hard because you have to replace the ballots or hand recounts find them. Adjudication can take care of that as the ballot image is changed and if the original is "lost" you never know. Inserting votes is easier and can be done just before closing the polls. They need to print a ballot if paper copies are kept but that is easy to do.
It's a combination of all of those but the voter roll issues are the biggest problems because those ballots don't get delivered to people. They still are voted but they were never delivered to the address on file.
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No. None of that happened. Perhaps a few hundred ballots went to wrong addresses. Not tens of thousands.
(04-20-2023, 07:04 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (04-20-2023, 03:46 AM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ]There is proof that the votes were changed or incorrectly counted... i.e. Dominion but you can't prove they themselves did it. They did in fact program it to allow those things to happen and the vulnerable code to be exploited.
Changing votes is hard because you have to replace the ballots or hand recounts find them. Adjudication can take care of that as the ballot image is changed and if the original is "lost" you never know. Inserting votes is easier and can be done just before closing the polls. They need to print a ballot if paper copies are kept but that is easy to do.
It's a combination of all of those but the voter roll issues are the biggest problems because those ballots don't get delivered to people. They still are voted but they were never delivered to the address on file.
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No. None of that happened. Perhaps a few hundred ballots went to wrong addresses. Not tens of thousands.
Have you looked at any of the reports being released recently? They are using software to validate addresses with county tax, business, and assessments to flag addresses that are not homes or have unusual numbers of registered voters for the county records that show the Sq ft and number of apartments.
There are hundreds of thousands minimum and most of the voter rolls are up to 2x the actual voting again population.
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(04-20-2023, 07:04 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (04-20-2023, 03:46 AM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ]There is proof that the votes were changed or incorrectly counted... i.e. Dominion but you can't prove they themselves did it. They did in fact program it to allow those things to happen and the vulnerable code to be exploited.
Changing votes is hard because you have to replace the ballots or hand recounts find them. Adjudication can take care of that as the ballot image is changed and if the original is "lost" you never know. Inserting votes is easier and can be done just before closing the polls. They need to print a ballot if paper copies are kept but that is easy to do.
It's a combination of all of those but the voter roll issues are the biggest problems because those ballots don't get delivered to people. They still are voted but they were never delivered to the address on file.
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No. None of that happened. Perhaps a few hundred ballots went to wrong addresses. Not tens of thousands.
Look how confidently you speak of something you can't possibly know. Elections are a billion-dollar industry, man. 14 billion dollars was spent in 2020. 6.6 billion dollars, just for the presidential race, which was more than the previous 2 elections combined. You think we're paying for that? 20% of that is less than 200 bucks, the rest of that comes from SuperPacs, in which Biden almost doubled Trump's budget. With that amount of powerful influence supporting Biden and the staggering amounts of money being thrown around, you think there's NO possible way any of that is being used in a corrupt way? It's all on the up and up?
This is my problem with moderates. You guys are blinded by your idealism when every fact supports the idea that our government works for the powerful.
We can argue the subtleties of voter manipulation all day but it doesn’t change the fact Fox News actively forwarded a lie. It pains me to say that because Fox is the largest counter to the Democrat rah-rah machines of the MSM, but they’ve become exactly what was claimed they were countering from the left. Like the other channels, with few exceptions in their programming, it’s an opinion network.
News Nation is becoming a 24-hour channel soon and I regard it with some trepidation because that seems to be the model for channels to start blurring the line between news and opinion.
(04-20-2023, 03:46 AM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ] (04-19-2023, 09:49 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]There's no proof Dominion participated in the Steal. It doesn't matter. They didn't need to be participants. Personally, I think it's all a red herring. They cheated by manipulating vote rejection rates, ballot harvesting, and, yeah, probably fraudulent voting.
There is proof that the votes were changed or incorrectly counted... i.e. Dominion but you can't prove they themselves did it. They did in fact program it to allow those things to happen and the vulnerable code to be exploited.
Do you really think Dominion did in fact program it to allow those things to happen and somehow YOU know it but the dream team of Fox Attorney's don't know it and advised Fox to pay $787 million to Dominion instead? #Denial
(04-21-2023, 05:44 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ] (04-20-2023, 07:04 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]No. None of that happened. Perhaps a few hundred ballots went to wrong addresses. Not tens of thousands.
Look how confidently you speak of something you can't possibly know. Elections are a billion-dollar industry, man. 14 billion dollars was spent in 2020. 6.6 billion dollars, just for the presidential race, which was more than the previous 2 elections combined. You think we're paying for that? 20% of that is less than 200 bucks, the rest of that comes from SuperPacs, in which Biden almost doubled Trump's budget. With that amount of powerful influence supporting Biden and the staggering amounts of money being thrown around, you think there's NO possible way any of that is being used in a corrupt way? It's all on the up and up?
This is my problem with moderates. You guys are blinded by your idealism when every fact supports the idea that our government works for the powerful.
If your ballot was sent to a wrong address, you would call and complain about it, and there would be a record of them cancelling the ballot that was sent to the wrong address and sending you a new one.
We don't have that many records like that.
We also have had many people investigate voter rolls and actually walk the streets to see if people actually live at the addresses listed. There are some bad addresses, but not enough to eliminate Biden's advantage over Trump in 2020.
6.6 billion dollars, Mikey.
(04-21-2023, 10:37 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]6.6 billion dollars, Mikey.
6.6 billion dollars can surely get a good conspiracy going.
But it's asymmetric. They make one mistake, or have one defector, it's busted.
Probably only takes a couple million dollars to bust it, in fact.
(04-21-2023, 09:43 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (04-21-2023, 05:44 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]Look how confidently you speak of something you can't possibly know. Elections are a billion-dollar industry, man. 14 billion dollars was spent in 2020. 6.6 billion dollars, just for the presidential race, which was more than the previous 2 elections combined. You think we're paying for that? 20% of that is less than 200 bucks, the rest of that comes from SuperPacs, in which Biden almost doubled Trump's budget. With that amount of powerful influence supporting Biden and the staggering amounts of money being thrown around, you think there's NO possible way any of that is being used in a corrupt way? It's all on the up and up?
This is my problem with moderates. You guys are blinded by your idealism when every fact supports the idea that our government works for the powerful.
If your ballot was sent to a wrong address, you would call and complain about it, and there would be a record of them cancelling the ballot that was sent to the wrong address and sending you a new one.
We don't have that many records like that.
We also have had many people investigate voter rolls and actually walk the streets to see if people actually live at the addresses listed. There are some bad addresses, but not enough to eliminate Biden's advantage over Trump in 2020.
The people don't exist or they never registered. That is the whole scam with mail voting. The ballots are printed and "mailed" but they can't be delivered. The post office is supposed to catch that but they can't even validate that the address is correct to begin with. Only the mail carriers actually know what is really at the address. Some of the ballots do get returned but the majority have disappeared and then show up as voted.
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(04-21-2023, 11:35 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (04-21-2023, 10:37 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]6.6 billion dollars, Mikey.
6.6 billion dollars can surely get a good conspiracy going.
But it's asymmetric. They make one mistake, or have one defector, it's busted.
Probably only takes a couple million dollars to bust it, in fact.
There have already been whistle blowers and you called them liars. There is documented proof that all this stuff is happening but you refuse to actually read the reports yourself.
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(04-21-2023, 11:42 AM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ] (04-21-2023, 09:43 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]If your ballot was sent to a wrong address, you would call and complain about it, and there would be a record of them cancelling the ballot that was sent to the wrong address and sending you a new one.
We don't have that many records like that.
We also have had many people investigate voter rolls and actually walk the streets to see if people actually live at the addresses listed. There are some bad addresses, but not enough to eliminate Biden's advantage over Trump in 2020.
The people don't exist or they never registered. That is the whole scam with mail voting. The ballots are printed and "mailed" but they can't be delivered. The post office is supposed to catch that but they can't even validate that the address is correct to begin with. Only the mail carriers actually know what is really at the address. Some of the ballots do get returned but the majority have disappeared and then show up as voted.
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(04-21-2023, 11:35 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]6.6 billion dollars can surely get a good conspiracy going.
But it's asymmetric. They make one mistake, or have one defector, it's busted.
Probably only takes a couple million dollars to bust it, in fact.
There have already been whistle blowers and you called them liars. There is documented proof that all this stuff is happening but you refuse to actually read the reports yourself.
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So every mail carrier is "in on it"?
(04-21-2023, 11:55 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (04-21-2023, 11:42 AM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ]The people don't exist or they never registered. That is the whole scam with mail voting. The ballots are printed and "mailed" but they can't be delivered. The post office is supposed to catch that but they can't even validate that the address is correct to begin with. Only the mail carriers actually know what is really at the address. Some of the ballots do get returned but the majority have disappeared and then show up as voted.
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There have already been whistle blowers and you called them liars. There is documented proof that all this stuff is happening but you refuse to actually read the reports yourself.
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So every mail carrier is "in on it"?
Does it take every mail carrier to work?
(04-21-2023, 02:16 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (04-21-2023, 11:55 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]So every mail carrier is "in on it"?
Does it take every mail carrier to work?
The conspiracy fails if one mail carrier delivers or attempts to deliver packages that are not supposed to be delivered. If he's not "in on it" he will quickly ask "too many questions" and probably go to the press.
(04-21-2023, 03:12 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (04-21-2023, 02:16 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Does it take every mail carrier to work?
The conspiracy fails if one mail carrier delivers or attempts to deliver packages that are not supposed to be delivered. If he's not "in on it" he will quickly ask "too many questions" and probably go to the press.
So, no, it doesn't. Ok then.
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