04-27-2024, 10:55 AM
What we need to do is draft all skill players. Then on Sundays we can watch them get their butts handed to them and beat up/injured by the teams that drafted well in the trenches.
(04-27-2024, 10:51 AM)I am Yoda Wrote: [ -> ](04-27-2024, 09:15 AM)NoShoes Wrote: [ -> ]Your logic is flawed. They were never really on position to take a day 1 starter. So like it or not, starters were set.
That leaves depth. Not sure I’m looking for depth my first 3 picks but that’s just me. 4th round is high value for those guys.
I see where you’re coming from. But there were starter quality OL in rounds 1 and 2. As much as I absolutely LOVE BTJ, OL was by far the more important need. Same in round 2. Not matter how good Mason turns out to be, OL > DL.
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(04-27-2024, 12:14 AM)I am Yoda Wrote: [ -> ]They need to come away with 2 IOL at 114 and 116. Otherwise, 2024 is going to look like 2023. And that may still not be enough. Should have invested 48 in the Oline. If we cannot keep TL clean, nothing else we’ve done will matter. And I LOVE first round pick. This OLine has sucked donkey balls for years and they keep trying to fix it on the cheap, if at all.
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(04-27-2024, 12:18 PM)TheDuke007 Wrote: [ -> ](04-27-2024, 12:14 AM)I am Yoda Wrote: [ -> ]They need to come away with 2 IOL at 114 and 116. Otherwise, 2024 is going to look like 2023. And that may still not be enough. Should have invested 48 in the Oline. If we cannot keep TL clean, nothing else we’ve done will matter. And I LOVE first round pick. This OLine has sucked donkey balls for years and they keep trying to fix it on the cheap, if at all.
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Teams typically only keep two backup inside offensive linemen. If we draft one and have Tugboat for the other, that's two even assuming we cut Fortner. Even our backup tackles, Little and Hance, have guard experience for emergency depth. I don't see us taking more than 1 pure IOL early on Day 3. If we were to do something, you maybe take 1 IOL and then take 1 OT who can potentially also play guard. That scenario could make sense.
(04-27-2024, 07:04 AM)I am Yoda Wrote: [ -> ](04-27-2024, 06:44 AM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]They make perfect sense. Maason Smith is a disruptive presence that could be on the up and up.
Jones is considered the best nickel CB in this draft class in some areas. Drafttek has him #1 in that area and he was rated 98th overall on their big board.
The value there at 96 is perfect. Just hoping he goes OL here now with 114 and 116 and doesn't botch it with off ball LB's or a RB we don't need....
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IF. IF, we can get a couple of OL that make a difference, I’d be ok with finding a short yardage back. After ETN we don’t have a rb who can get us 1 or 2 yards when we need it.
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(04-27-2024, 12:23 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ](04-27-2024, 12:18 PM)TheDuke007 Wrote: [ -> ]Teams typically only keep two backup inside offensive linemen. If we draft one and have Tugboat for the other, that's two even assuming we cut Fortner. Even our backup tackles, Little and Hance, have guard experience for emergency depth. I don't see us taking more than 1 pure IOL early on Day 3. If we were to do something, you maybe take 1 IOL and then take 1 OT who can potentially also play guard. That scenario could make sense.
McCormick and Bortolini would take Fortner and Shatleys spots
(04-27-2024, 12:28 PM)TheDuke007 Wrote: [ -> ]Would cut Van Lannen or Brewer(04-27-2024, 07:04 AM)I am Yoda Wrote: [ -> ]IF. IF, we can get a couple of OL that make a difference, I’d be ok with finding a short yardage back. After ETN we don’t have a rb who can get us 1 or 2 yards when we need it.
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I hope we don't take a running back in the fourth round, but I would be fine with one in the 5th-7th round. If you look at our 53 man roster, I don't see a lot of positions where late round draft picks would have a good chance of making the team. However, running back is one of them. Teams typically keep 4 running backs. Because of injuries and needs at other positions, the Jaguars let their 4th running back (Hasty) go mid-season and haven't replaced him. They basically were using Snoop on their practice squad as their fourth running back, but even he's gone too. A depth pick at running back today does actually make quite a bit of sense. I am also one who would like to see a pure power back on this team for those short yardage situations.
(04-27-2024, 12:23 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]McCormick and Bortolini would take Fortner and Shatleys spots
Are you cutting Tugboat?
(04-27-2024, 12:31 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ](04-27-2024, 12:28 PM)TheDuke007 Wrote: [ -> ]I hope we don't take a running back in the fourth round, but I would be fine with one in the 5th-7th round. If you look at our 53 man roster, I don't see a lot of positions where late round draft picks would have a good chance of making the team. However, running back is one of them. Teams typically keep 4 running backs. Because of injuries and needs at other positions, the Jaguars let their 4th running back (Hasty) go mid-season and haven't replaced him. They basically were using Snoop on their practice squad as their fourth running back, but even he's gone too. A depth pick at running back today does actually make quite a bit of sense. I am also one who would like to see a pure power back on this team for those short yardage situations.Would cut Van Lannen or Brewer
Are you cutting Tugboat?
(04-27-2024, 12:41 PM)TheDuke007 Wrote: [ -> ](04-27-2024, 12:31 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]Would cut Van Lannen or Brewer
That wasn't the question. Are you cutting Tugboat? If not and you draft two IOL, you now have three IOL on the 53 man roster. You theoretically could do it, but that's a lot.
(04-27-2024, 01:21 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ](04-27-2024, 12:41 PM)TheDuke007 Wrote: [ -> ]That wasn't the question. Are you cutting Tugboat? If not and you draft two IOL, you now have three IOL on the 53 man roster. You theoretically could do it, but that's a lot.
We need that depth with the injury history of our interior oline. Van Lannen and Brewer are on the roster still
(04-27-2024, 01:49 PM)TheDuke007 Wrote: [ -> ](04-27-2024, 01:21 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]We need that depth with the injury history of our interior oline. Van Lannen and Brewer are on the roster still
Van Lanen and Brewer are not projected to make our 53 man roster. As such, cutting them doesn't open up a position for someone else.
Just to be clear, if no injuries, you are advocating keeping 3 interior offensive linemen on the 53 man roster (2 rookies and Tugboat)? If not, which one are you cutting?