08-18-2024, 02:31 PM
08-18-2024, 02:41 PM
(08-18-2024, 02:31 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]No surprise here. QB1 Gardner Minshew. Lol, Minshew haters
https://www.si.com/nfl/raiders/news/brea...j5kam2jhg0
Yeah, he beat out that stud Aidan O’Connell and some dude named Carter Bradley. LOL
And who are these ‘Minshew haters’ anyway?
08-18-2024, 02:42 PM
(08-18-2024, 02:31 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]No surprise here. QB1 Gardner Minshew. Lol, Minshew haters
https://www.si.com/nfl/raiders/news/brea...j5kam2jhg0
This seems like an odd thread for that post.
Anyways, I though Mac Jones looked pretty good. I'd be happy to swap him for a 2nd, were that opportunity there, but I'm also happy to keep him as our backup. I've never thought Beathard was a good enough backup. He has a noodle arm. Unfortunately, I don't think Jones will resign here.
08-18-2024, 03:19 PM
Mac10 looked good last night. Trev better not have a string of bad games...could get noisy.
08-18-2024, 05:34 PM
(08-18-2024, 03:19 PM)Hard_Eight Wrote: [ -> ]Mac10 looked good last night. Trev better not have a string of bad games...could get noisy.
LOL no... Just no.. lolol
08-18-2024, 05:41 PM
(08-18-2024, 05:34 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ](08-18-2024, 03:19 PM)Hard_Eight Wrote: [ -> ]Mac10 looked good last night. Trev better not have a string of bad games...could get noisy.
LOL no... Just no.. lolol
LOL, a reporter at the end of Doug's interview last night was going there. Doug looked at him with a silly grin and just said something like "Really? Really? Your not serious are you? "
08-18-2024, 06:12 PM
(08-18-2024, 02:13 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ](08-16-2024, 07:16 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]Very possible. I was just looking at it with the thought in mind of giving Darnold every chance to fail. If he stinks it up for 3 or 4 weeks it's a no question decision to put the new kid in and ride out the season no matter what. People will be ok if he has some stinkers because they already seen Darnold is no good.
You start the new kid right away and he struggles, you're then going to have people wondering/asking to see if Darnold would give them a better chance at winning. At that point though you can't pull the rookie, you're pretty much forced to ride it out with him.
He went to a team that had a top 5 rushing attack and a top 5 defense lol. They won 10 games and made the playoffs. I'd hardly call that an impossible situation he was thrust into.
Mac Jones made the pro bowl his first year in New England, when Josh McDaniels was the OC. But when McDaniels left, Belichick took Matt Patricia, who had never coached offense his entire life, and made him the offensive coordinator. Then Belichick took Joe Judge, the special teams coach, and made him the quarterback coach.
That is malpractice on a grand scale.
Yeah, Belichik was believing his own press clippings. Like someone said above, he was exposed for his real skill level when Brady left. The only good years he has other than with Brady was with Bledsoe.
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(08-18-2024, 03:19 PM)Hard_Eight Wrote: [ -> ]Mac10 looked good last night. Trev better not have a string of bad games...could get noisy.
Not a chance.
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08-18-2024, 06:48 PM
(08-18-2024, 02:41 PM)RicoTx Wrote: [ -> ](08-18-2024, 02:31 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]No surprise here. QB1 Gardner Minshew. Lol, Minshew haters
https://www.si.com/nfl/raiders/news/brea...j5kam2jhg0
Yeah, he beat out that stud Aidan O’Connell and some dude named Carter Bradley. LOL
And who are these ‘Minshew haters’ anyway?
You must be new here.
08-18-2024, 06:51 PM
(08-18-2024, 06:48 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ](08-18-2024, 02:41 PM)RicoTx Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah, he beat out that stud Aidan O’Connell and some dude named Carter Bradley. LOL
And who are these ‘Minshew haters’ anyway?
You must be new here.
I never saw this hate you're referring to. Unless you're saying that the people that didn't want Minshew starting over Trevor are "Minshew haters". Or are you referring to people talking about Minshew's shortcomings? Because they still exist. He's not a QB1 right now because he's a stud. He's a QB1 because the Raiders have jack [BLEEP] for options right now.
08-18-2024, 06:59 PM
(08-18-2024, 06:51 PM)Charlie Sheen Wrote: [ -> ](08-18-2024, 06:48 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]You must be new here.
I never saw this hate you're referring to. Unless you're saying that the people that didn't want Minshew starting over Trevor are "Minshew haters". Or are you referring to people talking about Minshew's shortcomings? Because they still exist. He's not a QB1 right now because he's a stud. He's a QB1 because the Raiders have jack [BLEEP] for options right now.
There were multiple people that said Minshew sucks. Some said he would never be a starting QB and here we are, hes now a starter in LA. The Raiders could have drafted another QB or brought in another QB but they went with Minshew. He has shortcomings but so have other QBs that have succeeded in this legaue. He gave the Colts a chance last year and looks like he will have another opportunity in LA. No backup QB make more than Minshew.
08-18-2024, 07:15 PM
(08-18-2024, 02:31 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]No surprise here. QB1 Gardner Minshew. Lol, Minshew haters
https://www.si.com/nfl/raiders/news/brea...j5kam2jhg0
Minshew has heart. You can’t coach that. And he has enough skill to be a starter. He just needs a team to believe in him and build an offense for his skill set. If Baker, Geno, etc, can start in this league, so can Gardner.
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08-18-2024, 07:40 PM
(08-18-2024, 07:15 PM)I am Yoda Wrote: [ -> ](08-18-2024, 02:31 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]No surprise here. QB1 Gardner Minshew. Lol, Minshew haters
https://www.si.com/nfl/raiders/news/brea...j5kam2jhg0
Minshew has heart. You can’t coach that. And he has enough skill to be a starter. He just needs a team to believe in him and build an offense for his skill set. If Baker, Geno, etc, can start in this league, so can Gardner.
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Agreed
08-18-2024, 07:47 PM
And there are people saying Trevor sucks. It happens. I just think it's weird that you posted this as if people hated him.
Minshew is a serviceable QB that can step into a starting role. He's not elite and he can't make the elite throws.
Minshew is a serviceable QB that can step into a starting role. He's not elite and he can't make the elite throws.
08-18-2024, 07:50 PM
08-18-2024, 08:54 PM
(08-18-2024, 07:15 PM)I am Yoda Wrote: [ -> ](08-18-2024, 02:31 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]No surprise here. QB1 Gardner Minshew. Lol, Minshew haters
https://www.si.com/nfl/raiders/news/brea...j5kam2jhg0
Minshew has heart. You can’t coach that. And he has enough skill to be a starter. He just needs a team to believe in him and build an offense for his skill set. If Baker, Geno, etc, can start in this league, so can Gardner.
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Minshew doesn't have half the arm of either of those guys. He's a fun player who can do in a pinch, but the minute he's the lead the other teams know exactly how to stop him.
08-18-2024, 09:17 PM
(08-18-2024, 08:54 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ](08-18-2024, 07:15 PM)I am Yoda Wrote: [ -> ]Minshew has heart. You can’t coach that. And he has enough skill to be a starter. He just needs a team to believe in him and build an offense for his skill set. If Baker, Geno, etc, can start in this league, so can Gardner.
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Minshew doesn't have half the arm of either of those guys. He's a fun player who can do in a pinch, but the minute he's the lead the other teams know exactly how to stop him.
Oh, look! It’s the resident contrarian.

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08-18-2024, 09:21 PM
(08-18-2024, 09:17 PM)I am Yoda Wrote: [ -> ](08-18-2024, 08:54 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Minshew doesn't have half the arm of either of those guys. He's a fun player who can do in a pinch, but the minute he's the lead the other teams know exactly how to stop him.
Oh, look! It’s the resident contrarian.
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Lol, you guys seriously think that GM3 is comparable to the previous #1 overall pick? And you wanna use arm strength as the metric? Ya'll have some short memories. Like I said, fun player who can make a spot start, but he's on his 4th team for a reason.
08-18-2024, 09:29 PM
(08-18-2024, 07:15 PM)I am Yoda Wrote: [ -> ]You can’t watch Minshew and Geno play and think they’re the same.(08-18-2024, 02:31 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]No surprise here. QB1 Gardner Minshew. Lol, Minshew haters
https://www.si.com/nfl/raiders/news/brea...j5kam2jhg0
Minshew has heart. You can’t coach that. And he has enough skill to be a starter. He just needs a team to believe in him and build an offense for his skill set. If Baker, Geno, etc, can start in this league, so can Gardner.
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There’s a reason Minshew keeps bouncing from team to team.
Minshew will probably be on the Panthers next year and then the Jets or something.
08-18-2024, 09:57 PM
All these arguments have their point, but we should have still kept Minshew on the cheap when we had the chance. Trading him was ridiculous. However, for Minshew the trade clearly worked in his favor, so it’s all water under the bridge. I still really enjoy his energy as a presence in the league.
08-18-2024, 10:05 PM
(08-18-2024, 09:57 PM)Newton Wrote: [ -> ]All these arguments have their point, but we should have still kept Minshew on the cheap when we had the chance. Trading him was ridiculous. However, for Minshew the trade clearly worked in his favor, so it’s all water under the bridge. I still really enjoy his energy as a presence in the league.
Nah, it made sense to do. There was still a contingent of people that wanted him to start over Trevor and the noise would have only gotten louder once Trevor had string of bad games in year 1 and the first half of year 2.