(10-31-2024, 11:06 AM)cland Wrote: [ -> ]I predicted somewhere in an earlier thread that trading Cam Robinson without a solid backup was a bad idea, now I'll have to sit back and see if I was right. I agree that Cam's attitude was trade worthy, but I have a bad feeling about a below-average line starting a new LT mid-season. Good luck and Godspeed Trevor Lawrence.
LOL
Walker Little was a second round pick that would have gone in the first if not for injury.
He has starts under his belt in the league including the past two weeks.
Many Jags fans have wanted him to take Cam's spot for years.
Labeling him as less than a solid backup is ill-informed on your part.
(10-31-2024, 02:33 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ] (10-31-2024, 11:06 AM)cland Wrote: [ -> ]I predicted somewhere in an earlier thread that trading Cam Robinson without a solid backup was a bad idea, now I'll have to sit back and see if I was right. I agree that Cam's attitude was trade worthy, but I have a bad feeling about a below-average line starting a new LT mid-season. Good luck and Godspeed Trevor Lawrence.
LOL
Walker Little was a second round pick that would have gone in the first if not for injury.
He has starts under his belt in the league including the past two weeks.
Many Jags fans have wanted him to take Cam's spot for years.
Labeling him as less than a solid backup is ill-informed on your part.
In reference to Walker Little:
NYC4Jags Wrote:Trevor got put on his [BLEEP] twice last week due to Little getting owned.
I'll remain skeptical but he did great against the hapless pats... so... whatever.. we're screwed.
Err, which opinion are you going with???
(10-31-2024, 06:31 PM)cland Wrote: [ -> ] (10-31-2024, 02:33 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]LOL
Walker Little was a second round pick that would have gone in the first if not for injury.
He has starts under his belt in the league including the past two weeks.
Many Jags fans have wanted him to take Cam's spot for years.
Labeling him as less than a solid backup is ill-informed on your part.
In reference to Walker Little:
NYC4Jags Wrote:Trevor got put on his [BLEEP] twice last week due to Little getting owned.
I'll remain skeptical but he did great against the hapless pats... so... whatever.. we're screwed.
Err, which opinion are you going with???
There is zero contradiction.
A player can be better than "not a solid backup" and still give up pressures.
He had a perfect game the week before that but I didn't expect that to be his weekly standard.
Your team has three starting linemen that have given up double digit pressures in 8 weeks.
Are you over on the tinhorn board labeling them "less than a solid backup?"
err...
(10-30-2024, 10:58 PM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2024, 08:40 PM)Jag149 Wrote: [ -> ]Using this formula the comp pick would have been a 5th or 6th depending...so at worst we break even. If Cam performs well we would gain a round (4th) A bird in the hand...
https://overthecap.com/the-basics-and-me...raft-picks
He will sign a top 10% deal, so it would be a 4th or higher. I haven't looked at the LT market but if no one else was there, he could have been overpaid.
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Based on what?
His age?
His injury history?
His refusal to play anywhere than LT?
His superior play?
You really think someone is paying 30 year old cam 20+ per year?
(11-01-2024, 11:12 AM)Mikey Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2024, 10:58 PM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ]He will sign a top 10% deal, so it would be a 4th or higher. I haven't looked at the LT market but if no one else was there, he could have been overpaid.
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Based on what?
His age?
His injury history?
His refusal to play anywhere than LT?
His superior play?
You really think someone is paying 30 year old cam 20+ per year?
I asked what team would pay that as well. Seems we will just have to wait to see which opinion is correct.
Bye Felicia! It's a shame we're two years behind on this decision. Oft injured and overpaid. Makes the next few games exciting with Walker Little, maybe we can get a starting caliber LT out of him worth resigning so we don't have to invest in potentially moving Harrison over there next year and drafting another RT.
(11-01-2024, 11:12 AM)Mikey Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2024, 10:58 PM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ]He will sign a top 10% deal, so it would be a 4th or higher. I haven't looked at the LT market but if no one else was there, he could have been overpaid.
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Based on what?
His age?
His injury history?
His refusal to play anywhere than LT?
His superior play?
You really think someone is paying 30 year old cam 20+ per year?
(11-01-2024, 12:05 PM)Jag149 Wrote: [ -> ] (11-01-2024, 11:12 AM)Mikey Wrote: [ -> ]Based on what?
His age?
His injury history?
His refusal to play anywhere than LT?
His superior play?
You really think someone is paying 30 year old cam 20+ per year?
I asked what team would pay that as well. Seems we will just have to wait to see which opinion is correct.
He's the top LT FA. All the others are older than him. Someone will have to overpay to sign him. He potentially could see the top contract for LT for a year or two just because that is how it works and there isn't competition this off-season.
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Cam is playing with fire tonight. The crew is showing some great footage of his play and I wonder why wasn't he playing with this type of fire with us?
(11-03-2024, 11:41 PM)TDOSS Wrote: [ -> ]Cam is playing with fire tonight. The crew is showing some great footage of his play and I wonder why wasn't he playing with this type of fire with us?
There is now and never was anything wrong with Cam. We will find that out next week.
(11-03-2024, 11:41 PM)TDOSS Wrote: [ -> ]Cam is playing with fire tonight. The crew is showing some great footage of his play and I wonder why wasn't he playing with this type of fire with us?
Two franchise tags that cost him millions of dollars? A franchise that refused to commit to him long term? A scheme that didn't fit his skills? A chance to win a super bowl? A GM known to disrespect the players?
Lots of things I'd imagine.
(11-04-2024, 01:12 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (11-03-2024, 11:41 PM)TDOSS Wrote: [ -> ]Cam is playing with fire tonight. The crew is showing some great footage of his play and I wonder why wasn't he playing with this type of fire with us?
Two franchise tags that cost him millions of dollars? A franchise that refused to commit to him long term? A scheme that didn't fit his skills? A chance to win a super bowl? A GM known to disrespect the players?
Lots of things I'd imagine.
How about being a selfish sack of [BLEEP]? How does that sound? He also only has six or seven games left to get film out there to get what will more than likely be his last decent contract in the NFL.
[BLEEP] him. He put himself before the team last year and you could make the argument that due to his behavior, the suspensions, the injuries and lack of conditioning without PED's?
He's the reason Lawrence had his ankle rolled on against the Bengals last year and was the ultimate catalyst for that 8 - 3 start turning into this team's death spiral.
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(11-03-2024, 11:41 PM)TDOSS Wrote: [ -> ]Cam is playing with fire tonight. The crew is showing some great footage of his play and I wonder why wasn't he playing with this type of fire with us?
Remember when we humiliated Indy's D too?
Is there any commonality here?
(11-03-2024, 11:41 PM)TDOSS Wrote: [ -> ]Cam is playing with fire tonight. The crew is showing some great footage of his play and I wonder why wasn't he playing with this type of fire with us?
Cam always plays good against the Colts. Can't wait to see him against Allen
(11-04-2024, 10:01 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ] (11-03-2024, 11:41 PM)TDOSS Wrote: [ -> ]Cam is playing with fire tonight. The crew is showing some great footage of his play and I wonder why wasn't he playing with this type of fire with us?
Cam always plays good against the Colts. Can't wait to see him against Allen
I agree the Viking game is going to be interesting. It is rare situations like this play out. Usually the disgruntled traded player will come back, but years later. Add to that Cam is a FA this year and we will see the very best he has. Cam is not chopped liver so Allen better strap it up.
(11-04-2024, 08:04 AM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ] (11-04-2024, 01:12 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Two franchise tags that cost him millions of dollars? A franchise that refused to commit to him long term? A scheme that didn't fit his skills? A chance to win a super bowl? A GM known to disrespect the players?
Lots of things I'd imagine.
How about being a selfish sack of [BLEEP]? How does that sound? He also only has six or seven games left to get film out there to get what will more than likely be his last decent contract in the NFL.
[BLEEP] him. He put himself before the team last year and you could make the argument that due to his behavior, the suspensions, the injuries and lack of conditioning without PED's?
He's the reason Lawrence had his ankle rolled on against the Bengals last year and was the ultimate catalyst for that 8 - 3 start turning into this team's death spiral.
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Sure, I'm fine with that. I just also see from his perspective this GM goes out of his way to piss off the people in his own franchise. There was no reason to tag Robinson that way, then they gave him a short deal after that? Baalke loves to do things the hard way just to show how much power he has and that gives people like Robinson every reason to be that way right back.
(11-04-2024, 10:12 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (11-04-2024, 08:04 AM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]How about being a selfish sack of [BLEEP]? How does that sound? He also only has six or seven games left to get film out there to get what will more than likely be his last decent contract in the NFL.
[BLEEP] him. He put himself before the team last year and you could make the argument that due to his behavior, the suspensions, the injuries and lack of conditioning without PED's?
He's the reason Lawrence had his ankle rolled on against the Bengals last year and was the ultimate catalyst for that 8 - 3 start turning into this team's death spiral.
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Sure, I'm fine with that. I just also see from his perspective this GM goes out of his way to piss off the people in his own franchise. There was no reason to tag Robinson that way, then they gave him a short deal after that? Baalke loves to do things the hard way just to show how much power he has and that gives people like Robinson every reason to be that way right back.
Tagging Cam was actually a good deal for him, he got more money on the tagg. So if a player gets tagged that gives them a reason to quit on there team? Lololol Cam was given every opportunity by this franchise to be the guy. If he was playing up to his contract he would have got the start against the Pats. Cam did the team wrong not the other way around. When Cleveland went down he was asked to come in and he wouldn't play because he didn't get the start.
(11-04-2024, 08:04 AM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ] (11-04-2024, 01:12 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Two franchise tags that cost him millions of dollars? A franchise that refused to commit to him long term? A scheme that didn't fit his skills? A chance to win a super bowl? A GM known to disrespect the players?
Lots of things I'd imagine.
How about being a selfish sack of [BLEEP]? How does that sound? He also only has six or seven games left to get film out there to get what will more than likely be his last decent contract in the NFL.
[BLEEP] him. He put himself before the team last year and you could make the argument that due to his behavior, the suspensions, the injuries and lack of conditioning without PED's?
He's the reason Lawrence had his ankle rolled on against the Bengals last year and was the ultimate catalyst for that 8 - 3 start turning into this team's death spiral.
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Yup, he quit on his team. This guy was given every opportunity by this franchise and was overpaid only for him to quit on the team and play no other position.
(11-04-2024, 10:20 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ] (11-04-2024, 10:12 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Sure, I'm fine with that. I just also see from his perspective this GM goes out of his way to piss off the people in his own franchise. There was no reason to tag Robinson that way, then they gave him a short deal after that? Baalke loves to do things the hard way just to show how much power he has and that gives people like Robinson every reason to be that way right back.
Tagging Cam was actually a good deal for him, he got more money on the tagg. So if a player gets tagged that gives them a reason to quit on there team? Lololol Cam was given every opportunity by this franchise to be the guy. If he was playing up to his contract he would have got the start against the Pats. Cam did the team wrong not the other way around. When Cleveland went down he was asked to come in and he wouldn't play because he didn't get the start.
Lol, yeah, players just LOVE to get tagged instead of a long term deal or going out on the market. Geez...
(11-04-2024, 10:24 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (11-04-2024, 10:20 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]Tagging Cam was actually a good deal for him, he got more money on the tagg. So if a player gets tagged that gives them a reason to quit on there team? Lololol Cam was given every opportunity by this franchise to be the guy. If he was playing up to his contract he would have got the start against the Pats. Cam did the team wrong not the other way around. When Cleveland went down he was asked to come in and he wouldn't play because he didn't get the start.
Lol, yeah, players just LOVE to get tagged instead of a long term deal or going out on the market. Geez...
The ones that aren't worth it and get more money absolutely.
You don't think Walker Little would be happy if we tagged him? Lol
(11-04-2024, 10:26 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ] (11-04-2024, 10:24 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Lol, yeah, players just LOVE to get tagged instead of a long term deal or going out on the market. Geez...
The ones that aren't worth it and get more money absolutely.
You don't think Walker Little would be happy if we tagged him? Lol
Lol, do you think Jaavon Taylor was that much better than Robinson? Simpleton.
And I think Little is likely champing at the bit to get the hell out of here.