(12-01-2024, 05:21 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (12-01-2024, 05:21 PM)The_Franchise_QB Wrote: [ -> ]Another game for the "1 possession games" crew to say we are right there in terms of talent.
I think it's down right miraculous that these games are this close with this lack of talent.
I absolutely agree. See we actually watch the games. The crew that is on the "1 possesion games" nonsense I absolutely believe just look at the box score and come on here and talk about how competitive we are.
(12-01-2024, 05:22 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ] (12-01-2024, 05:19 PM)AnOldBrownie Wrote: [ -> ]Devon Lloyd and Cisco are my two least favorite players on defense.
Huh? Loyd has been one of our best players on D
Not saying much, unfortunately.
Also, no.
Tinhorns by -3.5 and under 44 with 43.
(12-01-2024, 05:22 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ] (12-01-2024, 05:19 PM)AnOldBrownie Wrote: [ -> ]Devon Lloyd and Cisco are my two least favorite players on defense.
Huh? Loyd has been one of our best players on D
Lloyd sucks and is quickly working his way to being a bust draft pick.
I had high hopes with him coming out of college but that was quashed pretty rapidly.
Yay we suck again
[BLEEP] the texans and that Al shai genital wart guy
(12-01-2024, 05:23 PM)The_Franchise_QB Wrote: [ -> ] (12-01-2024, 05:21 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]I think it's down right miraculous that these games are this close with this lack of talent.
I absolutely agree. See we actually watch the games. The crew that is on the "1 possesion games" nonsense I absolutely believe just look at the box score and come on here and talk about how competitive we are.
The dirty secret is Houston doesn't have much more talent than we do, they just have a true #1 receiver in Collins (maybe BTJ eventually becomes one for us, but we saw why he's not one yet on Trevor's interception) and a bit more defensive talent and discipline.
They're not contenders, just the tallest midget in the afcs.
(12-01-2024, 05:12 PM)JagFan81 Wrote: [ -> ] (12-01-2024, 05:09 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]Someone edited wiki lololol
![[Image: SGBSl.jpg]](https://s7.gifyu.com/images/SGBSl.jpg)
Apparently in Week 2 he had a late hit on Caleb Williams who was running out of bounds and swung a punch at another Bears player who took offence to thr hit.
And DeMeco Ryan's says this isn't who they are.
This guy is really bad news. He didn't appear sorry at all for the hit on Trevor and it doesn't surprise me that he did that at the Bears game. Probably several more like that. He should get the biggest fine and suspension possible.
(12-01-2024, 05:25 PM)enigma Wrote: [ -> ] (12-01-2024, 05:22 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]Huh? Loyd has been one of our best players on D
Lloyd sucks and is quickly working his way to being a bust draft pick.
I had high hopes with him coming out of college but that was quashed pretty rapidly.
I disagree, the biggest problem on D is both saftey spots and usually the corner opposite Cambell.
https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/devin-lloyd/58238
(12-01-2024, 05:21 PM)The_Franchise_QB Wrote: [ -> ]Another game for the "1 possession games" crew to say we are right there in terms of talent.
We are close, one good offseason and a real coaching staff and we will be in the playoffs next year.
(12-01-2024, 05:37 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ] (12-01-2024, 05:25 PM)enigma Wrote: [ -> ]Lloyd sucks and is quickly working his way to being a bust draft pick.
I had high hopes with him coming out of college but that was quashed pretty rapidly.
I disagree, the biggest problem on D is both saftey spots and usually the corner opposite Cambell.
https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/devin-lloyd/58238
(12-01-2024, 05:21 PM)The_Franchise_QB Wrote: [ -> ]Another game for the "1 possession games" crew to say we are right there in terms of talent.
We are close, one good offseason and a real coaching staff and we will be in the playoffs next year.
Dude, what more do you need to see to know that is not happening for years. A complete reset is needed. Did you not see the skill gap in the 52-6 game? You're brainwashed man, snap out of it.
(12-01-2024, 05:40 PM)TheDuke007 Wrote: [ -> ] (12-01-2024, 04:24 PM)The_Franchise_QB Wrote: [ -> ]All this talk about building the lines, but Little and Anton going no where. Just signed Ezra and Morse (1 year left). Cutting Scherff would be a lot of dead cap, he's staying.
I don't think help is on the way guys lol.
Little is a free agent at the end of the year. He's only back if the front office wants him back. I wouldn't be surprised if they let him go, move Harrison to left tackle and then acquire a new right tackle.
Scherff's contract is a void year next year. It's doubtful he's back. In regard to the dead cap, the Jaguars will still be $61+ million under the cap despite Scherff's dead money. Keep in mind that "dead money" is money already paid. There's no getting around it. Even if you extended Scherff, it doesn't go away. You would just be paying it later. If you have to pay it later anyway, it's no big deal to pay it now.
Morse is likely back next year, but he's a stop gap. The team could easily draft a center who would serve as depth next year and then take over the following year.
It's true Harrison and Cleveland are very likely back next season.
Little got resigned today brother. Morse is back next year. A minimum its 4/5 on the offensive line next year, and truly I can't see Scherff getting cut. I think they run it back.
However I do agree the entire line should be rehauled, it's just not happening soon.
(12-01-2024, 05:41 PM)The_Franchise_QB Wrote: [ -> ] (12-01-2024, 05:37 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]I disagree, the biggest problem on D is both saftey spots and usually the corner opposite Cambell.
https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/devin-lloyd/58238
We are close, one good offseason and a real coaching staff and we will be in the playoffs next year.
Dude, what more do you need to see to know that is not happening for years. A complete reset is needed. Did you not see the skill gap in the 52-6 game? You're brainwashed man, snap out of it.
What? A complete reset is absolutely needed. With that said, a real coaching staff and a good offseason we will be in the playoffs. I dont trust Baalke in having a good offseason. We will continue to lose and there will be a clean sweep on Black Monday. I have been saying this, pay attention.
(12-01-2024, 05:40 PM)TheDuke007 Wrote: [ -> ] (12-01-2024, 04:24 PM)The_Franchise_QB Wrote: [ -> ]All this talk about building the lines, but Little and Anton going no where. Just signed Ezra and Morse (1 year left). Cutting Scherff would be a lot of dead cap, he's staying.
I don't think help is on the way guys lol.
Little is a free agent at the end of the year. He's only back if the front office wants him back. I wouldn't be surprised if they let him go, move Harrison to left tackle and then acquire a new right tackle.
Scherff's contract is a void year next year. It's doubtful he's back. In regard to the dead cap, the Jaguars will still be $61+ million under the cap despite Scherff's dead money. Keep in mind that "dead money" is money already paid. There's no getting around it. Even if you extended Scherff, it doesn't go away. You would just be paying it later. If you have to pay it later anyway, it's no big deal to pay it now.
Morse is likely back next year, but he's a stop gap. The team could easily draft a center who would serve as depth next year and then take over the following year.
It's true Harrison and Cleveland are very likely back next season.
Little got extended man lol
(12-01-2024, 05:17 PM)AnOldBrownie Wrote: [ -> ] (12-01-2024, 05:15 PM)SeldomRite Wrote: [ -> ]Whatever Cisco does you can bet on it being wrong.
Three free agent acquisitions needed in the off season.
Starting safety, starting offensive guard, starting CB.
Glad we didn't pay Cisco.
They can do this all between free agency and the draft:
1. Cornerback: Either Travis Hunter or Will Johnson in round 1. Ideally get 1st pick (Raiders game will determine this) and trade back 2 or 3 spots for Hunter and a first next year.
2. Safety: Draft Nick Emmanwori in round 2. He looks like a stud.
3. Offensive guard: Pay Trey Smith and add a guard in round 3 (Tate Ratledge is my choice).
Obviously, there are other needs but these 3 are at the top.
(12-01-2024, 05:21 PM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ]Brown making a business decision to just float backwards untouched and not bothering to try and make a hit
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Wow...
He was the one guy other than Cisco on that play that didn't have a blocker tying him up. He and Cisco were slow to react, but I'm sure it's because the secondary has been burnt so often this year. They looked like they were second guessing themselves.
On the other hand... all three of our linebackers were tied up by blockers and didn't blow up their man. They were driven back until it was too late and Ventrell then made the tackle.
This defense is soft at the worst moments all the way back to last season. If you're relying on turnovers to make a play you'll always be late.
(12-01-2024, 05:47 PM)jaglou53 Wrote: [ -> ] (12-01-2024, 05:17 PM)AnOldBrownie Wrote: [ -> ]Three free agent acquisitions needed in the off season.
Starting safety, starting offensive guard, starting CB.
Glad we didn't pay Cisco.
They can do this all between free agency and the draft:
1. Cornerback: Either Travis Hunter or Will Johnson in round 1. Ideally get 1st pick (Raiders game will determine this) and trade back 2 or 3 spots for Hunter and a first next year.
2. Safety: Draft Nick Emmanwori in round 2. He looks like a stud.
3. Offensive guard: Pay Trey Smith and add a guard in round 3 (Tate Ratledge is my choice).
Obviously, there are other needs but these 3 are at the top.
Yup, I dont think Ratledge will be there in round 3, you will likely have to get him at 33 but thats my thoughts as well. The good thing is we will have 2 3rd round picks and 3 4th round picks so we will have ammo to move up. Trade up from the 3rd to get Emmanwori or Watts. Im putting Ratledge at center though instead of guard. We need a center and RG.
(12-01-2024, 05:45 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ] (12-01-2024, 05:41 PM)The_Franchise_QB Wrote: [ -> ]Dude, what more do you need to see to know that is not happening for years. A complete reset is needed. Did you not see the skill gap in the 52-6 game? You're brainwashed man, snap out of it.
What? A complete reset is absolutely needed. With that said, a real coaching staff and a good offseason we will be in the playoffs. I dont trust Baalke in having a good offseason. We will continue to lose and there will be a clean sweep on Black Monday. I have been saying this, pay attention.
I mean, we need almost every single starter replaced. We are expansion level bad. You're not coming in here with a new coaching staff and it changes dude. Perhaps you got them teal glasses on, but we that bad man.
Lemme know how many pro bowlers we got? You win with superstars, last I checked... the only one that CAN qualify in the future (not now) is BTJ.
(12-01-2024, 06:01 PM)The_Franchise_QB Wrote: [ -> ] (12-01-2024, 05:45 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]What? A complete reset is absolutely needed. With that said, a real coaching staff and a good offseason we will be in the playoffs. I dont trust Baalke in having a good offseason. We will continue to lose and there will be a clean sweep on Black Monday. I have been saying this, pay attention.
I mean, we need almost every single starter replaced. We are expansion level bad. You're not coming in here with a new coaching staff and it changes dude. Perhaps you got them teal glasses on, but we that bad man.
Lemme know how many pro bowlers we got? You win with superstars, last I checked... the only one that CAN qualify in the future (not now) is BTJ.
You are cluless man. You have showed you dont keep up with the league. We can come back to this next year. We will be good after Black Monday when we get the stink out.
(12-01-2024, 06:04 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ] (12-01-2024, 06:01 PM)The_Franchise_QB Wrote: [ -> ]I mean, we need almost every single starter replaced. We are expansion level bad. You're not coming in here with a new coaching staff and it changes dude. Perhaps you got them teal glasses on, but we that bad man.
Lemme know how many pro bowlers we got? You win with superstars, last I checked... the only one that CAN qualify in the future (not now) is BTJ.
You are cluless man. You have showed you dont keep up with the league. We can come back to this next year. We will be good after Black Monday when we get the stink out.
How many pro bowlers? Maybe you're not as smart as you think. Take those teal glasses off, I am trying to help you snap out of it.
(12-01-2024, 06:05 PM)The_Franchise_QB Wrote: [ -> ] (12-01-2024, 06:04 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]You are cluless man. You have showed you dont keep up with the league. We can come back to this next year. We will be good after Black Monday when we get the stink out.
How many pro bowlers? Maybe you're not as smart as you think. Take those teal glasses off, I am trying to help you snap out of it.
The Pro Bowl is a popularity contest. I dont give a [BLEEP] about the Pro Bowl. How many did we have a few years ago when we lost to the SB champs in the Divisional round?
(12-01-2024, 06:04 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ] (12-01-2024, 06:01 PM)The_Franchise_QB Wrote: [ -> ]I mean, we need almost every single starter replaced. We are expansion level bad. You're not coming in here with a new coaching staff and it changes dude. Perhaps you got them teal glasses on, but we that bad man.
Lemme know how many pro bowlers we got? You win with superstars, last I checked... the only one that CAN qualify in the future (not now) is BTJ.
You are cluless man. You have showed you dont keep up with the league. We can come back to this next year. We will be good after Black Monday when we get the stink out.
Even the worst teams have pro bowlers man. Raiders- Crosby, Giants- Lawrence, Patriots- Gonzalez. Hell, these are all pro players.
I ask you again, where is our talent?
(12-01-2024, 06:08 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ] (12-01-2024, 06:05 PM)The_Franchise_QB Wrote: [ -> ]How many pro bowlers? Maybe you're not as smart as you think. Take those teal glasses off, I am trying to help you snap out of it.
The Pro Bowl is a popularity contest. I dont give a [BLEEP] about the Pro Bowl. How many did we have a few years ago when we lost to the SB champs in the Divisional round?
It's really not, it's fans, coaches, and players who vote. You're just being stubborn.
(12-01-2024, 06:08 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ] (12-01-2024, 06:05 PM)The_Franchise_QB Wrote: [ -> ]How many pro bowlers? Maybe you're not as smart as you think. Take those teal glasses off, I am trying to help you snap out of it.
The Pro Bowl is a popularity contest. I dont give a [BLEEP] about the Pro Bowl. How many did we have a few years ago when we lost to the SB champs in the Divisional round?
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/t...roster.htm
6 pro bowlers on defense.... 2 went all pro...
Just google man..
(12-01-2024, 06:09 PM)The_Franchise_QB Wrote: [ -> ] (12-01-2024, 06:04 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]You are cluless man. You have showed you dont keep up with the league. We can come back to this next year. We will be good after Black Monday when we get the stink out.
Even the worst teams have pro bowlers man. Raiders- Crosby, Giants- Lawrence, Patriots- Gonzalez. Hell, these are all pro players.
I ask you again, where is our talent?
(12-01-2024, 06:08 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]The Pro Bowl is a popularity contest. I dont give a [BLEEP] about the Pro Bowl. How many did we have a few years ago when we lost to the SB champs in the Divisional round?
It's really not, it's fans, coaches, and players who vote. You're just being stubborn.
You dont know what you are talking about. Fans vote on who is in the Pro Bowl. To answer you question. Trevor Lawrence, Evan Engram, and Josh Allen are Pro Bowlers. BTJ, Campbell, and Oluokun are Pro Bowl type players. To early to tell with some of the younger players.
(12-01-2024, 06:14 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ] (12-01-2024, 06:09 PM)The_Franchise_QB Wrote: [ -> ]Even the worst teams have pro bowlers man. Raiders- Crosby, Giants- Lawrence, Patriots- Gonzalez. Hell, these are all pro players.
I ask you again, where is our talent?
It's really not, it's fans, coaches, and players who vote. You're just being stubborn.
You dont know what you are talking about. Fans vote on who is in the Pro Bowl. To answer you question. Trevor Lawrence, Evan Engram, and Josh Allen are Pro Bowlers. BTJ, Campbell, and Oluokun are Pro Bowl type players. To early to tell with some of the younger players.
Yeah, they aren't Also, that's not how pro bowl voting works. You really are just looking like an idiot dude.