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(12-29-2024, 03:00 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-29-2024, 02:57 PM)CanDoBetter Wrote: [ -> ]ETN should get the same excuse that others get, namely play calling.

"Offensive line"

The SAWFTIES mean the play calls where the line blocks good.

The Jaguars will Jaguar and win this game

Man the tacks [BLEEP] stink

(12-29-2024, 03:03 PM)JagFan81 Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-29-2024, 02:58 PM)SeldomRite Wrote: [ -> ]Exactly.

ETN compared with Barkley/Henry is like comparing [BLEEP] and chocolate. Even bringing the comparison up shows an inability to understand what one is seeing.

Did you read my post? I wasn't comparing Etienne to them. I was saying the RB market was seen as an easily replaceable part yet seeing guys like Barkley and Henry having such big years may make teams look again at how they are using it.

I never put Etienne with Barkleys level.

Only thing those two are showing is that they can still produce when they're on a team with a lot of other talent, which shouldn't be surprising, they're both hall of fame level guys.

Etienne doesn't have the innate physical ability those two do. It would have taken quite the situation and creative play calling for Etienne to be a hall of famer.

Etienne is just a guy who had good production in college, but isn't a carry-the-load guy in the nfl.

Let's not get anything twisted.

The Titans are phoning it in. Even if they weren't, the Jags are a better team than the Titans. Other than Derrick Henry, the Jags have been for 2 seasons.

(12-29-2024, 03:10 PM)AnOldBrownie Wrote: [ -> ]Let's not get anything twisted.

The Titans are phoning it in.  Even if they weren't, the Jags are a better team than the Titans.  Other than Derrick Henry, the Jags have been for 2 seasons.

They are truly not trying it's so obvious, NFL has to do a better way of controlling tanking.

Lolololol Doug

(12-29-2024, 03:03 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-29-2024, 02:56 PM)TheDuke007 Wrote: [ -> ]That's just false.  It's illogical to believe that owning the 7th overall pick is just as good as the 3rd overall pick.  If nothing else, you can trade down from the 3rd pick to the 7th pick and acquire additional picks.  If you don't think having additional draft picks is an advantage in the NFL, I don't know what to say.  That's just common sense.

Also keep in mind that it affects next year's schedule.  If we win, instead of playing Chicago (4-12) and Cleveland (3-12), we will play Green Bay (11-4) and Cincinnati (8-8).  You don't think one pair of teams is a little tougher than the other?

If you want to get back to the playoffs as soon as possible, a loss today helps our odds.  That's just reality.

That's false.  It's cool to have a higher pick and all but if you have the 7th pick and that is the difference between wins and losses you have the wrong GM.  There will be a very good player there at 7 or 8 and if you can't win in the league with that you shouldn't be in the league.  The 7th or 8th pick might even have a better career than that 3rd pick.  We can win this game and win next year.

You claim what I said is false, but you couldn't point out a single false statement in my post because it was 100% true.  If you surveyed every GM's in the NFL, I guarantee you that 32 out of 32 would say that they would have a better chance of improving their record in the following year with a higher draft pick and an easier schedule.  It's just common sense.

(12-29-2024, 03:08 PM)SeldomRite Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-29-2024, 03:03 PM)JagFan81 Wrote: [ -> ]Did you read my post? I wasn't comparing Etienne to them. I was saying the RB market was seen as an easily replaceable part yet seeing guys like Barkley and Henry having such big years may make teams look again at how they are using it.

I never put Etienne with Barkleys level.

Only thing those two are showing is that they can still produce when they're on a team with a lot of other talent, which shouldn't be surprising, they're both had of fame level guys.

Etienne doesn't have the innate physical ability those two do. It would have taken quite the situation and creative play calling for Etienne to be a hall of famer.

Etienne is just a guy who had good production in college, but isn't a carry-the-load guy in the nfl.

I don't think Etienne will ever be near that level. The main things he has going for him is his speed, ability to catch and can make guys miss in the open field. I don't think he's able to be your #1 RB and get 20 carries a game and you'll be fine. He can be a player that gives you favourable matchups and makes D's take him into account to open up other guys.

You initially said he's not going to get a big 2nd contract. I agree and think he's probably going to be a role player/tandem player but he does offer some skills that a good OC could utilise effectively.

The Jags are better than the Titans in talent...

But the coaching is the dumbest I've seen in a loooooooooooooooooooooooooonnnnnnnnnnnnggggg time.

Even as far back as 2022...after the Jags beat the Chargers in Los Angeles and then when 1-6 before they went on their run that year, the team on the defensive side of the field was making some DUMB mistakes. It's mind blowing.

(12-29-2024, 03:13 PM)TheDuke007 Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-29-2024, 03:03 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]That's false.  It's cool to have a higher pick and all but if you have the 7th pick and that is the difference between wins and losses you have the wrong GM.  There will be a very good player there at 7 or 8 and if you can't win in the league with that you shouldn't be in the league.  The 7th or 8th pick might even have a better career than that 3rd pick.  We can win this game and win next year.

You claim what I said is false, but you couldn't point out a single false statement in my post because it was 100% true.  If you surveyed every GM's in the NFL, I guarantee you that 32 out of 32 would say that they would have a better chance of improving their record in the following year with a higher draft pick and an easier schedule.  It's just common sense.

I disagree, I don't think 32 GMs would. I don't think 32 GMs would say you would have a better chance of improving their record if picking 3rd or 7th or 8th, if any GM would say that, they would say you just have to make the right pick regardless. Some teams pick 32nd have better drafts than the team picking 1st.  It's all about the GM.

tacks running the ball with 30 seconds left, 1 time out... down by 13?

Yeah ok... nice tank

(12-29-2024, 03:19 PM)The_Franchise_QB Wrote: [ -> ]tacks running the ball with 30 seconds left, 1 time out... down by 13?

Yeah ok... nice tank

Yup. I'm not giving the Jags defense any credit today.

(12-29-2024, 03:13 PM)TheDuke007 Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-29-2024, 03:03 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]That's false.  It's cool to have a higher pick and all but if you have the 7th pick and that is the difference between wins and losses you have the wrong GM.  There will be a very good player there at 7 or 8 and if you can't win in the league with that you shouldn't be in the league.  The 7th or 8th pick might even have a better career than that 3rd pick.  We can win this game and win next year.

You claim what I said is false, but you couldn't point out a single false statement in my post because it was 100% true.  If you surveyed every GM's in the NFL, I guarantee you that 32 out of 32 would say that they would have a better chance of improving their record in the following year with a higher draft pick and an easier schedule.  It's just common sense.

Sure, you would like to have the top pick but that shouldn't determine your record.  If it does you shouldnt be in this league.

(12-29-2024, 03:17 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-29-2024, 03:13 PM)TheDuke007 Wrote: [ -> ]You claim what I said is false, but you couldn't point out a single false statement in my post because it was 100% true.  If you surveyed every GM's in the NFL, I guarantee you that 32 out of 32 would say that they would have a better chance of improving their record in the following year with a higher draft pick and an easier schedule.  It's just common sense.

I disagree, I don't think 32 GMs would. I don't think 32 GMs would say you would have a better chance of improving their record if picking 3rd or 7th or 8th, if any GM would say that.  Some teams pick 32nd have better drafts than the team picking 1st.  It's all about the GM.

You make a good point. The good teams constantly draft near the bottom but remain good teams. Look at the Rams who barely has had any draft picks the last few years and they are the 3 seed right now.

biggest halftime lead of the year

giants winning.

Dougy P looking giddy... probably about to shoot a text to Khan to check the score

(12-29-2024, 02:28 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-29-2024, 02:24 PM)TheDuke007 Wrote: [ -> ]They've done better with high draft picks than low draft picks.  Besides, if the owner is smart, we'll have a different GM next year.

Winning this game will have zero affect on if we win next year or not.

(12-29-2024, 03:21 PM)The_Franchise_QB Wrote: [ -> ]biggest halftime lead of the year

Franchise QB?

Lol. Look how happy Doug is.

That's how low the bar has fallen for us. That's why I'm against tanking.